Stoneskin II

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Originally Posted by Parodine

As a WHM main, I don't want AoE stoneskin during battle. Too overpowered.

Pre-enagement only prz.

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As a WHM I would love having an aoe ss that could be cast occasionally... Clearly there would have to be limitations... Just as there used to be when it was in the game. Go read up on what the game used to be..

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Originally Posted by KrissKringle

It is the only ability/spell in the game that cannot be used by its main job/class in battle.

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Originally Posted by Keisatsu

You forgot Swiftsong.

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And Hidden.

OMG people can complain about anything.

A QoL spell was asked for by players that are banging their heads, trying to learn the raid, and wiping repeatedly - which the OP doesn't seem to raid much according to achievements

18% SS during battle would feel a bit too powerful unless it has insanely high MP cost- learn to dodge man.

and LOL swift song doesn't give combat advantage - it allows you to dodge shit easier if you can move faster, and it's a good thing that it isn't allowed in combat

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Originally Posted by RegnumMagik

I made basically one assumption, the other ones are my supporting factors. Now, how is this a rant? I'm simply helping.

Now I understand who the real troll is.

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You are, please stop. Nobody wants a naysayer simply for the effort of naysaying.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

And Hidden.

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Derp..forgot about Hide and I second Ninja.

Oh and if you'll complain about Stoneskin II, complain about Hide too please, it breaks on engagement when it should really break when you use a skill >:C

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

And Hidden.

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Too late, scroll back up and you will see I replied to that already. Swiftsong has nothing to do with battle, stoneskin does. Your argument is bunk.

SINGLE TARGET STONESKIN:
3sec (Cast time) X 8 (players in a full party) X 9001 (wipes) = 60 hours of casting stoneskin on the whole party.

STONESKIN II:
7 hours 30min.

EDIT: Also stoneskin should only be cast during battle to prevent death. (drgs and their ridiculously low magic defensse) Not to mitigate 18% health in raid damage. Doing the latter is a good way to go to MP 0.

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Originally Posted by KrissKringle

You are, please stop. Nobody wants a naysayer simply for the effort of naysaying.

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Ironically, you're the one naysaying this one QoL skill for WHMs.

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Originally Posted by KrissKringle

It is the only ability/spell in the game that cannot be used by its main job/class in battle. That is a design flaw.

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No it isn't. Bards can't use Swiftsong in battle and Ninjas can't hide. >.>

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Originally Posted by KrissKringle

Too late, scroll back up and you will see I replied to that already. Swiftsong has nothing to do with battle, stoneskin does. Your argument is bunk.

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I can think of a lot of situations where faster movement in a fight would be advantageous.

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Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Derp..forgot about Hide and I second Ninja.

Oh and if you'll complain about Stoneskin II, complain about Hide too please, it breaks on engagement when it should really break when you use a skill >:C

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Hide can be used in battle. Have you ever played ninja?