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09-22-2014, 04:30 PM
OrangeFryingPan

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Originally Posted by Jamesy

VOLDEMORT!!!

Do not speak his name!

In other news that actually matters, I agree with this thread. Fuzzy cat boys, yes please.
09-22-2014, 04:39 PM
Radacci

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Originally Posted by Mjytresz

This game was developed in Japan.
The game is supported by Japanese people in Japan.
The Japanese community is the largest community so far.
The Japanese community, as a result of the last few points, gets a lot more than the rest of us.

So let's just pretend like a Japanese game that's supported by Japanese people in Japan with a large Japanese community now has to cater to the rest of the world in every facet.

On that note, why can't we have Hot Dogs and Burritos as food items?
Oh right...

EDIT: Oh right, it's bad manners to compare one bodily function to another bodily function. My mistake.

What does Eorzea have to do with Japan?
It doesn't matter where the game is developed, Eorzea isn't Japan, and they don't need to stick to Japanese traditions, or whatever.
If people want body hair as an option, there's just one reason to not do it, and that's the resource stuff...and that's not really a reason either, cause like ppl said, it could be done with just a texture, like the tattoos we have.
09-25-2014, 03:22 PM
Shioban

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Originally Posted by Radacci

It doesn't matter where the game is developed, Eorzea isn't Japan, and they don't need to stick to Japanese traditions, or whatever.

You're completely missing the point, not to mention being ignorant to the fact that the developers were most likely born and also live in Japan, working in a Japanese frame of mind, therefore are going to stick to stereotypical Japanese traits, which for the most part involves avoiding body-hair on cartoon/game characters.

Saying "That doesn't matter" is extremely ignorant, of course it matters, it's their entire life, it's their way of thinking, their up-bringing, worldly influence and also their culture. To say it plays no part in their creative development process is completely pants on head stupid.

If you're used to a certain convention, you're simply going to do it without much thought or concern, that's the way it's done.
For the large part characters in games/media don't have body hair which is why they don't have any so far.

Does this mean they can't/won't add it?

No, this is always an open option, they're not scared of body hair, its just a convention.
But it's a pretty sure and solid reason as to why it wasn't an option in the first place.
10-02-2014, 02:26 AM
Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.
10-02-2014, 02:37 AM
Toodles

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You guys don't care about clipping issues anyway so it wouldn't really matter if it affected some gear options.

Thank you for considering it though!

I firmly believe a majority of players would prefer an entirely new option over like 2 new hairstyles we'd get instead...

I think you should prioritize differently.

The new hair styles would likely clip harder than body hair would even, so why does it matter?

Like the guy below me said, just texture map it...

Any chance we can get a cosmetic patch with more than a couple hairstyles?
10-02-2014, 02:37 AM
HakuroDK

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

Speaking technically, wouldn't body hair just be a texture map over the body mesh? That's how The Sims does body hair and it never really affects any clothing designs at all.

I mean of course, by doing it that way, the body hair will essentially look painted on, but if it's done right, it should be fine. And hell, while you're at it, you could even start working on a similar thing for body tattoos.
10-02-2014, 02:45 AM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

Interfere with armor design.. a lot of work...

Confirmed here, 3d chest hair - pre-order for your Gorilla chest today :D

Its nice to know it is on a to check out list though, thanks for the update ~
10-02-2014, 02:51 AM
SDaemon

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Interfere with armor design.. a lot of work...

Confirmed here, 3d chest hair - pre-order for your Gorilla chest today :D

Its nice to know it is on a to check out list though, thanks for the update ~

Um, nothing confirmed except they will be looking into it....you might very well end up with a bad paint job tattooed on your pecs :/
10-02-2014, 02:53 AM
Shougun

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

Um, nothing confirmed except they will be looking into it....you might very well end up with a bad paint job tattooed on your pecs :/

I was joking about the 3d chest hair ^^

I could see a bad paint job texture happening lol, a few of SE's beards have texture seams in them. Hope not though.
10-02-2014, 03:35 AM
Meshico

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

Speaking technically, wouldn't body hair just be a texture map over the body mesh? That's how The Sims does body hair and it never really affects any clothing designs at all.

I mean of course, by doing it that way, the body hair will essentially look painted on, but if it's done right, it should be fine. And hell, while you're at it, you could even start working on a similar thing for body tattoos.

The Leather Harness Shows the chest, so that would change things a bit eh?

But at least they are looking into it :D
10-02-2014, 03:39 AM
WHS

How about while were at it adding body hair for female characters? You laugh but I bet there are some that would like this option as well.
10-02-2014, 04:12 AM
Shane

what about lumberjack beards? I want to see more manly beards
10-02-2014, 04:16 AM
Yamimarik

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

Well it's not a flat out no, and it's a response period! So thank you very much Grekumah for taking the time to respond to this ^.^ Here's hoping that it can be worked out and be implemented. Thanks again.
10-02-2014, 04:35 AM
myahele

Wow i honestly never thought we'd get a response since this is a year old thread. Glad to know the devs are aware of our request and it's at least on thier to do list
10-02-2014, 05:02 AM
KingOfAbyss

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Originally Posted by Toodles

(any word on Atma, please?)

