So hows that mac port going?

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Originally Posted by Brianmj

Thank you so much for the response. Previous mentions about a mac port have been a little ambiguous. It's a little disheartening to hear that a developmental decision and a business decision are separate (always thought they were one and the same). But a mac port confirmed to be up and running is sweet news to hear, nonetheless. If released, this will be Square's first mac game, no?

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business move in terms of support, remember, SE gotta support development on a continuing cycle for a platform that not even apple will support SE on, which is harder on them. Either way, this development I hope will open up personal computers awareness more in japan, as it bodes well for more games to be released on PC/mac.

Did I read in this thread that a Mac is a status symbol? For whom?!

On topic though, the whole "wise business" decision will have very little to do with satisfying the personal whims of current players and more to do with how many new subscribers$$$ a mac version will bring in. At the risk of sounding pessimistic, I predict: not enough.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

business move in terms of support, remember, SE gotta support development on a continuing cycle for a platform that not even apple will support SE on, which is harder on them. Either way, this development I hope will open up personal computers awareness more in japan, as it bodes well for more games to be released on PC/mac.

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What do you mean Apple won't support Square "on a continuing cycle"? Apple probably provides the same support that Microsoft does. They have to keep developers investing in their platform somehow.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

If you didn't catch the latest Letter from the Producer LIVE, there was a brief mention of a possible version for Mac.



We’ll let you know should we receive additional information.

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Oh happy day! I just bought a MBP last week and one of the hardest parts was reconciling the fact I cant play FF on it.

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Originally Posted by Brianmj

What do you mean Apple won't support Square "on a continuing cycle"? Apple probably provides the same support that Microsoft does. They have to keep developers investing in their platform somehow.

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Microsoft would help in terms of say direct X support etc.. apple OS most likely will use open GL which has no input from apple, the apis needed to operate with, apple dont bother, microsoft has control over direct x so its part of their job in that sense. SE are the ones that have to figure out and continue to figure out in each patch cycle apple go through, as you own a apple product, apple dont see their platform as a gaming system to begin with, you can tell where they put their money in it.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

Microsoft would help in terms of say direct X support etc.. apple OS most likely will use open GL which has no input from apple, the apis needed to operate with, apple dont bother, microsoft has control over direct x so its part of their job in that sense. SE are the ones that have to figure out and continue to figure out in each patch cycle apple go through, as you own a apple product, apple dont see their platform as a gaming system to begin with, you can tell where they put their money in it.

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Apple is part of the Khronos group, the governing body that decides the direction of OpenGL https://www.khronos.org/members/promoters. Apple does use OpenGL to draw the OS x desktop - if you're working on anything 3d, you have to use OpenGL on mac os https://developer.apple.com/opengl/. Apple's lackluster support comes from not supporting the latest version of OpenGL. Just 2 weeks ago, OpenGL 4.5 was released http://www.slideshare.net/Mark_Kilga...or-nvidia-gpus while with Mac OS X Yosemite, Apple is still using version 4.1 http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/commen...ing_opengl_41/. Mac OS is 4 versions behind in its OpenGL implementation. But OpenGL 4.1 is equivalent to Direct3D 11.1, so its not that bad. 4.1 just doesn't have compute shaders, which I love to try out on OSX.

If you can spend $1600 on a laptop to browse Facebook, you can buy a killer gaming desktop or laptop for the same price.

People play commercial games on mac computers? I thought mac computers were for browsing facebook and playing candycrush.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

People play commercial games on mac computers? I thought mac computers were for browsing facebook and playing candycrush.

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No! The whole lot of you are operating on misconceptions about Macs and OSX. OSX is a platform, a tool, just like Windows. Whatever you can do in Windows, you can do in OSX.

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Originally Posted by Brianmj

No! The whole lot of you are operating on misconceptions about Macs and OSX. OSX is a platform, a tool, just like Windows. Whatever you can do in Windows, you can do in OSX.

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This.
A million times this.

So much. This.