Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

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Originally Posted by AngelicDeath

Wow imagining crying about not being the main character:)
Good riddance glad you are leaving don't trip by me on the way out I love how all the people complaining about wuk are just giant adult babies as my group and discord laugh at this post

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You need not bring out "your group and discord" because the only purpose they serve in your post is inflate your ego

I'm curious...what's the industry going to do for her?
I think the smart thing would be lockdown socials temporarily until this blows over and if the situation is really bad, then I'd hope she's contacting the authorities. I checked her twitter out of curiousity and I'm surprised to see it open to all.

Everything seems normal for her. I think this might be why people are doubting her. Skimming through her twitter, I'm seeing nothing but support and people being happy about her performance?

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Originally Posted by Drimn

Don't hold your breath. This is just further bait for validation and love-bombing. That being said I can't blame Sena for this, a very large portion of American full-time voice actors that focus on anime and video games behave the same way and it's pretty despicable. I blame Kate Cwynar for fostering an environment of entitlement, unprofessionalism, and an us-versus-them attitude towards the players of FFXIV. Part of what made FFXIV great was it felt like the people involved loved what they were creating and wanted others to love it, too. That's gone now, at least on the Anglophone side of things. Now we're just expected to consume, applaud, and get excited for next product and if we don't then we're wrong for not liking whatever they give us.

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So true. It's not like the community didn't have its problems or wasn't kind of divided beforehand. But I admit, I have never seen it as divided as it is now and has been since DT dropped...
It's really sad to see. The toxic positivity problem that existed before has been boosted to a new, way higher level.

The allegations Sena made, well...we don't know if it's true or not, only she does. It's not like I don't wanna believe her, since harassment is something that is sadly almost a normal occurrence on social media or the internet as a whole. It wouldn't at all surprise me if some crazy individuals actually send her some very evil messages.

However, it also seems like she is clearly aiming for more support (also from the industry as a whole, which is weird because...there are so many voiceactors and she is just a very small one, nearly noone even knows her. Wuk is her first prominent role...so yeah..), the love-bombing that was mentioned in the quoted post and for people to get really rallied up and defend her (which seems to work quite well, I just skimmed through some of the replies and wowie...some people are also saying very, uhm...not so nice and almost dangerous sounding stuff about what should be done with people who dare to call Sena out on her bad VA job...)
Meanwhile, she tweets some other stuff, even seems to be totally chill to stream tonight...instead of taking a break or protecting her accounts...

I have to admit, it's kinda weird.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

Seems we reached a new low point with this.

https://i.redd.it/wph6ks7qgdgd1.png

Wonderful.

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This community does this over literally anything though.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

This community does this over literally anything though.

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This.

As much as it sucks that some freaks are sending her these personal attacks, that doesn't shield her from critique.

People do this all the time, just ask any streamer or V-Tuber.

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Originally Posted by Xellith

Imagine calling people with legitimate grievances "giant adult babies" and then posting what you just posted. Dear lord.

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But people in here do act like giant adult babies, tho.
"Legitimate grievances" my ass, it's such a huge amount of double standards, hypocrisy, and entitlement that's genuinely laughable.

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Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66

But people in here do act like giant adult babies, tho.
"Legitimate grievances" my ass, it's such a huge amount of double standards, hypocrisy, and entitlement that's genuinely laughable.

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Where exactly are all those things you listed at? The issues people have seem pretty consistent to me

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Originally Posted by AngelicDeath

Wow imagining crying about not being the main character:)
Good riddance glad you are leaving don't trip by me on the way out I love how all the people complaining about wuk are just giant adult babies as my group and discord laugh at this post

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Your imaginary friends are not a group sally

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Originally Posted by JuicyHeals

Where exactly are all those things you listed at? The issues people have seem pretty consistent to me

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Consistency doesn't exclude any of the things I spoke about.

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Originally Posted by OMGJesuis66

Consistency doesn't exclude any of the things I spoke about.

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Okay then tell me what about the issues people have aren't legitimate in your eyes?

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It's not entitlement to point out what's bad I haven't seen any double standards from anyone that has a problem with the story and or character as for hypocrisy...possibly

Remember when Wuk Lamat's real dad rigged a cooking contest in her favor because he wanted her on the throne?

