The premium app is what finally made me unsub.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

What? Since when? :confused:

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Since forever ago. Go look at old live letters where it was said.

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Originally Posted by Oriens

Mog Station sales funded EU's data center, good for them.

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Yes WE ARE GRATEFUL to have decent ping vs when we had to connect to Canada.

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Originally Posted by Oriens

What else has the Mog Station funded that directly affects me as a player in NA?
The recent server relocation away from Canada-- to now which have been the most unstable servers to-date? Nothing was this bad with server disconnects and lag in 2.0 or 3.0. The fact that 4/8 people in my static had to use VPN from the start of these new servers is ridiculous.

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I'm sorry but you make it sound 'poor me!' when EU have/had similar problem for years before we got our DC, i.e having to use VPNs and have high pings. I admit the recent connection issues have affected us too but you make it sound poor NA and screw EU got their own dc years ago.

like i said in an other thread:

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Originally Posted by Spontaner

I think it isnt the question wether the app is P2W or not,its more about what is the next step?

Remember the time were we discussed about the Mogry Shop? Everyone sayed its ok because you can only buy Event items.
Look at the MS now,we have mounts/dyes/NPC Costume(which the Devs said earlier it would never happen because uniqueness) etc... and hell people still asking for more vanity.

Now we are discussing about the app,which itself has not so much P2W aspect,but in the future it can.
Nobody back then thought that we would get an app with p2p+microtransaction,and now we are here.
So whats next SE?

They are testing the water guys,we need to stand against it.

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Originally Posted by Hestzhyen

So, disregarding the semantics argument over whether or not this app is P2W...

I stopped my sub for the same reasons as OP. This isn't Pimp My Ride, where we should be excited to see subscriptions in our subscriptions. I paid a subscription to not have to deal with extra fees and microtransactions. Is this what I get for tolerating the Mog Station's existence? The chance to throw more of my money at the company for some basic features that should have been in the game from the start? I'd rather see a flat subscription fee increase than this slimy money grubbing trying to look innocuous because it only preys on the most hard-core market board users. They even have plans to expand it already if we tolerate it, that tells you exactly what the priority is- skate through on reputation and good-will while they invest more and more into "optional" shit that costs "a small fee" with "optional micro transactions" for full functionality. I pay to play the game and enjoy the content, not for the privilege of having more crap to spend money on.

In general I feel we've been getting the same or less while development resources have gone into stuff I either hate or have to pay extra to get full use of. Quit making dumb shit and put my money and your efforts back into making the game worth subbing for, SE.

And to the people who are defending this, great for you. The rest of us do have a problem and we at least want acknowledgement that SE knows we're unhappy. Expect to see more threads like this until we get a response of some kind.

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I totally agree with this, adding my voice to say I'm unhappy with the direction SE is going in with the game.
First the Cash Shop (which was initialy to get items from past events) where you have to pay the price of a month sub to get exclusive stuff (that you can't get another way ingame by farming for example) and now this app.
If people chose to pay a sub at first it was to not have to deal with all of these microtransactions which are specific to F2P games. SE be careful with being too greedy and going too far by pressing too much the wallet of your player base or FFXIV may come back to its V.1 big fail.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

everything you listed has controversy over that .. or at very least some competition is advertising "less hidden fees" (Very big for cell phones, cable t.v., internet, banks to do), and in fact i was exploring the amzaon prime over cable thing but cable for me was cheaper soo (well idk about door dash or mafee wtf is door dash???)

for cars.. again it depends.. they accept haggling soooooooooooooo

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Controversy? it's the same thing in the end no matter how you look at it. Less fees? Have you ever really reviewed and compare bills when you shop around? Your less Fee is normally either limited time, example promotion such as free Netflix for a year or Hulu if you want to talk about fees. Not to mention Those are your phone subscription over a subscription and most people are ignorant that they don't read their terms and conditions to realize that if they don't cancel it on their own they continue to be billed on a monthly bases do to misinterpretation by the sales person. Cable cheaper than amazon? Were I live average cable package even if lowest is about $59.99 a month. That is $719.88 how is that cheaper than $99 annually? Not including taxes or on demand charges. For cars we are not talking about haggling they don't haggle services just give you a discount on purchase. Here is their response being you purchase this vehicle it comes with a free trial service of it's feature Onstar is normally 19.99 a month however you get it as a trial version for two years included, and your XM radio also with two years. -.-; and 10GB internet every month as well... No you don't they added and only people who take their time to read the contract can tell that they charged you for the service in the total price. If you catch it and call them up for it they will just lower the price of the car to avoid being sued for misinterpretation. This happened to me and they lower my price by $3500 the value plus compensation. A $36,000 came to $32500 and they threw in their premium warranty value for $3000 for 5 years or 100k miles.That is not haggling that is just being wise to scams that certain types of businesses have gotten away with and have had that reputation in both past and present. As for what is door dash? It's a food delivery app / service. What country or part of the country are you from anyways? Do you live out in the boonies?