Eternal Bond - Standard Plan and Gold Plan

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Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion

I disagree. Adding a mount to the free version defeats the purpose of people truly enjoying each other's company. If I could get a mount for free by marrying my friend, so be it. People would ask. "Aw are you two married?" 99% of the responses would be, "Naw, just wanted the free mount lol."

I welcome the cash shop addition for the actual Eternal Bonding benefits. It makes more sense, and it makes it actually mean something like in FFXI.

In FFXI you had to apply for a Wedding, and a GM would personally lock people out of an area to hold your wedding. You had to wait months for the process to be completed, and it felt like a personal party.

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I actually would end up marrying my real life husband so it would mean something to me.


But keep in mind this is a GAME (that we pay for). People play this to have FUN. If someone wanted to marry a friend just for a mount, who are you to judge they can't because it's not "special"? The 2-person mount should be in the free version.

And this is not FF11.

And there are ways for them to make it special without having people pay up for a functional item.

Business making money.

Seems legit. ^.^

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Originally Posted by Squintina

I actually would end up marrying my real life husband so it would mean something to me.

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Well then you out of most of the Eternal-Bond Advocates should know more than anyone else what it should mean. If the mount was in the free version, the Marriage System would be sullied be people having Fake-Marriages for content.

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Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion

Well then you out of most of the Eternal-Bond Advocates should know more than anyone else what it should mean. If the mount was in the free version, the Marriage System would be sullied be people having Fake-Marriages for content.

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Because in real life marriage would never be used for something silly like citizenship or taxes... >_>"

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Originally Posted by Jamez82

Business making money.

Seems legit. ^.^

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Uh ok, sry i thought everybody paid for this every month.

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Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion

I disagree. Adding a mount to the free version defeats the purpose of people truly enjoying each other's company. If I could get a mount for free by marrying my friend, so be it. People would ask. "Aw are you two married?" 99% of the responses would be, "Naw, just wanted the free mount lol."

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Adding loot to raids defeats the purpose of people truly enjoying raiding together. If I could get loot by raiding, so be it. People would ask. "Aw do you like raiding?"
99% of the responses would be, "Naw, just wanted the loot lol."

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Originally Posted by AggieRick

This is hardly "gateing content" the event is freely available. The 2 person mount is a luxury for now you either pay for it or wait for them to release a free one.

Comparing this to pay to raid is extreme and alarmist. If it came to that yes I would complain so would anyone else but this is just more glamour.

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Umm...it's not just the Mount with the Gold Package. More of like Better version of Tuxedo, Dress, a Mount, and Cake!

Now who gonna want to pay for the Free version with uglier Tux and Dress, no Mount, and no Cake? This stuff should already be freely available in the game since it a P2P game, not a F2P game. If you keep thinking this is ok, next they will be more ridiculous cash shop available. Sure, it not Pay to Win, but it does make the game less enjoyable and more annoying to play.

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Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion

Well then you out of most of the Eternal-Bond Advocates should know more than anyone else what it should mean. If the mount was in the free version, the Marriage System would be sullied be people having Fake-Marriages for content.

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Well that's up to them though, if people want to play the game that way they should be entitled to. I was going to marry/bond with my long-term partner of 10years irl, but the in-game thing wasn't really going to mean dick to either of us >_> it was just supposed to be content that was included in the game we paid for/are paying for....

Gating shit behind the cash shop 'so it means more?' No thank you >.<

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Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion

Well then you out of most of the Eternal-Bond Advocates should know more than anyone else what it should mean. If the mount was in the free version, the Marriage System would be sullied be people having Fake-Marriages for content.

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Other people's bonds do not affect mine, nor do they affect yours. It's not up to you to decide what the right reason for the bond system is.

But let's say you're right and only meaningful bonds should have the mount. There's no reason why they can't have the ability to purchase the deluxe option through both the cash shop AND gil - it would just mean the gil version would be an extreme amount (like 15-20mil). This way players who want that special bond can still get it without having to pony up more cash for a game they've already paid for and subscribe to each month; it just means they'll have to work hard for the gil first.

I'm still glad "No Pay to Win" is a rule, but revealing a week beforehand that your previews have been behind a paywall the entire time is a dick move.

They've been showing off Eternal Bond items for a long time now. They've been saying that it won't cost gil for a little while now. They had plenty of time to say, "Eternal Bond itself will be free, but we'll be offering lots of bonuses as 'Optional Services' if you want to go all out and be extra extravagant." They had time to bite the bullet and frame it in a favorable way at the cost of revealing that they would be utilizing the cash shop, and they didn't. They waited until right before the patch drops and said, "Oh, by the way, most of the stuff we've been showing you is cash only."

The last line in the sand was the revelation that you are not entitled to all content by virtue of your game purchase and monthly subscription alone. This is the line in the sand where you now know for sure that you cannot be excited for anything you see in a preview that is not related to game balance or progression until the true cost is revealed directly prior to its release. Where's the next line?

People will be happy to pay extra for services under a lot of circumstances, but this kind of marketing/PR just invites bitterness and disappointment.