Finally made it to the end of this expansion and holy hell, Wuk Lamat ruins every important character moment of every other npc. The ekspansion would still be pretty terrible with out her, since the story overall is pretty bad. But man I can't believe they wrote this and thought it was good. Like the entire msq of the last zone goes against everything we learned through the story up until DT and it's further ruined by the constant comments and interjections from Wuk Lamat.
This part have finally convinced me, there is no saving the msq without a new writing team and I doubt they'll even consider doing that, so since this game no longer have a compelling story, I really can't see any reason to keep playing, since the gameplay is very stale at this point.

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Originally Posted by Karious

Remember when Wuk Lamat's real dad rigged a cooking contest in her favor because he wanted her on the throne?

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As much as I dislike Wuk and DT, I don't think her real dad rigged a cooking contest. Yes him and the other villagers put clues and the banana leaf, but in order to get that information in the first place, you still have to ask around and show that you genuinely want to know how to make the dish. There's zero way Zoraal ja and Bakool jaja being paired together (by luck) will do that.

I just feel bad that we didnt get a proper Krile story because Wuky needed to be in everything and everywhere... I was promised the best girl's story and I got tasteless ice cream... shame.

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Originally Posted by Kozh

As much as I dislike Wuk and DT, I don't think her real dad rigged a cooking contest. Yes him and the other villagers put clues and the banana leaf, but in order to get that information in the first place, you still have to ask around and show that you genuinely want to know how to make the dish. There's zero way Zoraal ja and Bakool jaja being paired together (by luck) will do that.

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Maybe but i found it sus that not every claimant would be able to get their own keystones moreso with the pairings.
One had his daughter and a more level headed claimant while the other had a war mongery claimant and a two-headed mamook claimant (a group which his dad have reservations with how one pushed llamatea into a hole).

Would have been more intereseting if wuk got paired with bjj but yeah. Missed opportunity to flesh out Bakool, understand his motivations earlier.

I found the whole cooking thing and all the trials badly set up really.

For the cooking trial I at least expected that she would have to cook it herself, but nope Krile cooked it (and ignored WoL max culinarian). She also had help both gathering information and getting the ingredients (which they all did, we'll get to that in a moment), not to mention the big help of having an inside man to explain everything. None of the others had that. While yes the other team were the one who created the problem of getting the leaves (so why couldn't they get some?) it would have been more fair to just let both teams use the leaves they had. Maybe add more random leaves in and let them pick so they had to find the right ones.

The bird being released Bakool Ja ja should have plain been disqualified for and imprisoned as it was capable of killing a lot of people previously and instead they just... glossed over that because he has a sad backstory he never showed any sign of until he got beaten up. And they teamed up and defeated the bird so all got stones... But in the Mamook trial they teamed up and Koana showed character growth being willing to put aside his own wants to support his sister. And gets nothing for it. No, I don't consider her sharing it with him being rewarded. The contest/their father should have rewarded his selfless act and given him a stone for that fight because both he and his helpers participated. Isn't it a good quality to show you're willing to put others ahead of yourself?

With the float while Wuk Lamat suggested it, I got the impression she just wanted to see the festival. She wanted them to be happy yes but didn't seem to show much concern or empathy for how they were suffering and starving. I wished my WoL could have just refused to help her and instead helped them rebuild and recover. Yes the float did end up being the solution, but only by chance. It was her team that did the thinking and working out that it might do something and would need specific items.

The alpaca one was one of the only ones she did do alone (though again, had help with all the trading from the girl).

And now around to the whole concept of even having people they chose to help them from foreign countries who they didn't know for a bar of soap. They even tell you when you arrive they don't want foreigners interfering. Yet bringing the greatest heroes from a foreign land to help two claimants is fair? This is meant to be a test of the claimants and their ability to rule right? You would think those with them would be people who would be helping them once they are ruling too. Yet none of the scions nor the WoL will be sticking around to help her govern, which means those people doing the thinking for her will not be there to do it when she is ruling. So why are they allowed to help her? The whole thing just seems bizarre.

The funny thing about Wuk lamat seeking our help...it doesnt make sense. She barely left her city to explore the "lands" she will govern...but travels basically over the atlantic ocean to "europe" to get our help.

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Originally Posted by Lyndina

The funny thing about Wuk lamat seeking our help...it doesnt make sense. She barely left her city to explore the "lands" she will govern...but travels basically over the atlantic ocean to "europe" to get our help.

