Couples geting the shaft on duty roulette

All square need to do is limit it to duo queue in roulette. Honestly, I rarely get newbies in roulette. I would love to get newbies for the exp bonus when I spam dungeons on my alts, but I very rarely get it.

Also use brain lol, square obviously wont let a party of 5 use the roulette.

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

Well it looks like my hubby and I and stop payment again till 2.3.

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LOL ru serious? You're in the same room, or near each other at least. You can still talk (in person)! You don't need to be in the same instance to do that. One roulette a day and you're done, then you can queue up and do other stuff together.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

Sorry to bump this thread, but I have additional information regarding the feature that will allow players to use pre-made parties in the duty roulette. The development team is currently working on this and they plan to address this in patch 2.3.

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doesnt this defeat the purpose of duty roulette? I thought duty roulette was to help people clear content that is not being selected on a regular basis.

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Originally Posted by Daniolaut

doesnt this defeat the purpose of duty roulette? I thought duty roulette was to help people clear content that is not being selected on a regular basis.

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Maybe they're finding it's working better than expected and can take the small hit of people that would do this.

imo any couples should re-evaluate the "need" to only exp together; dungeon level syncs do a wonderful job of being still capable of partying together despite level differences. Let your more active significant other play as much as they like and it doesn't limit you playing together when you can in the slightest.

What they should really do is make it so that you cannot vote the person (or people) you entered with as MVP when you join up as a group for the Duty Finder. Also they should halve the reward for people that join as a group then join solo. Duty finder helps many people that can't make their own group finish content. There needs to be a reward for, or more a a reward for someone that joins solo.

I know for a fact if I have the option for the same reward as if joining solo in the duty finder, I will just use my friends list, party finder, or irl friends and only do content with them. There is no incentive to do anything with any random people solo anymore and that will do more hurt then good for the total player base. Yes, I could be that good person and join just because and help people out, but not everyone will do that. In a perfect world we would, but this is online, people will do the most efficient thing the most.

I wouldn't be opposed to a in-game system that say for example, knows you are with friends on friends list, linkshell mates, or people in your free company and based on that automatically give you a bonus exp, tomes, whatever. Nothing crazy, but something to promote playing with your friends and FC more often. Just not as much as a bonus for someone joining a group activity solo.

I would have to agree, the whole point of the system is to benefit solo players or people who don't mind helping others out.

This is another case of SE bending to the will of the whiners.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

I would have to agree, the whole point of the system is to benefit solo players or people who don't mind helping others out.

This is another case of SE bending to the will of the whiners.

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It's just common sense to let people queue up together for the duty roulette. As the name suggests, the purpose of the roulette is not to benefit solo players. It is to reward players for challenging the random selection of an instance. That is what a roulette is all about. It has nothing to with being solo.

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Originally Posted by Flickalado

LOL ru serious? You're in the same room, or near each other at least. You can still talk (in person)! You don't need to be in the same instance to do that. One roulette a day and you're done, then you can queue up and do other stuff together.

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I think you're underestimating the emotard population. If they aren't able to emote their undying love for their rl/in-game partner every 5 seconds it places the servers at serious risk of being submerged under a sea of indignant tears.

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Originally Posted by Dale

It's just common sense to let people queue up together for the duty roulette. As the name suggests, the purpose of the roulette is not to benefit solo players. It is to reward players for challenging the random selection of an instance. That is what a roulette is all about. It has nothing to with being solo.

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What its called is of no relevance to me, the original purpose of the system was what I mentioned above, now people are QQing and SE are bowing to the pressure (As usual).

I also play this game with my partner but we aren't that deficient in independence that we can't do things separately.

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Originally Posted by Dale

It's just common sense to let people queue up together for the duty roulette. As the name suggests, the purpose of the roulette is not to benefit solo players. It is to reward players for challenging the random selection of an instance. That is what a roulette is all about. It has nothing to with being solo.

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I'm not going to say I know exactly how the Duty Roulette system works, but it does benefit solo players. Many times I have joined as a healer or tank I have gotten much lower dungeons from people that have selected the dungeon for the first time as they needed to get it done via story or early primal fights. It doesn't always just throw everyone into a random dungeon. Sometimes you fill spots for people that queued for specific things.

I'm all for the idea of premade parties for DF roulette, but I think they should be seperate,
8 man (full party roulette) should be everything you have that is an 8 man(ofcourse limited by what everyone has unlocked)
4 man roulette should be pretty much everything you have unlocked that is 4 man including guildheists
2 man should be seperate with slightly reduced rewards

that would be 3 new categories for DF roulette

these are my opinion, I kinda feel they should have been there to start with the first 2 only giving the reward of being able to hit random dungeons/trials/raids with your friends

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Originally Posted by Feilina

Is it really a problem not to use the roulette?

You simply got one more option, the others stay as they are. When i play with two of my friends and we have two tanks/healer we can't join DF to get a random player we have to find a fourth one to be able to enter. We adapt, what is it you are doing?

