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Envoyé par Kitru

You moved Flash to the "optional" category and replaced it with Internal Release, but you didn't change the commentary/explanations. Might be a bit confusing for someone reading it from scratch to see the Internal Release being discussed in how it related to Berserk and Overpower.

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Fixed, thank you. I'm honestly thinking the last two slots should be set as 'pick whatever you like' because Internal Release is a really minor damage buff (5% for 15 seconds).

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Envoyé par LordTiberiusRex

P.S. @Paikis, could you reformat the layout so that way it looks a little more reader-friendly? (Here's an example: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mpendium-2.0.1) (This is targeted primarily at the "Abilities List" and "Best in Slot" section of the guide (1. There should also be a notice that the number before the skill means the level you get it at & 2. Add in a picture like how the link does for the BiS; not only is it a visual, it shows you exactly what stats are there for each item and the sum of them))

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I have reformatted the abilities section to highlight the ability names. I don't like what Griever has done with his formatting though, as empty lines between every ability just seems like so much unneeded bloat. I've also made up some nice tables to match the ones in Griever's PLD guide (mostly because I'm lazy) and will add those in at some point. I also want to do a more comprehensive section on gearing because at the moment all that I have is 2 lists and a couple points. Something on Bravura Zenith vs Dual Haken perhaps, though that really is a no-brainer.

It's interesting just how adamant people on reddit are that Bravura Zenith is a waste of Tomes. I got mine as my first myth upgrade way back when, so perhaps I'm not the best person to be asking, but I've never regretted it. What do you folks think?

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Envoyé par Paikis

It's interesting just how adamant people on reddit are that Bravura Zenith is a waste of Tomes. I got mine as my first myth upgrade way back when, so perhaps I'm not the best person to be asking, but I've never regretted it. What do you folks think?

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I have both BravuraZ and Dual Haken, reasoning being that they have different distributions. It's not like Dual Haken is explicitly *better* than BravuraZ; if you need the acc, yes Dual Haken is better, but BravuraZ brings more parry and a healthy does of skill speed, which, depending upon your opinion of it, is the best thing to stack after you've topped off your acc. This means that, if you can get the acc from Dual Haken through other sources, you're better off using BravuraZ. I keep them both for much the same reason that I have both the Allagan wrist and the Hero's wrist: one has the "preferred" secondary stats but the other has more itemization devoted to parry rating. It could be considered kind of wasteful, but it allows me to make sure I get only the proper amount of accuracy while maximizing my parry rating.

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Envoyé par Skull_Angel

Use Ctrl/Shift/Alt modified binds, works like a charm; you may need a bit of adjustment time, but it's worth it. I even went as far as to reassign Caps Lock to Shift since I was constantly hitting it on accident (who ever uses Caps Lock any way!?).

Current binds are F1 F2 M1 M2 F G (no Mod)(Shift)(Alt) ` 1 2 3 4 5 Q E R T and I have enough room for more than every ability on every Job with room to grow.

What I really wish SE would do is allow for modifiers to be added to macros to cut down on Hot Bar real-estate.

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D'oh. Of course the F-keys. Totally missed it :( Yeah it fits okay now. Between F1-5 and the Z-B row.

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Envoyé par Paikis

Fixed, thank you. I'm honestly thinking the last two slots should be set as 'pick whatever you like' because Internal Release is a really minor damage buff (5% for 15 seconds).

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I'd encourage Warriors to actively change their cross-class skills and tailor them to the encounter they'll be facing.

I agree that Provoke, Convalescence, and Featherfoot are the three "must haves" here. As for the others, describing the situations where you would want certain skills would be a great addition to the guide.

Mantra - Fights with heavy AoE healing. eg. Titan, Ifrit

Internal Release - Fights that can benefit from the extra damage output. Typically damage races or ones with adds. eg. Garuda, Titan, Turn 4

Second Wind - Fights where you can get hit with dangerous burst damage that can one-round you if you're not topped off. eg. Caduceus, Twintania, Ifrit, ADS.

Awareness - Similar to Second Wind, to further reduce potential for damage bursts from crits.

Flash - Fights where you need AoE threat generation and TP conservation. eg. Turn 4

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Envoyé par bokchoykn

Awareness - Similar to Second Wind, to further reduce potential for damage bursts from crits. eg. Caduceus, Twintania.

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No boss in Coil crits. Take Awareness for fights like Titan and Ifrit Extreme (And Titan Hard, lol) if you want it to be marginally useful.

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Envoyé par Instrumentality

No boss in Coil crits. Take Awareness for fights like Titan and Ifrit Extreme (And Titan Hard, lol) if you want it to be marginally useful.

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Thanks and fixed. I used Awareness vs Twin this week. I feel dumb.

Well written guide and input from others.

I have nothing to add btw.

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Envoyé par bokchoykn

Thanks and fixed. I used Awareness vs Twin this week. I feel dumb.

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It's a bit fallacious to say that no boss in Coil crits. They *can* crit, but the only attacks that NPCs (any NPC, not just bosses or NPCs in Coil) use that can score crits are their auto-attacks. Given that auto-attacks make up a very small portion of their total damage and/or risk of killing the tank, the amount that crits will affect you in Coil is negligible.

Against Twintania, some people will actually counsel you to use Awareness for Death Sentences because, while Death Sentence might not be able to crit, the auto-attacks before and after it most definitely *can*. When you're surviving an attack by less than 1-2k hp, a critical hit *could* actually kill you when a normal hit would not have. The issue that arises is whether those attacks would have crit if you'd had Awareness up, given that enemies have remarkably low crit rates.

I have actually been killed by getting spiked and then crit in coil (in both t1 from Cad and t4 from 4 stack dread; nothing the ADS uses can crit though, afaik) so I wouldn't say that it's *worthless*. Since you can't really predict when the RNG is going to decide to give you a bad time nor can you assume that it will occur at a rate in which you'll have Awareness up for it, Awareness does have severely limited value.

As such, it's *bad*, but it's not completely worthless. Just mostly worthless.

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Envoyé par Kitru

It's a bit fallacious to say that no boss in Coil crits. They *can* crit

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No.

/tenchar

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Envoyé par Instrumentality

No.

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So what are those random auto-attacks that hit me for 50% harder than normal auto-attacks count as?