Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

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Originally Posted by Rochetm

If time of day has an effect on chances of success then your game is broken. FFXIV is broken... the lag issues need to get fixed. I am willing to give it more time but at some point I just wont be able to take it anymore. My guess is many others have had it at this point.

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I cleared Titan EX with a guy on a laptop with a wireless connection from Taiwan. He was lagging horrifically and died every two pulls or so. He still put out 260 dps over the full fight and survived for most of it after compensating for the lag.

Much excuses in this thread.

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Originally Posted by rappa

i obtained my second weapon :D

Others "elitist players" have 4.

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So I'm an elitist simply because I have my 4th EX weapon? Wat?

There's lag in every single online game, don't tell me there isn't one that doesn't because if you say there is, you're dreaming. Again this isn't JUST ffxiv. People are just fustrated from this fight and it can be understandable to an extent, however it is beatable by people who have lag or similar issues. Unless your lag is so bad that you can see people warping or something similar from your screen, you should be able to beat titan ex.

It is understandable if you don't find it fun or think it's a "cheap" difficulty or whatever. But understand blaming lag even if it were true doesn't change anything and certainly saying how this is an ffxiv problem only is baloney.

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Originally Posted by omniwaink

Yes, let's nerf the only semi-difficult content in the game so everyone can do it. Because, you know, 2.1 had nothing for casual players.

If Titan extreme isn't "fun" for you, you probably just suck. It's 10x more involved than Garuda and Ifrit XM, which for me = fun.

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So is Turn 4 but its just a different kind of involved. Don't get me wrong, I've come to love titan ex. It took a while of me sucking, then not sucking, then being with people who also didn't suck, but I've grown to love it. Its like an old, crabby neighbor that lives next door. At first, all you want to do is slash his tires. But after a while, you look forward to his morning complaints and bad breath. It gives you a sense of comfort.

That being said, I could also love new neighbors that require strategy and not learning a script.

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Originally Posted by omniwaink

Yes, let's nerf the only semi-difficult content in the game so everyone can do it. Because, you know, 2.1 had nothing for casual players.

If Titan extreme isn't "fun" for you, you probably just suck. It's 10x more involved than Garuda and Ifrit XM, which for me = fun.

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Sad how you don't make the time to read anything in the post regarding my experience. Just assume I suck because I made a thread ranting on terrible design. Most ignorant thing I've read thus far. Truth be told I clear this far more than you even do, so don't go throwing around the suck card because your mad someone insulted your titan.

after all the people not having issues with these 3 fights are done. 8-10 weeks. they will turn it down. So the rest can get it.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Every developer, honestly - almost every game ever released involves mechanics listed. Remember pits in mario games? Spikes in Megaman games? Yeah instant death mechanics aren't new, just people being overly sensitive to it now.

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Not in RPG games they weren't. I played nearly all of the earlier Final Fantasy games and never once were their pits or deadly traps on the ground I had to quickly dodge or I died instantly. And if there was, they were very rare and certainly not at the core of the over-all game play as is the case here.

So you are right in the sense these types of mechanics aren't new. But they were typically found in action/platform games. They weren't found in RPG games. And if they are going to start trying to turn RPGs into wannabe action games, it's time they re-named them to action games. Because when I buy an RPG game that's not the kind of game play I am expecting or want.

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Originally Posted by Dale

Not in RPG games they weren't. I played nearly all of the earlier Final Fantasy games and never once were their pits or deadly traps on the ground I had to quickly dodge or I died instantly. And if there was, they were very rare and certainly not at the core of the over-all game play as is the case here.

So you are right in the sense these types of mechanics aren't new. But they were typically found in action/platform games. They weren't found in RPG games. And if they are going to start trying to turn RPGs into wannabe action games, it's time they re-named them to action games. Because when I buy an RPG game that's not the kind of game play I am expecting or want.

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They already have ARPG's, and I think that's what we've got here now. FFXIV ARR is an MMOARPG, I also wish they would just call it such and advertise it as such. I'm here for now, I'll be around for awhile, but I am not deeply in love with it.

I enjoy Titan EX, it really isn't hard, only more memorizing patterns. What is not fun is watching people die to first set of plumes, or unable to dodge anything because of one excuse or another. Half the time I see people get hit by circle bombs, because its somehow hard to see the first bomb drop, and run to it after it explodes. People need to stop making excuses and get better at mechanics, you'll find the fight is a lot more "fun" then you thought.

My comment isn't directed at people with unfixable internet issues, but these people should realize their limitations and not blame the game mechanics which make for a good/dynamic boss fight.

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Originally Posted by Traek

I enjoy Titan EX, it really isn't hard, only more memorizing patterns. . . People need to stop making excuses and get better at mechanics, you'll find the fight is a lot more "fun" then you thought.

My comment isn't directed at people with unfixable internet issues, but these people should realize their limitations and not blame the game mechanics which make for a good/dynamic boss fight.

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Did you just call simple, repetitive, easy mechanics "fun"? This is the root of this issue; for the eleven thousandth time, it's not about hard or not hard, excuses or not excuses. I'm happy people enjoy the fight, enjoy winning it and whatever else the enjoy about it, as that is subjective and not everyone will love everything... but in this thread people have, with a straight face, called this a well-designed fight. That is beyond me.

Nothing against your post in particular even though it is the one I quoted... I picked it for the "people making excuses" line... as stated before, by me and others, even people clearing this fight regularly may not like it.