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Oh god I hope people don't start trying to compare her to Pocahontas then.... we wouldn't want to insult that poor woman so (pocahontas)

You know, thinking about it, does anyone else find it weird that we hear no reference to the Final Days in Tural. Like we get there, and we see no signs that it even happened. Maybe I'm miss remembering, as my brain is desperately trying to make me forget anything to do with this story.

Nope, there wasnt even an mentioning of those events. Its like nothing ever happened there. At least in the Main Quests there wasnt any mentioning.

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Originally Posted by Alchemii

You know, thinking about it, does anyone else find it weird that we hear no reference to the Final Days in Tural. Like we get there, and we see no signs that it even happened. Maybe I'm miss remembering, as my brain is desperately trying to make me forget anything to do with this story.

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On one hand it really wants to give the writer the benefit of the doubt, rationalizing because Tural didn't really get hit. Remember as serious as it were, we did manage to nib the Final Day sequence in the bud. Only the most severe depressed population - Garlemand which was already nuked, and Tharvanar which was undergoing severed economic depression had an outbreak. The Eozia Alliance countries were riding high in moral due to economic recovery, long term issue resolved and/or just regaining independence didn't really see the effect outside of minority report from small misaligned groups. If you think about it logically, Tural is supposed to be a stable countries where everyone is happy. So it makes sense they didn't see the effect.


So yeah ... I really did try to give the writer the benefit of the doubt ... but than they had to do the Mamook Ja crap. If they've been depressed enough to be killing their own babies for 80 years ... all of my reasoning evaporated, because there is no freaking way their tribe would have survived End Walker. And so I was once again remind of the morbid reality of DT, if I can sum up the approach of the writting in DT with one sencetence:

Always aim for cheap emotional shots at the expense of pace and consistency..

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Always aim for cheap emotional shots at the expense of pace and consistency..

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This is where I get twitchy with people who say anyone who doesn't like DT is 'media illiterate'.

DT has, moment to moment, decent emotional ideas. The issue is it never actually... does anything to earn them. If we'd seen Bakool Ja Ja struggling with what he's doing in an emotional sense, if we'd seen more desperation, we'd be able to come around to him better. But he had to be a complete villain early on so there's a 'villain' and Zoraal Ja's twist makes 'sense', so he turns into a Captain Planet villain. Erenville's supposed to have a whole lot going on in the last section, but no real time was devoted to setting up his relationship with his mother. I'll be honest, I didn't *realize* Cacihua was his mother for a huge chunk of the story because of the narrative problem that is Wuk Lamat.

Nothing exists outside Wuk Lamat. Nothing. Heavensward had the greater context and wheels of the Dragonsong War moving, Stormblood for all its faults had the stories of Ala Mhigo and Doma, Shadowbringers had the Crystarium and Eulmore. Endwalker's was the weakest, but it made up for that by being the culmination of all the previous stories.

Tural's at peace. Everyone's happy. It's ha-ha smiley happy funtimes. Gulool Ja Ja tells us if nobody's worthy, nobody gets the throne. Our investment is undercut almost *immediately* because we know Zoraal and Bakool are both idiots, and while Koana's an idiot too he's the correctable sort, as Thancred and Urianger did in a surprisingly competent bit of writing for this expansion.

There is no larger-stakes story at play until Alexandria, and by the time that happens they start trying to go into this philosophical bend that had been loosely present earlier in the story, but do it in one of the most clumsy, blunt, and simple ways possible with legacy and remembrance.

But when I say 'loosely' I mean 'Loosely'. They didn't talk about Zoraal's interest in his own legacy, they didn't have characters talking about events from their past- even Wuk talking about things she'd done with her alleged brothers in their youth. That's not there. Gulool Ja Ja's funeral is offscreen. Every emotional beat they try for is either spur-of-the-moment, or detracted from by the fact that Wuk Lamat has to be involved. Constantly.

I really, really hate calling characters Mary Sues but... Wuk *is*. There's no grander plot that exists outside of her. The Alexandrian war was a chance for Wuk to step up as not 'Wuk the aspirant' but 'Wuk the Vow' and she... didn't. She wasn't acting as a head of state, she wasn't reflecting on those decisions, no, it became the story of Wuk and Sphene's conflict, not Tural and Alexandria's.

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Originally Posted by BigBoom550

This is where I get twitchy with people who say anyone who doesn't like DT is 'media illiterate'.

DT has, moment to moment, decent emotional ideas. The issue is it never actually... does anything to earn them.

