Any word on when we will get an Auction House?

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Originally Posted by Chezen

Cause then they are not shops that you go to.

We can all go rounds with this and no one will budge far. It's not worth bickering about further. AH might be requested, but MW are also requested. SE will have to figure it out themselves.

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So you can't replicate walking and/or zoning. Is that it?

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

So you can't replicate walking and/or zoning. Is that it?

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No, you want to take out the physically rendered shops. I want them there. How to do that with stability is not for me to work out, that's SE's job. They might decide it's not possible, they might decide they need to change it for popularity's sake, but it won't stop me from liking the MW.

/bow of all due respect to those opposed

Im cool with the wards but I wish It looked like a mall with different department stores lol. i dont like the long hallway layout

What? Yeah as if the markets wards are going anywhere after all this.... We just want an AH ADDED as well.

OP didn't ask or make a topic to start a debate about yes or no to AH, he simply asked if there is any word on it. Some people don't want it but I want it more than anything in FFXIV. But I guess it being at 11+ pages means we might get a dev post on this if there hasn't already been one.

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

OP didn't ask or make a topic to start a debate about yes or no to AH, he simply asked if there is any word on it. Some people don't want it but I want it more than anything in FFXIV. But I guess it being at 11+ pages means we might get a dev post on this if there hasn't already been one.

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The wards suck, either make them worth using or just give me an AH. I dont like zoning between all the wards. You could just leave the wards but let me buy my item from the search list even... i just like all the zoning, its extra lameness.

I'm sick of "unable to summon anymore retainer in this zone"

get rid the whole stupid market wards ASAP please

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Originally Posted by Cendres

What? Yeah as if the markets wards are going anywhere after all this.... We just want an AH ADDED as well.

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We all know they'll never get rid of the market wards because they plan to charge for every retainer you have. There's no way they're losing out on all that extra cash...

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

We all know they'll never get rid of the market wards because they plan to charge for every retainer you have. There's no way they're losing out on all that extra cash...

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Seeing as how MW was and still is one of the top complaints about this game... I'm pretty sure they're definitely losing out on all that extra cash and more.

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Originally Posted by Defmetal

We don't really need an auction house, the market wards do everything an AH does except that you have to pick up your item(s).

What does an AH do that you can't do in the wards?

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In an AH, you can sell your items wherever the fuck you want without having to pay a retarded tax. People know where to find your items because they are automatically placed in the category that makes the most sense. An auction house lists previous prices which is a great mechanism for keeping prices low. An AH doesn't require you to load sever different zones to look around.

We need a price history. If retainers can give that, then ok. Right now they cannot.

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Originally Posted by Trocien

In an AH, you can sell your items wherever the fuck you want without having to pay a retarded tax.

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I've yet to use an AH that didn't have a tax of some sort.

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Originally Posted by Trocien

People know where to find your items because they are automatically placed in the category that makes the most sense.

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Just like they currently are with the Market Wards.

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Originally Posted by Trocien

An auction house lists previous prices which is a great mechanism for keeping prices low.

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No, certain implementations do. Many don't. Most of the major MMOs don't have a price history.

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Originally Posted by Trocien

An AH doesn't require you to load sever different zones to look around.

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This it true. However, the sheer amount of whining that we see on these boards about this one point is ridiculous. Is 10 seconds really that much of a bother?

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

I've yet to use an AH that didn't have a tax of some sort.



Just like they currently are with the Market Wards.



No, certain implementations do. Many don't. Most of the major MMOs don't have a price history.



Is 10 seconds really that much of a bother?

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It's 10 seconds every time you have to move out and in of a ward for a FEW items at a time (usually one)... So yes, it's annoying.

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Originally Posted by Cendres

It's 10 seconds every time you have to move out and in of a ward for a FEW items at a time (usually one)... So yes, it's annoying.

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I've been arguing that with Dreamer for weeks, among many other MW shortcomings. Don't bother. She'll pass off your replies and/or put you on ignore, because she can't possibly grasp anything you tell her and will defend physical shops and having to walk between item purchases to the death.

I haven't read all the 22 pages but what I read in the first few really made me wonder why so many people don't see the necessity for an Auction House.
So here are some of my problems with the wards that I wouldn't have with an Auction House:

- Crashes
- Gotta search, then switch zones, then wait for the Retainers to load to buy something. Buying takes way too long.
- People sell everything everywhere. Just browsing a specific ward to find new gear won't make sense because, in my perception, over 80% sell their Marmot Pelts and Wind Shards in the god damn Battlecraft ward...
- I want to sell my thousands of crystals since a few weeks but only thinking of that horrible UI and the lag while setting up the prices frustrates me. Selling takes way too long.
- If I then finally want to do it anyway I can't because that specific ward is full. And that's my main complaint.

