So... you've completed Coil 2 Savage without relying on undersized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis
You've done every single Beastman Daily quest and obtained all obtainable Tripple Triad Cards.
You've got max rank racing chocobo (That usually takes three generations of chocobos, wow! You're quite the breeder!) And collected all the Elemental Ponies with Kirin to top them all. With a level 30 normal chocobo.
You've defeated every dungeon released in the game and obtained their glamour items by only running Minimum Level Sync.
You're PvP Rank 50 strategic mastermind with 1000 wins listed under your belt (As a Maelstrom! Wow you're the only one in the game with it!)
Oh, and you've also Cleared Alexander Savage. SE just must have missed your greatness - it's understandable, they were looking for parties that achieved it, you did it solo.
Listen,
I've played my share of 'a few' MMOs. And I've met more than my fair share of your kind. Tooting your horn on how everything's too easy for you and how every patch is duller than the last - that there's nothing to do and nothing to work for. When that's a blatant lie. There's plenty of stuff to do to pass the time, plenty of achievements and goals to work for. The fact that your disinterested in it all is not the fault of the developer. They're appealing to sensibilities you don't have. Perhaps if you broadened your perspective you might be able to see beyond that narrow little scope of 'worthwhile' goals to work for and actually play a wider part of the game - instead of try-harding to be elite in a game that, by the numbers, couldn't really care less.
Void Ark 24 member raid for 3.1
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08-23-2015, 03:24 AMHyrist
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08-23-2015, 03:58 AMWhocareswhatmynameisyou'll keep pointing to savage, which is literally like 2% of the game and say "why aren't you satisfied?!?" All the while sub numbers keep dropping!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyrist
And you would be surprised how much of that content I have done. Not to mention beastman quests?!? nerfed! They doubled the allowances. Triple triad, god knows people have tried to nerf that too! Relic quest? Nerfed multiple times. Raids?!? All steamrolled!
If making this game piss easy is the key to success, how come we only got 300K subs?!? Embarrassing, FFXI had 200K subs, before MMOs were even popular! -
08-23-2015, 04:14 AMHyrist
... Where are you basing your data? Alexander clears?
The people who are actually researching the acivity of characters on the game. Gave a numer approximating 820k active subscribers, higher than the 730k active subs that were made in his previous research compiling. And, given his criteria, his numbers are typically viewed as low estimates. By the way, this was 4 days ago.
We're not losing subs, we're gaining. Good going on the research and source citing there.
Oh, and if we're talking active subscriptions from FFXI? It had 550k average and only about 30% of it ever cleared its Chains of Promythia story-line after it was four years old. Just a little bit more for its FIRST expansion, Rise of the Zilart, in its first year.
So for 190k of 820k active subscribers managed to complete Alexander normal inside its first two months, SE's got a good pace going. The rest of the players, by the level average, aren't even to the point where they've cleared Heavensward yet. -
08-23-2015, 04:44 AMWhocareswhatmynameisI won't argue the numbers because SE hasn't released them. But I'm skeptical 75% of active subs have yet to reach ALex normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyrist
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08-23-2015, 05:06 AMHyristHuh, that's a switch, considering in your last post you tried cramming a 300k number down my throat and professing that FFXI did better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis
Anyways, the Average Level Info graph SE released last night disagrees with you.
http://i.imgur.com/SRZlg8B.png
Our average level across all characters above level 6, is level 27-28.
Looking at the rest of the information provided to us, you can see that with the same criteria, only about 11% on average of all Disciples. And keep in mind, in order to access endgame, you have to be level 60.
Now remember, SE's criteria is less restrictive than my previous source, so the percentages of active players in that infographic is debatable. But the one thing that my source does not account for usually is players who become inactive during lul periods and fall out of the criteria.
So between those who sub on and off and those who are consistently active, but not interested in 8 man raiding? Yes, I would say that 190k out of 820k is a good percentage number. You have to understand that the majority population of this game identifies itself as casual - and even storyline raiding right now still seems like hardcore content to them. We're only 2 months into Heavensward and a lot of people play at a slower pace than the frontline of players that participate in progression content.
Why do you think old content got nerfed so hard? Because there's a flood of players that won't touch the thing, let alone clear it, under normal circumstances. They don't want to deal with the stress and annoyance that Raiding provides. And as people get to level 60 more, in terms of averages, we'll be seeing those completion numbers, probably spiking after 3.3 when the fights can be crushed soundly with item levels.
And what do all those people who don't participate in endgame occupy themselves with? That silly little bits of content you've been dismissing and ignoring. This is why content like Verminion and the Beginner's Hall, and Housing, and casual content like the Dungeons and the 24 man content become relevant.
There is a serious difference between merely participating in MMOs for years, and actively going out of your way to understand the genre and business field.
The numbers do not agree with you here. Sorry. Maybe you'll think about doing some in depth research before you hyperbole some random integers. -
08-23-2015, 05:15 AMTruebladeNukeWell lets see here...Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwinLi
Name calling.
Tanks ignoring their main duty and allowing adds to run all over the place.
Tanks fighting for aggro on that one enemy.
Tanks throwing out provokes on that said same enemy when not needed at all, trying to rip aggro off each other.
More name calling and insults.
Healers begging for the Tanks to actually do their job.
Rage quits.
More rage quits.
People now pulling bosses outside the boss room and trying to get people hit with their AoEs.
Healers only DPSing.
DPS not killing the things that need to die first.
Healers that aren't part of the main tanks alliance not even bothering to heal the main tank, let alone at least throw a regen on him/her.
People complaining about every little detail about the new 24 man raid here on the forum (like with everything else that gets tossed into the game) along with telling horror stories about the parties they've had in the place.
Basically, the whole Crystal Tower all over again. ... ... oh sorry, you probably wanted me to speculate something positive. :O -
08-23-2015, 05:16 AMWhocareswhatmynameisAnd what does that chart prove? Nothing, the point is their "census" described all kinds of stats except one thing, Sub numbers. Almost like they are hiding something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyrist
Kinda like Microsoft's famous we sold 5 million xbox's.... to retailers.
Having your avg job levels go up like 1 or 2 from 2014 (max level 50) and 2015 (max level 60) isn't encouraging! You would think in a year's time people would have leveled up a bunch of stuff, unless they quit subbing or something!
But again, i won't argue the numbers. You think we got almost 1M and i think it's much lower. There are no official release on sub numbers so whatever.... -
08-23-2015, 05:22 AMHyristThere's a term for denying evidence provided to someone - it's called willful ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis
We already have an idea of sales numbers released by SE.
We already have an independent source of determining active subscriptions.
And SE already provided hard numbers as to the highest end Raiding content.
Your circular straw-man arguing about ignoring evidence not provided by SE, then flat out discrediting SE for not providing the information you want that's already provided elsewhere, takes the floor out of your argument and your perspective. You have nothing but conjectures and conspiracy theories, which falls into the behaviors of the stereotype that I pegged you as.
Yet, you presume to look down upon the content, and the players who struggle with it.
The person who is out of sorts here, is you. Perhaps you may want to spend some time exploring that fact. -
08-23-2015, 05:22 AMZeno-Ira
Didn't see anyone posting it, but this should be the inside of the ark?
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08-23-2015, 09:58 AMPandaPauseHard to believe you can reach your KB and type all that out from the pedestal you're on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyrist
Will I literally be soul crushed? no
Was it friendly banter about the inevitable re-skin that SE has shown us over and over again? yes.
But just in case I find myself in a pit of despair and severe depression I'll heed your advice.