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I mentioned it before in another thread, but it kinda highlight the problem with Hiroi as a writer, he is a play writer, not a contemporary writer. You don't watch a stuffs like R&J, King Lear and Hamlet and questioning the "why", but rather you're supposed to be drawn in by the performance, living the emotion from scene to scene. But contemporary narrative need consistency and cohesiveness for a scene to carry impact, otherwise they just fell flat.

Basically, he's someone suitable if you want a short - selfcontained - high impact story. But his skill is ill-suit for a grand epic or a chronicle story.

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Originally Posted by Kozh

As much as I dislike Wuk and DT, I don't think her real dad rigged a cooking contest. Yes him and the other villagers put clues and the banana leaf, but in order to get that information in the first place, you still have to ask around and show that you genuinely want to know how to make the dish. There's zero way Zoraal ja and Bakool jaja being paired together (by luck) will do that.

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Eh there was more than a few clues thrown to her.

Her dad more or less goes „hey you should look at THAT place there *wink*“
There we find a hidden stack with bananas that just so happen to be there.

The actual contest was also strange.
First her father had to be reminded that there was another group he needs to judge.
Second the other group fails because… culture?

The trial was too cook that specific meal, both teams did that and both meals seemed to be the same.
Learning the culture and history wasn‘t specified as part of the trial though.

So yeah I call that whole thing rigged.

The PeluPelu were far more fair in comparison.
ZJ got an Alpaca without the whole saddle and trade stuff and he passed because the PeluPelu actually held true to their word and the specifications of the trial.
To get a Alpaca, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Lyndina

The funny thing about Wuk lamat seeking our help...it doesnt make sense. She barely left her city to explore the "lands" she will govern...but travels basically over the atlantic ocean to "europe" to get our help.

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Koana. He has traveled a fair bit and has an education from Sharlayan. He has no real understanding of the culture and values of his own people since he was schooled abroad. He figures this out during the succession, and imo becomes someone worthy of being a leader of Tural. Policies include using knowledge he learned in Sharlayan to usher Tural into a bright future full of technological innovations at the expense of local culture and traditions. Adequate candidate if he can be taught to embrace Tural as it is already. Something he does by the end of the succession.

Wuk Lamat. Lives her entire life in the capital. Has no idea whatsoever of the culture or values of her own nation outside of the city gates. Doesnt think her other brother Zoraal Ja should be leader since he wants war. Policies include happiness for people she considers "her people". (This isnt a policy..) She really is just the brawn behind Koanas brains. It's lucky she was smart enough to offer Koana the Head of Reason job or dear lord Tural would be upstream without a paddle.

Zoraal Ja. Lives in the capital and wants his fathers attention. He craves it. He feels threatened by his adopted siblings and thinks that he has no real legacy and must make his own. Policies include wanting to take his people to war, as he thinks teaching people that war is bad is a good thing. His advisor is his "reason" and he kills him. Terrible candidate. Daddy issues... smh. Where is his mom?

Bakool Ja Ja. Meme who should be in prison.

Out of all these characters I genuinely think the only reasonable leader for Tural is Koana. Wuk Lamat basically just runs around bopping people with a big stick and telling everyone to be happy.

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Originally Posted by Xellith

Out of all these characters I genuinely think the only reasonable leader for Tural is Koana. Wuk Lamat basically just runs around bopping people with a big stick and telling everyone to be happy.

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The only reason Wuk Lamat won is because she got lucky and other people did her work to a large part.

PeluPelu:
She got the help of Mablu.

HanuHanu:
She was lucky with the festival being the right answer.

Giants:
She had the WoL at her side and it was impossible to lose the trial with us

Goblins:
As far as I remember WE were the ones with the connection to that dude in the first place from the boat.
She was lucky he was looking for a job in the first place and that he was ready to throw down the job he had right then.

Hrothgar:
She won because the leads to the bananas was on the eye and the other team lost because... only her father knows.
Wuk Evu also was just there at the right time.
She was able to team up with Koana.

Mamool Ja:
BJJ did a quick heal-face turn because of his mother.
She was again lucky the WoL and scions were there to back her up.

Golden City:
Krile found it and not her.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

The only reason Wuk Lamat won is because she got lucky and other people did her work to a large part.

PeluPelu:
She got the help of Mablu.

HanuHanu:
She was lucky with the festival being the right answer.