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Is it a problem to miss out on MASSIVE bonuses of exp and tomes? yes obviously it is.

I am sad they pushed this back until 2.3 or later. I hope maybe they can hotfix it in sooner.

I like to play together with my bf or rl friend or sister and when I can't I sometimes do play through normal df but then progress is much slower. I don't like to be punished for wanting to play with my friends. So between choosing to play together with a small incentive as a reward or alone with a better reward most of the time I end up not playing because it's a sucky choice.

Anyway, please add this sooner! This was the thing I was looking forward to the most about this update. Very very sad it's not in :(

To be honest with you, I never considered this an issue. Me and my bf play on a daily basis with no concern on roulette. When we do roulette we just say " k, gonna do my solo ques now" and we pretty much say "ok cool" we want our bonus gil and seals, haha. We have plenty of other thing we do together. Like treasure hunting, primal runs, dungeons to tome cap. It's just one random dungeon we can't do together. Not a big deal really.

Just so I understand the argument here. The OT (and a fair bit of other players/couples) want the incentives offered to you by helping out less experienced players without actually helping anyone but themselves and there significant others/friends. And the main argument for it is that this is a social game designed to play with others, not alone (by definition of being an MMO with systems and instances designed almost specifically for group play, with many additional, but less significant, solo activities). So, if you solo the roulettes, do you not still play with others in the same social setting (the game)?

I'm actually for doing it with a friend, btw. I'm not against the idea, and I think they said they were going to add it soon in a nother update. I just think that Square was trying to accomplish something specific with the bonus rewards system, and maybe some of you guys don't get it or don't care. The competitveness of endgame DOES make it a big deal to lose out on the Roulette bonuses, which is what the incentive is. If you want to always play with your SO/friends, you always have that option. It's a choice you have to make, not so much a problem that needs fixing.

No, it's not a big deal to play one dungeon away from your significant other.

However, some of us only do one dungeon a day due to lack of interest in doing the same 10 dungeons over and over. Furthermore, if two people start separate dungeons at the same time, there is no guarantee that both will end at the same time. This isn't exactly frustrating, but it can be disheartening when the other takes 30+ minutes more to finish because of inexperienced players / quitters.

Just as you guys claim that the OP is overattached and "Can't break away from each other for one dungeon", I can call you zealots for a silly cause. Just let them play together. One way or the other, it's not going to bug you.

As an added note... I would imagine most couples play Tank/Healer. So new people queuing as DD have nothing but gain from this.

A soon as someone use the word Roulette, a huge tsunami of drama is flowing in no time.

seriously, and I include myself in saying this: Let it go guys...

Roulette will always be a huge drama magnet, it involves playing with strangers, which requires everyone to adapt to any kind of player and deal with it any way they can. Whatever how they deal with it, it's all right, even saying non-sense about roulette in these forum. As long as SE is bright enough to not take any of those seriously.

Since you can't control how strangers (or anyone) behave, there's only 1 solution to all these non-sense threads such as "stop speed run" "not a good dungeon so the tank left" "solutions to slower dungeons": The only 1 solution is to delete the DF and Roulette and use PF only.

Do you really want that?!

If that's what you want, just don't use Roulette and DF, we don't have to suffer for your little wishes.

Funny how some people see this as "You just want to screw over new players/solo players!"

Me, I see it as "-I- (and my sister, who I quest and level up with) get screwed over from the rewards."

The thing I find annoying about "having" to solo q for the roulette (We decided not to bother, for reasons bellow) is that this means not only will one of us get in quicker and possibility finish quicker, but if we also end up in different dungeons one of us could earn more trash mob exp, and that gets our exp out of whack. A minor annoyance, but still an annoyance.

And the game already forces people in a party to break party all the time while leveling as is.

I somehow doubt there is that many groups of 4 players composed of 2 dps 1 tank and 1 healer always leveling together in enough numbers to cause solo players an issue.

I'm not really sure that I agree although parts of me feel like I do. I understand that that the roulettes were made to have higher leveled classes to come in with the lower classes and help them go through DF faster, however, I also think that it is a good idea to go through a roulette together with others. It would be a fun idea! ;)

I find most of this to be quite entertaining honestly, people jumping straight to the "MMO means playing with others and you dont want to play with others? wth?" yet to be honest, it IS an MMO and these people DO want to play it with others, however they simply want to play it at their own pace with people they prefer doing stuff with. I do solo dungeons all the time with people I don't know and it doesn't bother me in the least, however there are times when I'd prefer to simply grab a few people off my flist or out of my ls/fc and just jump into roulettes and get em done and over with asap. Lets face it, DPS queue times are ridiculously long most of the time, while some of us have the option of playing other jobs, we aren't that great at them and what happens then? We get yelled at for not being the absolute best player in the world for failing at doing something because we're doing a roulette on a job we don't play as a main job. Look a bit further outside the box before coming in with close minded ideas and conclusions before completely understanding what people are trying to say.