About damage essences in Delubrum/Dalriada

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

If you are actually spawning Skirmishes and CE's instead of sitting in camp waiting for others to do it for you, you end up drowning in Clusters which can be exchanged for the fragments you need.

I swear the Venn diagram of people who "cant" get fragments and the people who complain about slow CE spawn rates is a circle.

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Can't speak for the second half of Bozja, but in SF FATES and CEs spawned faster than I could even keep up with. Farming trash for clusters wasn't a thing I even had time to do; it would've been a pointless diversion. So, by the time I was all leveled up and running DR for my relic I had no essences by design, same as everyone else.

So, that's why no one uses essences.

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Originally Posted by Goji1639

I'm glad SE is at least sort of acknowledging the problem and taking steps to address it, but it's still stupid.

Just make essences permanent unlocks or make them guaranteed drops from the real content in Bozja. Farming clusters for what amounts to randomized loot boxes is still the kind of crap people are guaranteed to avoid.

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Personally I would have liked something like a talent tree that unlocks the abilities/damage buffs as you progress it with like increasing mettle/elemental exp/whatever costs and maybe a limit for the number of active and passive actions. It's been clear for a long time that people just don't like using consumables so having it just be something you progress from the grind I think would have been a better alternative. I'm thinking of something like the thing that was used in WoWs visions but maybe a bit more expansive.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

Personally I would have liked something like a talent tree that unlocks the abilities/damage buffs as you progress it with like increasing mettle/elemental exp/whatever costs and maybe a limit for the number of active and passive actions. It's been clear for a long time that people just don't like using consumables so having it just be something you progress from the grind I think would have been a better alternative. I'm thinking of something like the thing that was used in WoWs visions but maybe a bit more expansive.

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I think that's why they made Honors, those are once and forever.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

Personally I would have liked something like a talent tree that unlocks the abilities/damage buffs as you progress it with like increasing mettle/elemental exp/whatever costs and maybe a limit for the number of active and passive actions. It's been clear for a long time that people just don't like using consumables so having it just be something you progress from the grind I think would have been a better alternative. I'm thinking of something like the thing that was used in WoWs visions but maybe a bit more expansive.

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A skill tree that unlocks abilities/passives when you level up in Bozja would actually be great. It could have branching skill paths that people could theorycraft good Bozja builds with, and clusters could be used for things like respecing. That's something I could actually have fun with.

I'm not wasting time farming trash or money for randomized lootboxes, though, and I'm sure a lot of people feel the same.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

I think that's why they made Honors, those are once and forever.

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Probably! I think straight buffs like that are better suited for filler nodes on tree like setups though cause they're kind of boring on their own. That being said it is a step in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by hobostew

Probably! I think straight buffs like that are better suited for filler nodes on tree like setups though cause they're kind of boring on their own. That being said it is a step in the right direction.

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I mean, honestly I agree with you, I straight up hate anything consumable in any mmo, and I "grew up" with mmos where consumables are either potions for solo levelling or something bad players use to make up for their lack of skills. In this game they're seen as a must in endgame but luckily I don't raid, having so many of them being pretty much a must for anything Bozja just kills me. Your solution would be awesome tbh.

There is always killing the Bozjan Matamatas around the middle of lowest zone. Those give guaranteed Skill fragments, which appraise into the basic but always useful essences.

That will get you a lot of DPS essences for tanks and healers. I get the desire to always have Skirmisher as DPS, but Platebearer is not bad.

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Originally Posted by Nothv13

Oh yay, mindless mob farm. If I wanted to do that I'd just play BDO.

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It also spawns CE. Remember the CE you joined? Spawned by someone else.
On top of that, you can solo farm groups with lifesteal potions and actions, another reason to pop essence.

Get 7 people ready to farm different spots and it'll go extremely fast.
We farmed an hour, a single hour over the 30+ free hours we get each week. And it was enough to be stocked on Lost action and makes gils to buy more essence. And we also spawned some CEs.

I kinda understand why people are against consumables. But if it was actions alone, many people would not use those either.
Creating a tree skill that only exist for such instances would be a cool idea thought.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

Fun fact, we made a neat amount of gils by selling those. I simply don't know why someone is buying it, but what grinds my gear is people keeping actions and opening clusters they will never use.

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People buy them because it's a super cheap way, they sell for 36 gil right now on my server, to get the +haste earring quickly.

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

It also spawns CE. Remember the CE you joined? Spawned by someone else.
On top of that, you can solo farm groups with lifesteal potions and actions, another reason to pop essence.

Get 7 people ready to farm different spots and it'll go extremely fast.
We farmed an hour, a single hour over the 30+ free hours we get each week. And it was enough to be stocked on Lost action and makes gils to buy more essence. And we also spawned some CEs.

I kinda understand why people are against consumables. But if it was actions alone, many people would not use those either.
Creating a tree skill that only exist for such instances would be a cool idea thought.

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In Southern Front never had time to mindlessly farm, just constantly fates and CE all the time even in instances with no one farming fragments or clusters. Again, I'll point out that I do use essences, but my personal use of them is largely irrelevant to how fast DR goes, I've also never had a lot of relevant essences and lost actions despite spending most my time in Bozja (most of my current were purchased). I am in no way going to condemn someone for not farming them up or not spending gil to get them just for one single instance.