Giants:
She had the WoL at her side and it was impossible to lose the trial with us

Goblins:
As far as I remember WE were the ones with the connection to that dude in the first place from the boat.
She was lucky he was looking for a job in the first place and that he was ready to throw down the job he had right then.

Hrothgar:
She won because the leads to the bananas was on the eye and the other team lost because... only her father knows.
Wuk Evu also was just there at the right time.
She was able to team up with Koana.

Mamool Ja:
BJJ did a quick heal-face turn because of his mother.
She was again lucky the WoL and scions were there to back her up.

Golden City:
Krile found it and not her.

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She got carried.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

HanuHanu:
She was lucky with the festival being the right answer.

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This part annoyed me more the more I thought about it.

"Oh, you people are going hungry because of a storm that ravaged your fields? Have you thought about just being happy lmao?"

I mean, sure, they brought up all the whole plot device of aether and whatnot... but Koana literally walked in some time later, poured a drop of shiny concoction and solved the problem too?
And the worst part of it all is that Alphinaud of all people, thought "Eh, let's roll with it".

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

Mamool Ja:
BJJ did a quick heal-face turn because of his mother.
She was again lucky the WoL and scions were there to back her up.

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From bully, to sadboi to "I just loooove Poochie!" in the blink of an eye. It was a little jarring.

Last Saturday I finally managed to complete this MSQ. After that I had to take a break, so I logged out exactly 1 minute after the last scene with Wuk Lamat and Erenville. Since then I hardly play anymore because I simply lack the motivation. And now I have questions.

1. What was the reason for this MSQ?

2. What was the story? For me it all felt like I was a tourist and had read a boring information brochure about the individual areas and a bit of information about the people there.

3. Why were the Scions there in the first place?

4. Why were we there? Just to smile and nod? SE could have saved itself that. It all feels like "The light is on but nobody is home" ... (For those who don't know what that means = although someone seems to be normal or satisfactory, they are in fact very stupid or useless. I feel degraded from heroine - world savior - god slayer ... to a completely useless thing that was just there. Behind every MSQ there is a message to the players that is conveyed to us directly or indirectly. What was the message of the Dawntrail MSQ? That we are lemmings? Simple-minded, useless? Or that we should still smile even when SE has completely screwed us over so that we buy this stupid story? And friendship ... SE we are not friends, because you don't pay for friends with your hard-earned money. And instead of apologizing to the many dissatisfied paying players ... Yoshi P. prefers to tour the world and be celebrated. All of this says more than 1000 words.



The new maps 5/10 = because there's just nothing going on there, there's no reason to come back except for boring fates. There's nothing to discover. The maps are lifeless.

MSQ 0/10

Music 2/10 = this time Soken was so wrong. Maybe Yoshi should have let him do it alone.

Dungeons 4/10 = thanks to Healer Strike you can be happy if you only die 5 times per run

Trials 4/10 = nothing special, you learn the boss mechanics very quickly

Raid = thanks to zero motivation, I haven't been able to bring myself to do the raid yet

New housing items 3/10 = most of the new items are either much too big or much too small. Most of them are unsuitable for apartments.

New equipment 3/10 = as always, lots of recycled items

Graphics update 2/10 = Elpis is completely ruined, it used to be my favorite map. The grass was so beautiful there before and now everything is a pink mass, lifeless, ugly. My second character, a female Hyur Midlander, looks completely different than before the update. Before she had a slight smile but now every mouth looks terrible. Typical stick up the ass syndrome. Most of it looks the same as it did before the update, I wonder what SE has been doing in the last 2 years? A few shadows here, a few light changes there, making everything a little softer here and a little stronger contrast there... It's all just half-hearted.

Unrelated to Wuk Lamat (sort of), but in the last phase of the final fight of M4S, all around the arena there are family portraits around the arena of Yanna, Eutrope, and Neyuni and (their father, in other ones?) and given the actual story of the raid quests, it's very shocking to me to see that somehow the background of a non-canon fight has more soul and personality to a story than the entire base game MSQ.

https://i.imgur.com/WNb1tM5.png
https://i.imgur.com/ee1hk1i.png

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

Unrelated to Wuk Lamat (sort of), but in the last phase of the final fight of M4S, all around the arena there are family portraits around the arena of Yanna, Eutrope, and Neyuni and (their father, in other ones?) and given the actual story of the raid quests, it's very shocking to me to see that somehow the background of a non-canon fight has more soul and personality to a story than the entire base game MSQ.

https://i.imgur.com/WNb1tM5.png
https://i.imgur.com/ee1hk1i.png

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That family picture is adorable. I wish to protect these smiles.