So if I ever will play again more than once or twice per month I need an Auction House first. Its role in such a game is just too important to me to let it be replaced by such a crappy imitation of it.

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Originally Posted by Rumo

I haven't read all the 22 pages but what I read in the first few really made me wonder why so many people don't see the necessity for an Auction House.
So here are some of my problems with the wards that I wouldn't have with an Auction House:

- Crashes
- Gotta search, then switch zones, then wait for the Retainers to load to buy something
- People sell everything everywhere. Just browsing a specific ward to find new gear won't make sense because in my perception over 80% sell their Marmot Pelts and Wind Shards in the god damn Battlegraft ward...
- I want to sell my thousands of crystals since a few weeks but only thinking of that horrible UI and the lag while setting up the prices frustrates me. Selling takes way too long.
- If I then finally want to do it anyway I can't because that specific ward is full. And that's my main complaint.

So if I ever will play again more that once or twice per month I need an Auction House first. Its role in such a game is just too important to me to let it be replaced by such a crappy imitation of it.

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dont forget your retainer has like 50 spots but you get mega taxed if you sell in the wrong area, and not only that moving your retainer from one area to another is work in its self. Trying to sell something has never been more of a pain in the ass.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

I've yet to use an AH that didn't have a tax of some sort.



Just like they currently are with the Market Wards.



No, certain implementations do. Many don't. Most of the major MMOs don't have a price history.



This it true. However, the sheer amount of whining that we see on these boards about this one point is ridiculous. Is 10 seconds really that much of a bother?

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How about in an Auction House I can sell my goods in a market ward I cant because i cant summon my retainer in ANY of the market wards in uldah.

Auction House 10000 Market ward 0

"What does an auction house do that the market wards can't"

I answer your question, with another question.

"How is the current market ward system in any way more advantageous to the auction house system say... found in FFXI? Let's focus mainly on basic functions, such as ease of use, availability, stability, convenience, etc..."

like any topic, a lot is based upon one's opinion, there are some facts difficult to ignore. The current system is not perfectly reliable, the wards have been known to crash. You often find yourself unable to place a retainer in the appropriate ward because it's reached its capacity wasting time searching numerous instances to just summon one. The UI for trading, pricing, and setting up a complete retainer ready to sell is sluggish, slow, overly complicated, and requires far more steps than should be necessary. <--- alright this last one was an opinion

Again, what about the retainer system is in any way better other than it "feeling" a little more involved, than speaking to a counter - navigating through 1 simple UI, placing or purchasing your item and calling it a day. Someone enlighten me, this is the MMO i've chosen to play in the long run, and the auction/retainer is an integral part of the system and to me right now feels like it's a big mess and maybe i'm just missing something.

Honestly nobody's wanting to tear down the MW just because we all want an AH so don't take it so personally.

There's no reason why you can't zone all day between the retainers and re-logging after being booted as you're having fun with your Rolanberry zombie-bazaar. Nobody is trying to take that way from you. While you're busy playing with endless menus and waiting for the precious 3d models to load the rest of us could just use the AH and be happy with it.


After few weeks when only the dedicated role-players do freaky stuff in the MW zones I'm sure you'll appreciate the fact that there's an AH to use for real shopping =)

I don't like the market wards at all. it gets to packed and often times you cant summon your own retainer. (sometimes)

AH is useless.

Item search can be made to do everything that AH can do, and more.

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Originally Posted by Rumo

I haven't read all the 22 pages but what I read in the first few really made me wonder why so many people don't see the necessity for an Auction House.
So here are some of my problems with the wards that I wouldn't have with an Auction House:

- Crashes
- Gotta search, then switch zones, then wait for the Retainers to load to buy something. Buying takes way too long.
- People sell everything everywhere. Just browsing a specific ward to find new gear won't make sense because, in my perception, over 80% sell their Marmot Pelts and Wind Shards in the god damn Battlecraft ward...
- I want to sell my thousands of crystals since a few weeks but only thinking of that horrible UI and the lag while setting up the prices frustrates me. Selling takes way too long.
- If I then finally want to do it anyway I can't because that specific ward is full. And that's my main complaint.

So if I ever will play again more than once or twice per month I need an Auction House first. Its role in such a game is just too important to me to let it be replaced by such a crappy imitation of it.

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This

MWs are a huge waste of time.
As a casual player i don't even bother selling stuff anymore...
"Hey, i'm gonna try and sell this Lance i bought! owait, i can't cause the ward is full! Ok, i'll just place it somewhere else...WTF is up with these taxes?!"
Plus the waiting between zones, loading reatiners, exchanging items and etc.

