Gender locked race?

By the way, would a male Viera be wearing high heels?

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Originally Posted by linay

By the way, would a male Viera be wearing high heels?

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The females do because that's how their feet are structured, similar to a bunny standing on its hind legs. Because, you know, Viera are bunnies. Going by That Concept Art™, the males have the same foot structure, so it stands to reason that any footwear they'll come with should offer similar support.
Namely, high heels.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

The females do because that's how their feet are structured, similar to a bunny standing on its hind legs. Because, you know, Viera are bunnies. Going by That Concept Art™, the males have the same foot structure, so it stands to reason that any footwear they'll come with should offer similar support.
Namely, high heels.

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Concept art shows that the males don't actually have the heel. So it might be less about support and more regards to their culture.

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Concept art shows that the males don't actually have the heel. So it might be less about support and more regards to their culture.

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That's because the devs are cowards

And to be fair, not all Viera wear the heels in FF XII. If they go barefoot they don't need them. But since Fran is out and about she wears them for protection I'm assuming. :v

It looks to me like the Viera in XIV might have normal feet though. They might just have high heels as their racial gear.

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Originally Posted by Lacan

It looks to me like the Viera in XIV might have normal feet though. They might just have high heels as their racial gear.

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I really hope they don't tbh. The beastly feet are of the few traits that truly separates them from being literally "a hyur with-" so the less they have in common, the better.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

The females do because that's how their feet are structured, similar to a bunny standing on its hind legs. Because, you know, Viera are bunnies. Going by That Concept Art™, the males have the same foot structure, so it stands to reason that any footwear they'll come with should offer similar support.
Namely, high heels.

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Is it high heels at that point, or just normal shoes?

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Is it high heels at that point, or just normal shoes?

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Still high heels. Whether or not the wearer's feet naturally support that structure is a different matter

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Originally Posted by Gwenorai

Concept art shows that the males don't actually have the heel. So it might be less about support and more regards to their culture.

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Actually, concept art shows them with digitigrade feet (heel off the ground), just not wearing heeled shoes to "support" it - which makes much more sense to me anyway, for both genders. They shouldn't have evolved that foot shape if they can't naturally support themselves on it.

I also suspect heels would interfere with a proper digitigrade gait rather than support it. From trying it out, it feels like your heels need to be able to move up and down, not have a heel spike keeping it X distance off the ground.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

I really hope they don't tbh. The beastly feet are of the few traits that truly separates them from being literally "a hyur with-" so the less they have in common, the better.

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Well they did mention they were working on redesigning head gear for Viera (though I feel they said the same for Au Ra?), but made no mention on feet. So the high heels will likely be exclusive to RSE.

it’s March.

i’m gonna make it

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Originally Posted by Fredco191

it’s March.

i’m gonna make it

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less than 22 days feels like christmas countdown >_<

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

less than 22 days feels like christmas countdown >_<

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I just lump it into work-weeks now.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Actually, concept art shows them with digitigrade feet (heel off the ground), just not wearing heeled shoes to "support" it - which makes much more sense to me anyway, for both genders. They shouldn't have evolved that foot shape if they can't naturally support themselves on it.

I also suspect heels would interfere with a proper digitigrade gait rather than support it. From trying it out, it feels like your heels need to be able to move up and down, not have a heel spike keeping it X distance off the ground.

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Aside from 12 the official viera concept art shows them wearing standard boots and shoes just as often as barefoot or the heel-spike which would lead to the conclusion that it's simply a fashion choice

and you are correct if they had feet like an actual rabbit or kangaroo or whatnot. The heel would actually severely hinder their movement rather than offer support

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Actually, concept art shows them with digitigrade feet (heel off the ground), just not wearing heeled shoes to "support" it - which makes much more sense to me anyway, for both genders. They shouldn't have evolved that foot shape if they can't naturally support themselves on it.

I also suspect heels would interfere with a proper digitigrade gait rather than support it. From trying it out, it feels like your heels need to be able to move up and down, not have a heel spike keeping it X distance off the ground.

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xD That's what I meant, they still have the digi feet, but they're not wearing heels.

Every time I see this thread updated, there's a spark of hope that some new info came out, only to be crushed with an iron fist

Lol I don't see any new info being revealed this close to fanfest, but it's super close now!

3 weeks. ;.;

What do you guys make of this?

https://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxi...SheepFutureMan

A variation of Viera resembling a young elezen? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Tanama

A variation of Viera resembling a young elezen? :confused:

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Could be anything from a face type to having child models in-game but not playable.

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Originally Posted by Tanama

What do you guys make of this?

https://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxi...SheepFutureMan

A variation of Viera resembling a young elezen? :confused:

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Subrace model strikes me as the most likely, tbh, despite what others think. Face type or child npc models are possible too, but we'll see.

She had been talking about ear shapes, so quite possible she was still just referring to that - a variation with ears further apart so they look more like Elezen ears, position-wise.

I think it's best not to read too much into it. Get excited now over your ideal version of what it might mean, and you'll most likely be disappointed later. I'd rather just "wait and see" and get excited when they actually reveal things.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

She had been talking about ear shapes, so quite possible she was still just referring to that - a variation with ears further apart so they look more like Elezen ears, position-wise.

I think it's best not to read too much into it. Get excited now over your ideal version of what it might mean, and you'll most likely be disappointed later. I'd rather just "wait and see" and get excited when they actually reveal things.