Yes. By the time I've monitored you being on forum crying for it, that time spent here, by then, you would be close to have them all now.

Seriously, as mush as I am like you, a customer, and that we can be entitled to ask anything, I think you must have been a bit too spoiled in other aspects of your life.

You are simply asking too much on many of your post.

Just as an example, in a thread where we are supposed to write down one question per post:

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1. Can you please add Signs in the Mob-List?
2. Can you please make Atma's easier to obtain in 2.4?
3. Can we have our Companions out during Queue in 2.4?
4. Can we please Frontline with FC members or friends who aren't in our same GC in 2.4?
5. Status on Musketeer (2.5 please!)?
6. Status on Golden Saucer (2.5 please!)?
7. Improvement to Egi Appearances in 2.4?
8. Skin Color change at Aesthetician in 2.4?
9. Can we please have a few Arenas to duel friends in 2.4?
10. Can we please have Extreme Difficulty Dungeons? 4-man's too easy.
11. Savage Difficulty CT/ST?

And you are using a thread to ask a question unrelated to the OP's suggestion, even after making an Atma thread on your own.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Up-on-Atma-now

I've been working as a Customer Service for 20+ years, and, to be honest, I wouldn't mind losing your sub. 1.0 or not.

Chill out, get that Zenith on, and have some grind, like everyone else.

May the RNG God be by your side for a while.
10-02-2014, 06:14 AM
Toodles

^I have nearly 3 full sets of Atma, the request isn't for my sake. And asking politely isn't crying but thanks for the insult.
10-02-2014, 07:15 AM
Mooserocka33

I really think they have a lot to add before body hair is even on the list of wants. People don't even like it in real life
10-02-2014, 07:28 AM
Purplenum

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

Nipples on men too, please.
10-02-2014, 07:40 AM
Heghmoh

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

pls no. I have no need for more hairstyles. I already have more than enough to choose from. Gimme dat Zangief Chest hair option and I don't care if you never add another hairstyle again.
10-02-2014, 07:43 AM
Heghmoh

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Originally Posted by Mooserocka33

I really think they have a lot to add before body hair is even on the list of wants. People don't even like it in real life

You don't even like it in real life /= People don't even like it in real life.

How many perfectly clean shaven men do you see walking around? Not many. And if they are, they're likely a swimmer or part of a very small demographic.

GIMME DAT CHEST HAIR!
10-02-2014, 07:45 AM
Mugiawara

Adding chest hair is difficult. I laughed, hard.
Oh well, I am not surprised for this response.
The person who made the topic about the Miqote nose being an option to be darker like the Mithra's...
we got some whacky excuse there too.
10-02-2014, 10:22 AM
Silverharp

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

Just as long as it doesn't look painted on, I'm good.~
And hopefully there would be new gear that would put emphesis on the chest.
10-02-2014, 10:34 AM
Folsom

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Originally Posted by Silverharp

Just as long as it doesn't look painted on, I'm good.~
And hopefully there would be new gear that would put emphesis on the chest.

A treasure trail would be nice, even if we never get to see where it leads, yea know? Especially on my Roe.
10-02-2014, 10:36 AM
myahele

I have a feeling it'll look painted on and not quite like folks have in mind. See the picture a few pages back. Either way, its nice to have more options
10-02-2014, 10:40 AM
Silverharp

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Originally Posted by Folsom

A treasure trail would be nice, even if we never get to see where it leads, yea know? Especially on my Roe.

Wow, I'm ashamed that I completely forgot about treasure trails...
10-02-2014, 10:44 AM
Shioban

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Adding chest hair is difficult. I laughed, hard.
Oh well, I am not surprised for this response.
The person who made the topic about the Miqote nose being an option to be darker like the Mithra's...
we got some whacky excuse there too.

It is actually difficult.

They're having to add either another layer of geometry like hair and or add in new skin texture maps.

It's not as simple as "Today I'll make some body hair, it'l be easy as pie".

It's as much a creative process as making any other piece of gear, it takes time, adjustment and effort.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

So adding a bit of hair to the chest area is actually as hard to do as making a piece of gear.
Hmm, the more you know. I agree though, I don't think it'll be all nice and neat like our head hair.
It'll be painted probably...don't get mad if that happens because SE likes to be lazy lol.
I can imagine the under arm hair will be all odd looking LOL!

Well /technically/ it's painted, but that doesn't mean it's an easy task. Any art takes time and effort.
I'm not saying that you're disagreeing that it takes time, I thought I'd just explain why.

Essentially it'll be three layers of texture maps (usually), sometimes other maps such as displacement maps are used.

