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06-17-2011, 05:21 AM
Takahime

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I don't think there's anything in these changes that would actually *encourage* a ranged attacker to close distance.

Auto attack provides free TP to the attacker, as an archer Id take whatever I could soak up. So they are encouraging it for anyone that wants extra TP.
06-17-2011, 05:32 AM
Lerris

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Originally Posted by Takahime

So it was just confirmed that Casters get melee only Auto Attack. Still feel like its good design, or more garbage down the chute?

Actually, it's reassuring. Ranged attackers are getting consistent treatment.
I imagine they tried it your way first, and discovered, while testing the system, that it is very broken, so came up with melee autoattack as a fix.
06-17-2011, 05:32 AM
Sorel

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Originally Posted by Takahime

Auto attack provides free TP to the attacker, as an archer Id take whatever I could soak up. So they are encouraging it for anyone that wants extra TP.

Who's to say that Archer attacks won't generate TP also. Mages casting spells too.
06-17-2011, 05:36 AM
Reinheart

I say for those talking about archers, and mages AA and stuff just wait till it's released. It's Matsui who's working on the battle, he made FFXI better, he knows what players wants, I'm sure he will get it right so most of us will be happy with the results. (can't say eveyrone, since someone always has to bit**)
06-17-2011, 06:09 AM
Xenor

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

I say for those talking about archers, and mages AA and stuff just wait till it's released. It's Matsui who's working on the battle, he made FFXI better, he knows what players wants, I'm sure he will get it right so most of us will be happy with the results. (can't say eveyrone, since someone always has to bit**)

All I see so far is a copy and paste from XI. They should be improving on ARC not having auto attack in XI, not copy and pasting. But like I said earlier, make auto attack toggleable, for everyone. Problem solved. Have a global setting in configuration so you can set your default and then another option if you wish to change it for a specific mob. That gets rid of all inconveniences and keeps everyone happy.
06-17-2011, 06:13 AM
Reinheart

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Originally Posted by Xenor

All I see so far is a copy and paste from XI. They should be improving on ARC not having auto attack in XI, not copy and pasting. But like I said earlier, make auto attack toggleable, for everyone. Problem solved. Have a global setting in configuration so you can set your default and then another option if you wish to change it for a specific mob. That gets rid of all inconveniences and keeps everyone happy.

Yep adding a toggle for AA is one way to do it, click on icon once for archer, mage jobs once turns on AA click again turns off. We'll see...
06-17-2011, 06:26 AM
DurtiMonkeyToe

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Originally Posted by Xenor

All I see so far is a copy and paste from XI. They should be improving on ARC not having auto attack in XI, not copy and pasting. But like I said earlier, make auto attack toggleable, for everyone. Problem solved. Have a global setting in configuration so you can set your default and then another option if you wish to change it for a specific mob. That gets rid of all inconveniences and keeps everyone happy.

How do you improve a class that is already OP?
06-17-2011, 08:18 AM
kukurumei

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

How do you improve a class that is already OP?

It's expect that ARC users want their GARRR.

the thought of making arc "just another melee class" must be terrifying.

It is getting copy and pasted from FF11, which is not the best, but not the worse. Better to have something that works and hope for it to get better then having something that doesn't work.
06-17-2011, 08:38 AM
Shikyo

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Originally Posted by Takahime

That is just a cop out answer. What about these guys growing the game further? This is a step back in every sense. A ranged class gets auto attack only to a melee weapon, that does not currently exist, instead of auto attack on the ranged weapon they are using. That just sounds so stupid I cant even think of expressing to anyone that they should play this game. Why? Its just poor design because they want to take an easy way out with new changes coming.

Fine it fits you, I dont care, I just wont play this game anymore, and I hate this community of clinging fanboys that want to take game design backwards. It is 2011, 9 months after launch by the way. Game is still free and still sucks. This is just more garbage down the chute.

Hello nice to meet you Ms. and good bye have a nice trip emo queen.
Why would any archer not want to have control over when they loose? that sounds dumb to me, but opinions are like aholes as they say, you gave yours now wipe and please flush before you leave! XD
06-17-2011, 08:42 AM
Shikyo

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Originally Posted by Takahime

The real purpose of giving archer melee auto attack is because they are trying to shoehorn in code and this was their only fast solution.

The reason you just stated is ridiculous. We should stay out of range of a mob, hence being ranged DPS. If a mobs in our face we are pulling too much enmity and should let a tank to take it or bind and run.

Also Ms. Taka archer with AA doesnt change much if you stay back its the same as it was.
Why are you still posting I thought you Emo quite?

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