#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by Sacae

Because, while I do not typically play healer, and, therefore, am not really qualified to speak on the current status of the role, I would like the community to be better served by the dev team. I just don't see the particular idea espoused by this thread as productive, and it seems to me to be more about whining to people who already agree with you.

Therefore, I suggested an alternative idea, one that in no way opposes the underlying frustration demonstrated here. But it seems as if no effort beyond "not playing healer" and whining is worth trying. So, passive non-engagement and unproductive posturing.

Why are none of the dissatisfied healers making active attempts to get their feedback listened to? There is one place on this forum where it is generally agreed that the devs pay attention to, post over there. Yes it may be harder communicating through translation software, and yes, some Japanese posters may be hostile to westerners posting there. To which my response is "you'd rather just not play the role you like than risk being told off by an anonymous Japanese poster?"

I mean, for real, what's the worst that could happen? Someone is mean to you on the internet?

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Except we can't be certain they pay any attention to the JP forums, either. The feedback they pay attention to could be coming from other places, like in-game itself where developers play their personal characters with other players on the JP worlds.

YoshiP did tell us that data center travel turning a single data center into a group content hub was a problem limited to the JP worlds only and that NA/EU weren't affected. Very easy to get that impression if you're only getting your information from playing on the JP worlds instead of looking at forum feedback. There are a lot of native JP speakers playing on the NA and EU realms but their feedback gets posted in the JP forums. Hard to believe that if the subject of raid central had been taken from the JP forums that no one would have mentioned it was also a problem for NA.

RMT advertising wasn't a problem in FFXIV until the day that YoshiP decided to do one of his walks on a NA world and got constantly blasted with RMT spam despite NA players complaining about it in the game forums all along.

They're not going to get a good overview of what the entire player base is experiencing if they're limiting themselves to feedback from players on the JP worlds. JP culturally tends to be more reserved about sharing personal opinions than the NA and EU player bases because they're sensitive about giving offense (why it's taken so long for SE to do anything about the friends list/blacklist deficiencies).

So we end up with the players here trying to organize a strike because if there's enough participation (which I still doubt), it's going to reflect in data metrics on internal reports. Words aren't accomplishing anything so action will have to speak for those disaffected.

But if NA and EU players can't get JP players on board with the idea so it's reflected on the JP worlds as much as the NA and EU, the developers aren't likely to pay much attention. If that has a chance of happening, it's probably going to take NA and EU content creators reaching out to their JP counterparts to spread the word. It's not something that will be accomplished through the game forums in any language.

I'd propose you just make an Online Petition that isn't tied to the Forums like https://www.change.org/

It's been done before https://www.change.org/p/square-enix..._location=tag_

The more exposure the better.

Just posting here to give a +1. Been so bored of healing since shadow bringers. There's no damage to heal and the dps rotation puts me to sleep.

I can take part, but if I main warrior instead of scholar from on, aren't I still a healer?

Please make healing more challenging and rewarding.

I really miss the days where a strong healer meant something in an MMO.

You have my support. As a SGE Main, I will be striking starting the 14th and will not be using healer roles in ANY content. I have plenty of ways of playing solo or with friends so not need to worry about my game experience. Maybe with exceptionally long queue times that players hopefully talk about, it makes SE realize "oh wait, people don't want to play this role??? why???".

Hopefully I can SGE with some groups here soon, until then~~

Thank you for creating this thread.

Now before I begin, personally I love this game, the story, the world and community are unique and a strong part of what keeps me enthralled.

However, at the same time it is disheartening to read how some players in the community who perhaps main tanks are so swift to dismiss the grievances of a significant portion of the player base and labeling it as "simply having a whine" is unctuous facile.

The issues faced by healers in FFXIV are glaringly obvious even to a novice player such as me. I observed how low the skill floor is when it comes to healing in FFXIV. There is simply too much homogenization between all four healers.

Sure, as a WHM you can pump out high HPS and as a SGE or SCH you can be excellent at proactive mitigation.

The way healers play seems clumsy or hurriedly put together with so much unnecessary button bloat. There is no real rotation - you spam 1 as your basic attack spell, hit 2 for the dot every 30 second and then throw out a heal or barrier.

The toolkit lacks synergy especially when you examine WHM – why is free cure still a thing? Why must we have 3 different buttons for what does a single target heal? Why shouldn’t the same button be updated with II and II with the added benefit as you level up / or to suit content?

Staying with WHM which begins its journey as a conjurer – someone who invokes the powers of the elementals to maim and mend - by the time you level to 90, you notice that your only elemental based spells are a dot, stone and maybe benison if you consider the name and the water animation.

Why not dispense with the pretense of WHM being a “pure healer” and returning it to its elementalist roots?

Another issue is that the level of outgoing damage you need to heal in content is just too low and heavily scripted which means it is completely avoidable.

There seems to be as every run is a mad dash from wall to wall with no thought or no need for crowd control despite "sleep" being in our role action bar. Most mobs stop auto attacking when casting abilities which are completely avoidable and frankly trivialize the risk of mob pulls and leave healers within nothing to do but spam 1 repeatedly.

Healing throughput is too strong (I know this sounds counterintuitive) but that is how it feels to me.

Add to this the potential for non-healers to have some off healing or in the case of certain jobs extremely effective sustained self-healing which is analogous rendering a healer redundant in the party.

TLDR: The Healer strike is entirely justified.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Please make healing more challenging and rewarding.

I really miss the days where a strong healer meant something in an MMO.

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It still does! In WoW, that is.

This is still going on? You do realise your strike is rendered moot entirely by the trust system right?

And then also people who don't frequent forums at all will be there for the trials.

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Originally Posted by Aravell

You know, it warms the heart to see so many people coming into threads with a premise that they disagree with and mock everyone who agrees with the OP.

Truly the greatest MMO community in the known universe, WoW could never. :)

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The great community that harasses new players if they don't follow the rules of discord servers they are unaware of and are toxic to anyone who ever has a criticism of their comfort game? Lol.