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Originally Posted by Rumo

I haven't read all the 22 pages but what I read in the first few really made me wonder why so many people don't see the necessity for an Auction House.
So here are some of my problems with the wards that I wouldn't have with an Auction House:

- Crashes
- Gotta search, then switch zones, then wait for the Retainers to load to buy something. Buying takes way too long.
- People sell everything everywhere. Just browsing a specific ward to find new gear won't make sense because, in my perception, over 80% sell their Marmot Pelts and Wind Shards in the god damn Battlecraft ward...
- I want to sell my thousands of crystals since a few weeks but only thinking of that horrible UI and the lag while setting up the prices frustrates me. Selling takes way too long.
- If I then finally want to do it anyway I can't because that specific ward is full. And that's my main complaint.

So if I ever will play again more than once or twice per month I need an Auction House first. Its role in such a game is just too important to me to let it be replaced by such a crappy imitation of it.

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-i aint seen a crash in over a month
-omg you actualy gotta walk around to find the retainer(which has a star over his head) so much hard work!
- Sell everything everywhere? who cares! item search buddy, you dont have to browse to find stuff
-Then sell them, the lag isnt as bad as you make it out to be unless your computer isnt up to par for this game, in which case its all on your end
-You can do it in any ward anyway and people can find you cuz of the magical item search feature, that was hard right?


when was the last time you played anyway? november, alot of what you state was an issue back then, not now

We'll get an AH as soon as TonyMontana stops necrobumping his own threads.

I wouldn't hold my breath, in other words. ;)

only thing a AH will add is item history & charge you to put stuff on auction.

MW do everything we need except we have to run to the retainer to buy stuff.

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Originally Posted by Balbanes

We'll get an AH as soon as TonyMontana stops necrobumping his own threads.

I wouldn't hold my breath, in other words. ;)

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I just do it instead of making a new thread :P

Market Wards suck. I much rather just not involve myself in the economy if I have to deal with them.

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Originally Posted by Defmetal

We don't really need an auction house, the market wards do everything an AH does except that you have to pick up your item(s).

What does an AH do that you can't do in the wards?

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You just said it. You don't need to go pick up your item. Everything is a timesink in this game we don't need more.

I want an auction house, i want price history, i want all the options an AH gives and i want to be able to bid or buyout and i want the items to go to my mailbox.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

AH is useless.

Item search can be made to do everything that AH can do, and more.

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Can an item search let me put an item up for sale without having to deal with the dumb chore of placing a retainer in a ward?

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Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme

What an auction house does is allow people to set up bots to automatically destroy the economy further, as well as sell gil for gold on the internet.

No thanks

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Oh! I get to use this again!

I think a good solution would be to eliminate the market wards area, use that area for "personal housing" since no one wants to call it a mog house. Allow us to summon and interact with our retainers in our "personal housing" and when you enter that area you have the option of going to your space or searching retainers and making a purchase that would be delivered to your housing area. The only thing I'm on the fence about is history, while extremely handy for making sure you are getting a good price, does allow for a lot more manipulation of the system and the economy.

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Originally Posted by RabidSquirrel

Can an item search let me put an item up for sale without having to deal with the dumb chore of placing a retainer in a ward?

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I don't know if anyone's said this before, but it bears repeating if it has: The wards constrict the ability to sell HQ items of high value when the wards already have 20+ sellers of the same item. There is no possible way to know that the item is being sold at all without going to each and every ward and checking all the sellers while having no guarantee that an HQ might be in there anywhere.

The wards seem to be packed full of retainers. It lags in there. I wish for a functional AH that does not cause me to lag as much.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

AH is useless.Item search can be made to do everything that AH can do, and more.

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You sound like one of those vinylist that keep whining that LPs are better then CD/DVD/DAT/MP3.

There will be an auction house...

Proof: http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...22c5f89aafed71

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Originally Posted by RahJah

The wards seem to be packed full of retainers. It lags in there. I wish for a functional AH that does not cause me to lag as much.

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This would be far less of a problem if people would just spread out and quit acting as though Ul'dah is the only place in the game you can put a retainer/do quests.

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Originally Posted by Ceons

There will be an auction house...

Proof: http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...22c5f89aafed71

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Oh dear, both the NA and JP playerbase want the same thing in the same numbers?

Isn't that one of the signs of the Apocalypse?

That survey is kind of irrelevant considering the diversity of options and the fact that people were limited in the number they could pick.. really what it says is 76% of people did not think AH was a priority..

More importantly, let it go people.. this topic will not be addressed for at least a year..

The market ward and retainer system SUCKS !!!

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