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

Unrelated to Wuk Lamat (sort of), but in the last phase of the final fight of M4S, all around the arena there are family portraits around the arena of Yanna, Eutrope, and Neyuni and (their father, in other ones?) and given the actual story of the raid quests, it's very shocking to me to see that somehow the background of a non-canon fight has more soul and personality to a story than the entire base game MSQ.

https://i.imgur.com/WNb1tM5.png
https://i.imgur.com/ee1hk1i.png

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..... I haven't finished that questline yet, because I got distracted by crafting, but this actually makes me even angrier that we got what we got from the MSQ.

the friggin raid series had me more captivated than the MSQ.

I think its pretty notable that the big "right of succession" that Wuk traveled overseas to find help with had us competing against two people who didn't take it seriously at all. And one person who dropped out of the race to simp for Wuk being the Hokage.

Like seirously what the fuck was that.

I was also very confused about why the Scions even accepted helping at all in a contest for leadership of a foreign land while having NO knowledge of the other participants aside from what the one hiring them said 'that ones bad'. I know we've helped budding leaders before, but we usually haven't outright gone 'okay this one should win over these others we know nothing about' and actively put all our efforts into making sure they win. I for one would have been very keen to know why Wuk Lamat didn't simply support Koana and instead chose to try for leadership herself. Did she not think Koana would want peace? I thought she was supposed to be close to him? (if they'd showed a flashback with Koana telling her that they should both participate to increase the odds of someone other than Zarool winning that may have helped) Also if she's so friendly and buddy buddy with everyone why exactly did she even need to hire the Scions? Shouldn't she have had friends and people she knew in her homeland that could have helped her? Come to think of it we don't actually see any friends of hers besides her family (including the nursemaid), and the guy who makes tacos? How is she so friendly yet so alone?

It also bugged me that all our echo bouts in this expansion were basically useless. We see flashes while someone is literally describing the event to us. Which usually makes us no better off than those who listened to the retelling. These did not have to be from the echo, you could have just shown stuff as they were telling us. Previously at least a chunk of our echo use would be things people weren't telling or were hiding, making our ability actually useful instead of us just having a headache whenever someone mentions the past. The one place it actually helped was where we recognized Kriles parents, that's it.

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Originally Posted by Alchemii

You know, thinking about it, does anyone else find it weird that we hear no reference to the Final Days in Tural. Like we get there, and we see no signs that it even happened. Maybe I'm miss remembering, as my brain is desperately trying to make me forget anything to do with this story.

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It is weird, and goes to show how self-contained and perhaps self-involved Tural is as a continent. They trade with the outside world but seem to know almost nothing about it. We've met Turali characters before DT, some of them write letters and go back home, yet information from the world doesn't seem to make it across the ocean or maybe they simply don't care because eh, everything's well at home. I've been doing a lot of side content and lost count how many times a Turali character finds out that the WoL is a pretty big deal in the outside world, actually, only to have no reaction whatsoever. If it's not connected to Tural in some way, they don't care.

Honey B. Lovely deserves to be new Dawnservant more than Wuk Lamat, actually the Raid-story is more interesting than the MSQ story. How could this happen?

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Originally Posted by Oizen

I think its pretty notable that the big "right of succession" that Wuk traveled overseas to find help with had us competing against two people who didn't take it seriously at all. And one person who dropped out of the race to simp for Wuk being the Hokage.

Like seirously what the fuck was that.

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She then later tells us that she's never been to Sharlayan and wants to visit sometime. Yeah, I think the continent is in great hands.

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Originally Posted by Drimn

She then later tells us that she's never been to Sharlayan and wants to visit sometime. Yeah, I think the continent is in great hands.

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I'm electing to believe that's meant to imply she wasn't in Sharlayan very long- basically in and out- and wants to return for a 'proper tourism visit', because the alternative is so dumb that I have to imagine myself dumber to imagine it. Artifact of the medium, basically.

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Originally Posted by Wingale

Honey B. Lovely deserves to be new Dawnservant more than Wuk Lamat, actually the Raid-story is more interesting than the MSQ story. How could this happen?

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Honey B. Lovely would make a wonderful Dawnservant. All hail the Queen Bee!