(Suggestion) Removing the aggroe icon for monsters.

I agree with the others here. The new icons looking cool and such. But only show them if we're actually targetting the monsters, that would clear the view a lot incase you're facing like 10+ Monsters.

On the other hand, we don't need the Level numbers that desperate. If the monsters with the same lvl range stick together it's not neccasary. Only if you mix up those LV1~10 and LV30~40 mobs in ONE area that'd be needed.

Now only to fix the different mob sizes and add those little icons with the right show/hide options and we're good to go :)

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Originally Posted by Bethor

I agree with the others here. The new icons looking cool and such. But only show them if we're actually targetting the monsters, that would clear the view a lot incase you're facing like 10+ Monsters.

On the other hand, we don't need the Level numbers that desperate. If the monsters with the same lvl range stick together it's not neccasary. Only if you mix up those LV1~10 and LV30~40 mobs in ONE area that'd be needed.

Now only to fix the different mob sizes and add those little icons with the right show/hide options and we're good to go :)

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+1 for only showing level and aggressiveness upon targeting of mob.

Well the icons certainly look better than the gairish one we have at the moment! But you should just leave it with no icon for aggro/passive like FFXI.. was more fun finding out the hard way :D

I dislike seeing the level on the in world name, it takes away the grandness of exploring.

A lot.

I'm all for it being on the target window, but not on their actual names please.

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Originally Posted by Felis

I don't like image 1 and 2.
Please do all monsters like image 3 (aggo/non-aggro icon and level only if the player click on the monster)

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I love image 1 and 2, and please don't make alll monsters like image 3. (And it's not just there because the monster was clicked on).

There's no reason for this information not to be displayed, it's displayed in every other MMO out there. All it needs is a toggle option so people like you can make the game as hard on yourself as you want.

Agro Icons ok but the rank of monsters? what about Libra spell?? just an idea ^^

I quite dislike the icons.

It would be better if they were only displayed upon clicking on the monster rather than cluttering up the scenery.

I like these icons, they're not "in your face" like the initial aggro icons are. Also as devs have stated they want us to know aggro and links and adjust our battleplan accordingly. Having it visable like this might be a better idea vs. having to stop, click every mob in the area and then set up our cc's and such.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

There's no reason for this information not to be displayed, it's displayed in every other MMO out there.

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FFXI wasn't like like every other MMO.

FFXIV wasn't going to be; but it's becoming more like others as time progresses since the niche that FFXI filled has gotten far smaller. (Well, okay, they wanted to gather a wider audience this time, but they kinda failed pretty badly.)


OT: I vote for smaller, less vibrant icons. I still feel the aggro icon is out of place in the game world.

If the developers choose to add the level display to nameplates: Make a toggle option. Toggles for 1) Off. 2) Selected. 3) All.

That will please everyone.

I think the number one fault of developers is that they force changes and don't give people options. Not just with games, but with any piece of software, even operating systems. (I'm looking at you, Microsoft.)

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Originally Posted by Holland

Furthermore, I hope all of you have photographic memory if what you ask is to have to target the fiend each time to be able to see the rank. What are you going to do when were participating in Behest and the new tactical needs of the battle system requires that we fight specific mobs first and others later by going from info such as if they aggro and what rank are they? Are you going to cycle through all the mobs just to confirm which ones are the right ones to fight first?. And that is just talking about one semi large scale battle. Have you forgotten the soon to be announced grand companies?. That spells large scale battles all over the place, in my opinion of course, seeing that they are public.

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You don't need to have a photographic memory to be able to keep in mind which mobs to target first. We did not have the system display the levels nor the aggro propery for us so far and there was no problem, so why should there be a problem now?

I'm all for the display off/when targetted/always toggle option.

the icons need an option to be turned off, SEPARATE from turning names off.

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Originally Posted by JakeRoon

the icons need an option to be turned off, SEPARATE from turning names off.

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Turning names off and on needs to be seperated between player,Friendly NPC, and attackable NPC too.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

If currently we have two options:

A) Show icons on the names

B) Hide the icons completely

I'd like there to be a third option implemented:

C) Show icons only when targeting the monster.

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Fourth Option

D) Show icons and names only when targeting a monster

Seriously guys, screw that icon. It is not a good time for fixing such a details. Let SE work on some serious improvements. When FFXIV will become PLAYABLE, stable, and will get some content, we gonna start bitching on details.

If we keep discuss things like stupid aggro icons, then next few updates will bring us more "improvements" like larger monsters, larger battle effects, rank up fanfares, and all the garbage.

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Originally Posted by Chory

Seriously guys, screw that icon. It is not a good time for fixing such a details. Let SE work on some serious improvements.

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Yes, clearly the entire development team is working on this.

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Originally Posted by pwnguin

Yes, clearly the entire development team is working on this.

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Clearly not entire development team is working on important stuff.

Why not make it like final fantasy XI with no icons and add stuff like sneak, Invis and Deodorize? It seems Square is turning this into a game to make anyone hit end game and collect anything they want. I just want to see some challenges. Also some learning of the nature of the aggressiveness of the Fiends running around. That's what made some players so nice to have around in Vanadiel. Knowledge of the world should be mandatory to be a good player in a game like this.

I'd quite like them to add an "inbetween" icon too. Maybe a yellow one or something for mobs with special aggro conditions. These can be things like when someone casts a spell, when theres 2 or more of the mob together etc etc.

The fun of course would be finding out what makes it aggro...

I like the new icons, it puts the game inline with the GUI of other MMOs, and what players from them would expect. I think people need to put FFXI out of their minds when judging MMO standards, as this nostalgia is really the only reason people have an issue with this being there in the first place. FFXI had a good GUI for its time considering it had to be displayed on SD televisions, but it is inadequate by modern standards for a variety of reasons. I can recall reviews complaining of how many things in it were unintuitive for a PC game even when FFXI came out, before the modern standard was established. FFXIV should learn from more recent games for its GUI, and these icons are a decent first step in that direction.

I guess make it optional if people are going to keep complaining about it, but I foresee many issues with people in my party thinking they're not playing "easy mode" and picking a fight with an enemy that's too strong or walking by an aggroing mob in the future. God knows it happened to me a lot moving around with parties in FFXI, and it's happened a few times in XIV before they put the aggro icons in.

whoever thought the red starburst went with the style of the GUI needs a lesson in design. lol

Seriously, that thing sticks out like a sore thumb in the overall design of the GUI. Maybe thats the point, but I'd rather have a red circle or the name of the character be red. Or when you click on the character it highlights in red like the glowing that occurs when a target is recently targeted.

Just something other than that ugly starburst. :P Please?!

I just thought the icon looked kind of tacky.