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Respectfully, "young Elezen" would be a poor way to describe an ear style. There isn't exactly a huge difference between the ears of younger or older Elezen, so the "young" descriptor is a little useless there. Not to mention, I can't imagine they'd move the placement of the ears so drastically on the head, though I suppose it's possible.

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Every time I see this thread updated, there's a spark of hope that some new info came out, only to be crushed with an iron fist

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Nothing until the Tokyo Fanfest at the end of the month

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Originally Posted by Tabbs

Respectfully, "young Elezen" would be a poor way to describe an ear style. There isn't exactly a huge difference between the ears of younger or older Elezen, so the "young" descriptor is a little useless there. Not to mention, I can't imagine they'd move the placement of the ears so drastically on the head, though I suppose it's possible.

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I was thinking more of the combination of "Elezen-like" ears and Viera face, which together might give an overall appearance of an Elezen with more childlike proportions - not even necessarily looking like the in-game Elezen child models.

It seems risky to guess at what she intended. There's the language barrier, and the fact that (I assume) she wasn't able to complete her description and clarify what she meant. Without the need to keep future secrets, it could have been a very mundane conversation.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I was thinking more of the combination of "Elezen-like" ears and Viera face, which together might give an overall appearance of an Elezen with more childlike proportions - not even necessarily looking like the in-game Elezen child models.

It seems risky to guess at what she intended. There's the language barrier, and the fact that (I assume) she wasn't able to complete her description and clarify what she meant. Without the need to keep future secrets, it could have been a very mundane conversation.

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Oh, that could be it tbh. I, personally, don't think young Elezen faces stand out too much; especially since the Viera female face we've seen is already kinda young looking. That being said, I agree it's too early to clarify, but I'm far too gone too be warned lol

During the art panel they showed the concept art of the four faces, four ear types and the eight unique hairstyles. Here's a cropped screen capture of that for reference:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...76/unknown.png

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Originally Posted by Tanama

During the art panel they showed the concept art of the four faces, four ear types and the eight unique hairstyles. Here's a cropped screen capture of that for reference:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...76/unknown.png

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thanks for sharing ^^

seems like the difference in face type is the ears not the face itself so them all looking like they have the same face in the trailer is intentional at least to my untrained eye in that image

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

thanks for sharing ^^

seems like the difference in face type is the ears not the face itself so them all looking like they have the same face in the trailer is intentional at least to my untrained eye in that image

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Hmm ... No. Faces from Hairstyle #1, #2, #3 and #4 are all unique faces.
But I can already tell the ears are set to the faces. So not much "variety" there, we gotta stick with presets again.

https://i.imgur.com/HFPxjOj.png

So comparing our 4 ladies from the trailer we got from right to left... (ear checkup)
Face #1
Face #2
Face #2
Face #4

But then again we get some additional mouth, nose and eye features that alter the face a bit.. So yea

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

Hmm ... No. Faces from Hairstyle #1, #2, #3 and #4 are all unique faces.
But I can already tell the ears are set to the faces. So not much "variety" there, we gotta stick with presets again.

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If they're linked, why have faces "A-D" and ears "1-4"?

Guess i'm not going to be touching veira. no fucking way i'm gonna let people assume things about me and especially not those things.

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Originally Posted by Valdima

Guess i'm not going to be touching veira. no fucking way i'm gonna let people assume things about me and especially not those things.

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Assume what things? If you like female Viera, just play it, who cares what other players think of you.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

Assume what things? If you like female Viera, just play it, who cares what other players think of you.

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bunnygirls in my culture have long been associated with pornography, pervertedness, and masturbation. i can't really shake the connection.

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Originally Posted by Valdima

bunnygirls in my culture have long been associated with pornography, pervertedness, and masturbation. i can't really shake the connection.

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I don't know where are you from and what are your cultural associations with the bunnies but does it matter?
It's not like anyone knows where are you from in game.

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Originally Posted by Valdima

bunnygirls in my culture have long been associated with pornography, pervertedness, and masturbation. i can't really shake the connection.

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Sounds like a personal problem and 1 less bunny girl wont mean tons in the actual stampede of thousands who (don't use the forums) are hype for it.

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Originally Posted by Valdima

Guess i'm not going to be touching veira. no way i'm gonna let people assume things about me and especially not those things.

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While real-world associations are unfortunate, people aren't necessarily going to assume the same thing about in-game Viera. It's just going to be another race. If you actually want to play as a female one, and are only worried about what people in-game will think, I don't think you need to be. Just go for it, and play her in a way that doesn't support those associations.



PS. You may want to remove that swear word from your post. And Laerune from quoting it as well. It's against forum rules and can get your post deleted because of it.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The amount of likes that a post gets around these parts is largely irrelevant. Only a small portion of the overall community even bothers to post here in the first place. It is also very easy for particular posts to be brigaded by echo chambers.

Some of the most highly upvoted posts on this forum, after all, are along the lines of 'BLU SUCKS PLS DELETE'.



So everybody else has to resort to using workarounds to get what they want, but you need to be catered to specifically or else you'll take your leave of the game? I'm in the camp where I'd sooner see both Viera and Hrothgar added with no gender lock at all to better appease every player. Yet you're really not helping your case by pushing your current arguments.

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"It's not a valid unless you agree with MY opinion."

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Originally Posted by MrKimper

"It's not a valid unless you agree with MY opinion."

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That isn't at all what was stated in the text that you quoted.

Quite the opposite, in fact.

Art of a G'raha Tia minion was shown in the community stream, lending more credibility to the later leaks that mentioned Crystal Tower - and genderlocked races.