7.3 Hopefully the end of talking to Wuk Lamat

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Originally Posted by Bitmoar

I skipped MSQ for the first time in all my time playing in 7.1, skipped 7.2, and based on Wuk's one cringe and horribly executed line in the trailer, it looks like I'm skipping 7.3 as well. Praying we're finally done with her after this patch.

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Just set your voice language to Japanese. It's far better than the English dub in both casting and direction, and not just for Wuk Lamat.

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Originally Posted by Underscore

Just set your voice language to Japanese. It's far better than the English dub in both casting and direction, and not just for Wuk Lamat.

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Alright I'll respond to this one lol. You guys seem to think that it's the VA's performance that is my problem with the story. That's about 10% of it. Lamacheese is the symptom and focal point of an awfully written story, and I'm just waiting for what's next. I'll assume we're finally pivoting when she makes her exit.

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Originally Posted by Underscore

Just set your voice language to Japanese. It's far better than the English dub in both casting and direction, and not just for Wuk Lamat.

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I set it to German. I cannot handle those ear piercingly, high pitched female voices in Japanese media. Also why I couldn't watch subbed anime and always had to watch dubbed versions.

But as to the main point of the post, I too would love Wuk to go away, but with some of the choices I have already seen this team make over the years, I have a really bad feeling that they will just double down again and try to force more of her on us just to try to prove she is a good character. But, imo, there is no saving any of the DT cast. Sphene, maaaaybeee, but I really think shes going to pull more deus ex machina, power of friendship shenanigans instead of having actual good character growth since the team seems to be moving further and further backwards in their storytelling skills as their hubris gets higher and higher.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

I set it to German. I cannot handle those ear piercingly, high pitched female voices in Japanese media. Also why I couldn't watch subbed anime and always had to watch dubbed versions.

But as to the main point of the post, I too would love Wuk to go away, but with some of the choices I have already seen this team make over the years, I have a really bad feeling that they will just double down again and try to force more of her on us just to try to prove she is a good character. But, imo, there is no saving any of the DT cast. Sphene, maaaaybeee, but I really think shes going to pull more deus ex machina, power of friendship shenanigans instead of having actual good character growth since the team seems to be moving further and further backwards in their storytelling skills as their hubris gets higher and higher.

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I think Wuk Lamat will not be in the next expansion. She might appear in the next patch with Koana and Oblivion for a meeting with the Forum at Old Sharlayan about Alexandria. But i think that will be it.

Wuk Lamat might actually be the worst decision FF14 has ever made in their long and storied history since the release of 2.0. There's gonna be youtube documentaries made for decades about this game and how she was quite literally the turning point that set this game down an irreversible path. The damage that character has caused to the integrity of the story (selling point btw) might have permanent consequences. It's actually really impressive. Speen, lissen touh me :C


If the game does somehow miraculously recover, Dawntrail will definitely be the "we don't talk about *that* expansion" of the community for the rest of time. I think even the people who grandstand about the character will quietly stop talking about her in agreement.

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Originally Posted by AngelCheese77

Agreed. It’s like players don’t want someone who has a different look on life as well as personality. Which is interesting with how many threads were made on hating Alphanaud, Zenos, zro, and tons of other characters across the years.

I enjoy Wuk Lamut. Her bright personality, innocent outlook on things, energy to help her county. Been missing that in the game.

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Admit you guys only like her because she's a female hrothgar
I admit i only like y'shtola cause she's a cat girl, you can too

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

The character is alright, they just made her overstep her role ie. scions should have said some lines instead of her, she didn't feel powerful enough to be fighting Sphene because her experience wasn't as vast as ours.

Why are we still using the FF16 excuse? FF16 was about done with development around Endwalker release or in early Endwalker, but it continues to be used as an explanation 4 years later.

Anyway, we all know SE sticks to formulas, so we can be confident that she won't be involved much from 8.0 onwards. All nation leaders end up just having cameos once in a while.

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Also FF16 entered development after HW came out. The guys working on it were doing it through Stormblood and Shadowbringers too, but no one mentions that because it doesn;t fit their agenda

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Originally Posted by All_Nonsense

Wuk Lamat might actually be the worst decision FF14 has ever made in their long and storied history since the release of 2.0. There's gonna be youtube documentaries made for decades about this game and how she was quite literally the turning point that set this game down an irreversible path. The damage that character has caused to the integrity of the story (selling point btw) might have permanent consequences. It's actually really impressive. Speen, lissen touh me :C


If the game does somehow miraculously recover, Dawntrail will definitely be the "we don't talk about *that* expansion" of the community for the rest of time. I think even the people who grandstand about the character will quietly stop talking about her in agreement.

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I wouldnt really go as far and say Wuk and the expantion have ruined the entire future of this game. We have been there already - Stormbloods story was about equally bad received but SE managed to turn it around with Shadowbringers awesome story. Lets hope they manage to in 8.0 again.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

When you suffocate the story with the presence of said character, then you are already going to give people a bad taste... Coupled with the fact the VA essentially called a community racist for not liking the song and/or not finding it an appropriate song to use when you are quite literally building an explosive train....

And the quality and consistency that you'd expect for a character that was as omnipresent, just wasn't good enough.

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Again, the quality of the voice acting in XIV was mixed , all around. Not just with Wuk. G'raha's lines sounded like he was phoning it in... Literally, as if was recorded through a telephone.

And the VA absolutely said something stupid, but that's because she's been dealing with people deliberately misgendering her or calling her 'it', I think she gets a pass or two.

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Originally Posted by All_Nonsense

Wuk Lamat might actually be the worst decision FF14 has ever made in their long and storied history since the release of 2.0. There's gonna be youtube documentaries made for decades about this game and how she was quite literally the turning point that set this game down an irreversible path. The damage that character has caused to the integrity of the story (selling point btw) might have permanent consequences. It's actually really impressive. Speen, lissen touh me :C


If the game does somehow miraculously recover, Dawntrail will definitely be the "we don't talk about *that* expansion" of the community for the rest of time. I think even the people who grandstand about the character will quietly stop talking about her in agreement.

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...the game's numbers aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. Like, they are at about the level of Shadowbringer's launch. Which is worse than it should be, but not enough to dethrone it from it's slot of "second or third most played MMO".

And if you think one mediocre expansion will kill any possibility of quality in the future... You're either being hyperbolic for clout on the internet or Final Fantasy XIV is literally the only media you interact with. There have been TV shows that recovered from a bad season, comic books that recovered form a bad run. and even MMOs that recovered from multiple bad expansions.