Cerberus DPS Method - It Needs To Be Said. . .

Like any other raid, most times it works perfectly and 10% of the time you get some special people and it falls to crap.

All times i do wod now people always say all dps in belly. If i am B group i go in otherwise usually stay out and defeat wolfsbanes. People can do how they want but my goodness people going in as 1 group is by no means hard to dps everything down quickly

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Originally Posted by Sousoulsu

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I'm going to save myself some time and reiterate a few of the more important points that may have been missed or glossed over, perhaps in the attempt to defame me:

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

First off, I'm well aware that it works. That isn't up to debate here, so please don't.

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If it takes 15 DPS to do what is easily a 5 man job, we have much bigger problems.

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The key aspect is both having good DPS and EVERYONE doing their part when inside, of course.

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And because it's that important, I'll quote it again:

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

The key aspect is both having good DPS and EVERYONE doing their part when inside, of course.

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Naturally, the same would apply to anyone outside as well.

Watching wolfbanes never die as they eat my / the healer's face is the reason the all-dps method needs to get booted in the face.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I'm going to save myself some time and reiterate a few of the more important points that may have been missed or glossed over, perhaps in the attempt to defame me:







And because it's that important, I'll quote it again:


Naturally, the same would apply to anyone outside as well.

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If you're not open to discussion and feel you've covered all there is to say on the subject in the OP ... Then why did you post? :>
You're oversensitive to people trying to "defame" you.

The fact is that both methods work, and it's not tuned tightly. There is no point to discussion. I've never seen a wipe in 45 WoD runs, now.

You took time, days later to reply to this. . . I'm starting to feel special.

Yes, both methods work, neither really seems faster even if everyone does their part, and no, it's really not such a tightly tuned fight that it demands a tried-and-true method.

There was never really a discussion to be had (though, in fairness, I do respect and appreciate the input given by others here, even you). That's why the title said "It Needs to Be Said", not "It Needs to Be Discussed". Needed to be said, and I said it.

/victoryfanfare

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

There was never really a discussion to be had (though, in fairness, I do respect and appreciate the input given by others here, even you). That's why the title said "It Needs to Be Said", not "It Needs to Be Discussed". Needed to be said, and I said it.

/victoryfanfare

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But if there was no discussion to be had then what was the point of the post in the first place? .......and why was it something that "needs to be said" at all? I'm just not sure I understand the point of the thread's creation, was it supposed to remain as a single post for people to just read and nod their heads? I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I'm genuinely curious what the goal was.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

You took time, days later to reply to this. . . I'm starting to feel special.

Yes, both methods work, neither really seems faster even if everyone does their part, and no, it's really not such a tightly tuned fight that it demands a tried-and-true method.

There was never really a discussion to be had (though, in fairness, I do respect and appreciate the input given by others here, even you). That's why the title said "It Needs to Be Said", not "It Needs to Be Discussed". Needed to be said, and I said it.

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Why did it need to be said though? And, Okay, you said it. So... Why are you still checking this thread?
It just seems like you're fishing for attention.
Not that it's a big deal or anything; it's just that you seem to misunderstand the point of a forum.

When you post, try asking yourself this question: "What am I trying to say with this post?" And if the answer is "I'm just trying to get people to pay attention to me", then you might want to rethink posting, unless you take odd enjoyment in coming off as needy and self-important.

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/victoryfanfare

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"Pigeon Chess: it poops on the board, knocks over the pieces, then struts around as though it won."


Anyway, more on the subject:
All-DPS-in can only ever be a problem if healers are incapable of healing tanks who have Wolfbanes, for some reason. Since I almost always heal in WoD, it's pretty obvious I wouldn't see this as a problem in my runs. I can see it being an issue in runs with braindead healers though.

Alright then, how about this:

Maybe I said it to provoke thought (and almost as a natural effect, discussion) on the subject rather than players just assuming one method will be used over another. OR perhaps learning a method to be faster/better when it may or may not be. OR perhaps to challenge the idea alone, again to provoke thought on the subject, therefore possibly finding areas to improve upon either given method.

I mean, hey, it beats bickering for a minute or two about what to do before a pull, or worse, staying silent and assuming everyone's going to decide on the "right" method.

The /victoryfanfare was sarcasm, mainly due to irritation. I apologize if that perhaps wasn't clear.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Alright then, how about this:

Maybe I said it to provoke thought (and almost as a natural effect, discussion) on the subject rather than players just assuming one method will be used over another. OR perhaps learning a method to be faster/better when it may or may not be. OR perhaps to challenge the idea alone, again to provoke thought on the subject, therefore possibly finding areas to improve upon either given method.

I mean, hey, it beats bickering for a minute or two about what to do before a pull, or worse, staying silent and assuming everyone's going to decide on the "right" method.

The /victoryfanfare was sarcasm, mainly due to irritation. I apologize if that perhaps wasn't clear.

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It's unfortunate that it takes me pointing out your lack of civility so bluntly in order for you to regain it.

So, you're not sure why you said it, you only have a "Maybe I posted it because XYZ"?
When I do WoD, people just wordlessly do what they want. I have yet to see a fail. Fails obviously happen, but they seem so rare that I haven't seen one in 45 runs. My friends seem to share that experience. So I'm left to assume that this issue is a fabricated one.

I stand by my assertion that you simply like to draw as much attention to yourself as you can. Everything about the way you post reflects that sentiment.