Relic weapons for Stormblood?

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

If the relic is being delayed to 4.2, this will mark the first time that there has not been a relic weapon competitor to the raid weapon. Am disappoint.

If they do start the relic so late in the cycle, I hope they tone down the grind for the initial stages to compensate.

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They always introduce the relic a patch too late. And nothing ever competes with the savage raid weapon. It's a pathetic grind for a glamour item.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

They always introduce the relic a patch too late. And nothing ever competes with the savage raid weapon. It's a pathetic grind for a glamour item.

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in 2.x the relic was a more usefull weapon. when 2.4 hits for example there was the i110 weapon from 24-man raid, i115 relic, i115 top-tier raid weapon. new introduced were the i110 ex primal weapon, i120 raid weapon, i130 raid weapon (the upgraded i120) and the i135 top-tier raid weapon. so for early progression there was simply no better weapon than the relic and the next better weapon was locked behind the raid, until they introduced the upgraded ex-primal weapons (wich were i115) and give away the i120 in the odd-numbered patch. but at this point the relic was already i125.

in 3.x they changed it so you can get a better weapon through ex primals as soon as the ptach hits, and a few weeks later the weapon from the casual raid, wich left the relic in the dust.

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Originally Posted by Ketsufuma

Relics will always be a grind was that way in XI was that way in ARR nnd HW why do you think it would change? :P

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You are correct , however they were very different animals. Relics in XI were game changers. When a Samurai suddenly doubles his weapon skill damage and multiplies his weapon skill per minute exponentially it makes him pretty epic compared to everyone else , or in the case of DRK dps is off the charts and they become nearly unkillable. In ARR relics were the best weapons at many points , but Yoshi pretty much said he didn't like that and made them second class to raid weapons in most cases moving into HW. This wouldn't be a problem except it took more effort and time to construct an inferior weapon that was literally labeled for casuals. Doesn't that seem backwards? It may not change , but I for one hope it does.

Come on SE at least release some stages with every patch. It really is a pain waiting for relics and some of us love doing them. That or give us a hint if we need to collect items and such -.- so we can start gathering them.

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Originally Posted by Sebias

Has SE established when they are planning on implementing the new relics?

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pushed back to 4.2, Eureka is the new thing for the relic, eureka got pushed back to 4.2.

I agree that 2.X Relic was more useful but by the end of the final (or final stages) it was very much not worth it. Heavansward had come along and dungeon weapons that dropped were better then Relic..
Raiders also do Relic, so really it should have been introduced by now. Plus for all those that want Relics on all jobs which is time consuming..

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

If they do start the relic so late in the cycle, I hope they tone down the grind for the initial stages to compensate.

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I hope they don't pull a 3.0 and give you a weapon that's extremely low ilevel compared to what you currently are using. Grinds are one thing, but grinding just to get the thing to not be 20 or 30 item levels worse than your current weapon is kind of garbage.

I really don’t get where people get the idea that the relic is terrible from.

The Alexandrian metal spear was godawful compared to the final stage relic it had skillspeed ffs. Even for those obsessed with ilvl over stat allocation the ilvl of the lux was the same as that of the Alex savage pile of junk

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Originally Posted by Kathalian

I really don’t get where people get the idea that the relic is terrible from.

The Alexandrian metal spear was godawful compared to the final stage relic it had skillspeed ffs. Even for those obsessed with ilvl over stat allocation the ilvl of the lux was the same as that of the Alex savage pile of junk

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When you had your 275 from raid in 3.41, even before being able to buy the i260 with tomestone and obtain the upgrade item to up it to i270 (1 month before the release of the relic quest for the i260!), you didn't really had any choice.

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Originally Posted by Jeycht

When you had your 275 from raid in 3.41 (1 month before the release of the relic quest for the i260!), you don't really had any choice.

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That does nothing to change the fact the relic isn’t the budget piece of junk people seem to oft claim