Need help between war and pld

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

random gibberish that the OP thinks relates to the points i've made but doesn't...like doesn't at all

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LMAO what are you even on about?????

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

1) They are superior in the OT slot because they bring the Storm combos. Storm combos don't stack with eachother, so bringing multiple doesn't help.
1b) WAR would have more chances to shine in the MT slot, but both PLD and DRK lack the same utility WAR does in the OT slot. they both need to be getting hit, where WAR doesn not.

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LOL i literally explained in my first post on this thread why warrior excels, never ever did i say warriors should be MT whilst tanking along side the other two. since you can't be bothered to read what i posted, i'll post it for you:

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Originally Posted by Venoshock

...-Cooldowns are sufficient for current content so main tanking as warrior isn't an issue in terms of defense(the reason why people don't like warrior main tanking is because it gains most of it's dps in the off tank position where it is free to use it's defensive CDs for more fell cleaves)...

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Originally Posted by Venoshock

I never said you should make warrior MT. i said warrior would make a better main tank than paladin would in magical damage fights like A12S if we're talking about mitigating magical damage over an extended amount of time. So you missed the point I made. It's cool though, it happens when you don't actually read things properly.

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

2) stacking classes limits the speed the Limit Break bar fills. Stacking Classes isn't worth it in most cases, if it can be avoided.

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Please, Pleeeease tell me where i said or even implied stacking classes was a good idea?????

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

3) WARs precious "best DPS" doesn't apply to the MT role, that "honor" actually goes to DRK.

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Again where did i say warrior excelled offensively especially over DRK - A class that I main and know a hefty amount about - in the Main tank position???????? do you even read my posts or just pulling things out of....thin air???

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

4) WARs cooldowns, specifically Inner Beast, require precision for fights that the other 2 don't require. a higher skill requirement for the same result isn't exactly desirable. To elaborate, Inner Beast blocks 1 thing: the tank buster. Rampart blocks the tank buster, the auto after, and the mechanic after that.
This could actually help WAR fill the MT slot better with the cross-class overhaul we are getting

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what??? precision?? yeah obviously you'd know when to use it if you knew the fight at all, it' somthing you use on tank busters and because of how choreographed this game is you should know when tank busters are about to happen so again, it isn't an issue all.

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

Shock and surprise, MT and OT choices goes a little deeper than just "damage" or "cooldowns". Hallowed ground is an amazing cooldown, but you don't use it pre-pull, and you dont stack it with rampart.

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whaa......??? are you trying to refute something i said or what??? of course party composition is more deeper than MT and OT damage and CDs. when did i ever make the point otherwise?? when did i ever say hallowed isn't amazing? when did i say you should use it prepull? what?????

WHAT????? LOL Do you people even have any comprehensive skills at all????? you're making arguments against points nobody ever made. please stop embarrassing yourself, it's time to stop.

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

It's pretty hilarious how "the best tanks" are so easily tanked.

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well they have a dartboard in they soulstone right now so is pretty understandable anything about this can make it angry if they dont catch it at the first try, is you say WAR and NERF together they go to come to release fell cleaves like crazy.

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Originally Posted by CafPow

So ... did i miss a Patch?
Storm combos are not available anymore when MT-ing?

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i think he is meaning the capacity to keep both storms effects and high DPS at the same time, that huge extra DPS WARs have in OT can be call utility in some way bcs are a thing that the other 2 cant achievement.

Any tank is capable of tanking any content. It is designed that way for a reason. As such, groups choose thier tank on the only meaningful metric left to them. The highest dps combo is DRK/WAR. It doesn't matter if they buff paladins defensive abilities in SB, as long as they are behind DRK in dps due to the easy class tax. I would level war first, as you have already lvled drk, paladin is just going to feel like a boring version of it.

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Originally Posted by shao32

i think he is meaning the capacity to keep both storms effects and high DPS at the same time, that huge extra DPS WARs have in OT can be call utility in some way bcs are a thing that the other 2 cant achievement.

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maybe but it would not be the "most DPS Rotation" theoretically.
Only Storm-Debuff that gives 10% more Slashingdamage, the other one is a good support but does the least DMG of all Combos and doesn't increase anything ^^

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Originally Posted by CafPow

maybe but it would not be the "most DPS Rotation" theoretically.
Only Storm-Debuff that gives 10% more Slashingdamage, the other one is a good support but does the least DMG of all Combos and doesn't increase anything ^^

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No is not, but pay that 40 that extra potency per combo for better MT hate control and raíd mitigation to help healers to have better Windows to do DPS is far better in my opinion.
Using butche combo can be a problem at the end reducing raid DPS is forcé MT yo dealt more agro combos

yeah sure, considering all, it is better.

i was just referring to potency but it's not just all about potency so you're correct ^^

I can feel my brain cells dying from some of these posts.

Level both.

They all share gear at 60 anyways so have some fun and figure out what you like more, if you get into raiding before SB roles around find out what your group needs and help fill that role.

I dont care what pros and cons are and some people call us delusional pld. Like hold it:)
But i enjoy pld bcuse its tanky, fun and sheltron is bae with its proc. and who doesnt love their last anima Lux wep...

Play Pali cause honestly it's the greatest feeling when people see you and go ''ugh Paladin'' and then you beat half the DPS there in dps. Kinda loses it's magic on WAR given WAR is literally just a DPS with provoke

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Originally Posted by LilLemay

Play Pali cause honestly it's the greatest feeling when people see you and go ''ugh Paladin'' and then you beat half the DPS there in dps. Kinda loses it's magic on WAR given WAR is literally just a DPS with provoke

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WAR is literally just dps that can have over 50k HP, tons of mitigation, insane aggro generation, AND a provoke. Do you stop to think before saying something stupid? Honestly, if your dps is beating "half the dps," you're playing with baddies.