Diffuse = "Painted Colours"
Specular = "Shiny/Wet Effect"
Normal/Bump = "Fake 3D effect, to give the illusion of a highly detailed 3D object"

A normal map being where you can apply a texture that takes into account the lights in the scene to create the illusion, the geometry is completely unchanged but it gives the appearance of a highly detailed 3D object.

http://www.independentdeveloper.com/...rmalmapper.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_usouUbAJKE...malMapping.jpg
10-02-2014, 10:50 AM
Mugiawara

So adding a bit of hair to the chest area is actually as hard to do as making a piece of gear.
Hmm, the more you know. I agree though, I don't think it'll be all nice and neat like our head hair.
It'll be painted probably...don't get mad if that happens because SE likes to be lazy lol.
I can imagine the under arm hair will be all odd looking LOL!
10-02-2014, 11:24 AM
Folsom

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

I might grudgingly accept that if there are more good short hair options for Roegadyn that aren't top knots. You know, better buzz cuts, slightly longer than buzz, maybe with some styling on the front.

But still, body hair, because the chances of getting a good hairstyle for Roe is practically nil when all of them come out looking like Fabio or... weird. Except the Faux-hawk. That one is ok.
10-02-2014, 04:05 PM
Cyrusskorrey

i eagerly await for the day that my roe can come home from a long day of adventuring rip of his clothes expose his hairy chest walk over to his bed and pass the fudge out in a single falling forward motion

on that not i would love to have the /doze animation that roes do when logging off in an INN. epic face plant into pillow
10-02-2014, 04:47 PM
PrincezzPeach

I think chest body hair would be a awesome option to have for our male players!! :)
10-02-2014, 10:39 PM
synesthetic

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Originally Posted by Toodles

You guys don't care about clipping issues anyway so it wouldn't really matter if it affected some gear options.

Good lord, if it were about clipping issues, I could just imagine the horrors people would have. Beware the subligars!

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Originally Posted by Cyrusskorrey

i eagerly await for the day that my roe can come home from a long day of adventuring rip of his clothes expose his hairy chest walk over to his bed and pass the fudge out in a single falling forward motion

on that not i would love to have the /doze animation that roes do when logging off in an INN. epic face plant into pillow

I had to look up this epic face plant.
You guys need bigger beds.
10-02-2014, 10:56 PM
odintius

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

And how about looking into more beard options too while your at it >.> please!
10-03-2014, 12:51 AM
Daniolaut

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs. We expect adding body hair will take a lot of work, so for now we'd like to prioritize adding new hairstyles that are being requested.

Maybe fix male miqo'te tails and bring out gear for miqo'te with the tail opening properly before bringing out more stuff that can be messed up looking?

Also, adjust the "Character Camera" setting so when people rotate their camera you dont see someone spinning around without their legs moving?

I know this game became a low budget game after 1.0 but can we at least have a little more quality over quantity ... just a little????
10-03-2014, 02:41 AM
Rex

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Originally Posted by Toodles

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You guys don't care about clipping issues anyway so it wouldn't really matter if it affected some gear options.

Thank you for considering it though!

I firmly believe a majority of players would prefer an entirely new option over like 2 new hairstyles we'd get instead... I think you should prioritize differently.

The new hair styles would likely clip harder than body hair would even, so why does it matter?

Like the guy below me said, just texture map it...

Any chance we can get a cosmetic patch with more than a couple hairstyles?

What about new facial features & tattoo options (bodily tattoos!)?

Or changing skin color at the Aesthetician.

(any word on Atma, please?)

The demands! jeez!
10-03-2014, 02:46 AM
Gramul

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We're looking into this, but body hair would be a completely new element, and there is a possibility that it would affect some gear designs.

Not that I feel particularly passionate about it, but why would it have to be a new element?
I don't think anyone's asking for anything more than a texture and bump map for exposed skin.
10-03-2014, 02:49 AM
Shioban

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Originally Posted by Purplenum

Nipples on *Roegadyns/Miqo'te and Lalafells too, please.

Fixed that for you, hyurs have them.

http://puu.sh/bWyGR/62be272a91.jpg
http://puu.sh/bWyLe/cff2c89e72.jpg
10-03-2014, 03:08 AM
Monsalvato

Really hope they can do this if not for 2.5 at least for 3.0.
Can't wait for my Roegadyn to finally feel a man with some sexy body hair, nomnomnom
10-03-2014, 03:09 AM
Monsalvato

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Not that I feel particularly passionate about it, but why would it have to be a new element?
I don't think anyone's asking for anything more than a texture and bump map for exposed skin.

^ this :-D
10-04-2014, 08:52 PM
zlotjko

More options, always a +
I would not set it as a high priority thing, but more customization can't be a bad thing.
But personally, i would set higher priority on things that are more visible (hair, beards, fat slider)
I really like how my roe looks as a WAR, but on the MNK it just looks like a fat monkey (can't wait to get an armor that doesn't discriminate people with big bones)...
10-05-2014, 04:34 AM
Rain_Art

we dont need body hair, we need more boobies :(

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