So...gonna re-release previous PvP series rewards for crystals or NOT?

I support this request too...I forgot about some emotes I had missed from previous PVP passes and frames.

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I support this request too...I forgot about some emotes I had missed from previous PVP passes and frames.

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What one player in your match or Duty doing the Linkshell right back at the (Drink)Shakers who don't have the Absolutely Best Emote(Linkshell) when it was it active.

https://media.tenor.com/JKmvX6rE8uQA...ing-comeon.gif

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

for the most part im glad ive stayed for every reward. (lets be real i was gonna get it anyway while farming alpha wolf) but also. i discarded 2 items that prevented me from turning my pvp glams into a set. (the ugly helmets) because i had no idea back then theyde do this.. why is there no way to redeem them or buy them back

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Its actually insane to me that PVP gear wasn't made to be storable in the Armoire

Well at least now all of those sets are glam dresser sets and can be condensed into one single item each. But the lack of calamity salvagers for them is... sloppy.

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Originally Posted by Valence

Well at least now all of those sets are glam dresser sets and can be condensed into one single item each. But the lack of calamity salvagers for them is... sloppy.

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The problem is how packing them into sets interacts with dyes, which is a mess.

Still trying to bring this issue to attention in some small hope Live Letter Addresses it

bump in anticipation of LL

Unofficial translation noted yoshida said they're "thinking about unlocking past pvp rewards" which....... Did you forget your past promise? You can't say that now when we've already been waiting all this time for you to fulfill what you already claimed, yoshi-p. "Thinking about it" really isn't good enough at this point. You don't get points for this one this time.

Meanwhile the translation on the Balance outright said "They'll implement old items to purchase (finally)". The sheer inconsistencies between fan translations truly is something and it's not the first time either.

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Meanwhile the translation on the Balance outright said "They'll implement old items to purchase (finally)". The sheer inconsistencies between fan translations truly is something and it's not the first time either.

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its wild that in an international product like this, the devs don't have official english translations during a PLL (except for big expansion launches), and the community has to rely on other community members to offer a translation service for them.

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Meanwhile the translation on the Balance outright said "They'll implement old items to purchase (finally)". The sheer inconsistencies between fan translations truly is something and it's not the first time either.

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Translating Japanese is not easy. Even if you know the meaning of the word, you need to know the context of what they're saying, not just in the spoken word but in social and cultural expectations of what that word might mean. Imagine trying to translate the F word into other languages, when it can be used as any and every part of a sentence with either positive or negative connotations.

Also, the dev team just outright lies, like, constantly.

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Originally Posted by ovIm

its wild that in an international product like this, the devs don't have official english translations during a PLL (except for big expansion launches), and the community has to rely on other community members to offer a translation service for them.

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You're not wrong. If goddamn Another Eden can have a monthly English live letter every month with an English-speaking community manager every month, SE can spring for some subtitles.

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Originally Posted by ovIm

its wild that in an international product like this, the devs don't have official english translations during a PLL (except for big expansion launches), and the community has to rely on other community members to offer a translation service for them.

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Almost 5 billion dollar company btw...

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Originally Posted by Immut

Translating Japanese is not easy. Even if you know the meaning of the word, you need to know the context of what they're saying, not just in the spoken word but in social and cultural expectations of what that word might mean. Imagine trying to translate the F word into other languages, when it can be used as any and every part of a sentence with either positive or negative connotations.

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Which is a big problem with these liveletters. When ever they go away from what's written on the slides we have first to rely on translators for it, and then hope that they get the correct intention.

I'm puzzled as to why he just blurts out this piece of info and not have it on the slide, and if they're still considering it, just don't say anything and wait till there's a clear plan for it.

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its wild that in an international product like this, the devs don't have official english translations during a PLL (except for big expansion launches), and the community has to rely on other community members to offer a translation service for them.

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This is absolutely true. If they don't want inconsistencies in what they are saying, they need to provide their own official translations, otherwise it's hard not to give rise to the argument "they only care about JP players". Having to rely on the goodwill of fans to get official information on an international game is ridiculous.

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Meanwhile the translation on the Balance outright said "They'll implement old items to purchase (finally)". The sheer inconsistencies between fan translations truly is something and it's not the first time either.

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I sincerely hope this is the translation that is correct. But I'm not holding my breath.

Regardless of what the translation actually was, it being an offhand comment and not a bullet point on the slide means we're probably not getting the option until 7.3 at the soonest

But hey, it's only been 2 and half years before they even acknowledged something that they promised to do when they made the system. Why not make it an even 3 before they commit to doing it (or yoship arbitrarily deciding that he doesn't want to)

Small single dev indie studio after all, these things take time

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I sincerely hope this is the translation that is correct. But I'm not holding my breath.

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Eventually they’ll put out a digest… those are usually very carefully translated so that their intent is clear. We had the same problem last patch with multiple translations about their housing comments, that later got clarified in the digest.

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Regardless of what the translation actually was, it being an offhand comment and not a bullet point on the slide means we're probably not getting the option until 7.3 at the soonest

But hey, it's only been 2 and half years before they even acknowledged something that they promised to do when they made the system. Why not make it an even 3 before they commit to doing it (or yoship arbitrarily deciding that he doesn't want to)

Small single dev indie studio after all, these things take time

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Two and a half? Friend, that live letter was in 2021, right before Endwalker's release. It was during the Launch PLL where they announced the release delay that they stated this would be a thing. It is much longer than two and a half now.

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Two and a half? Friend, that live letter was in 2021, right before Endwalker's release. It was during the Launch PLL where they announced the release delay that they stated this would be a thing. It is much longer than two and a half now.

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Honestly, can you blame me for losing count?

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Honestly, can you blame me for losing count?

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Not at all, its absurd that its taken this long and the fact that two different translations provide a different picture is just as annoying as the fact they waited this long.

Reddit discord: "They're thinking about it"
The Balance: "They're doing it in 7.2"

Frankly, off-hand comments like that about future features should either be put on slides or not stated at all during a PLL when they encourage their international community to watch them as well.

A really relevant, previous, example: the Minimalist Interior (then known as "toggling pillars") and Upgradeable Interior sizes (previously called upgradeable apartments) were mentioned in 5.2's PLL Part 2 as side comments and never spoken of again until 7.1's PLL part 2. That's almost half a decade of waiting for a single feature, only one of which is live in game and isn't at all what it was mentioned to be like when first spoken of.

After over a decade of service and people playing, we should honestly expect more clarity than we're given when it comes to live letters and feature announcements. Encouraging us to watch a PLL they have no intention of making viewable outside of slides this far in to the game's life, and then making us wait for an official digest is so ridiculous.

Seems that the digest is done by the Community Team this time.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2379702881 - Also on the Lodestone frontpage.

They talk about PVP at around 16:35.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2379702881?t=0h16m35s

"They've received tons of requests for previous series rewards, and the dev team is taking that into consideration."

So it sounds like they haven't made any final decisions on previous rewards. Still begs as to why they would show the slide all those years ago if they now are still considering it.

They are taking "into consideration" what they have previously promised when they originally announced this content????
https://c.tenor.com/JiejlbCTknsAAAAd/tenor.gif

https://imgur.com/SxEXgq8

Seems they did indeed completely forgot what they already said.

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Seems they did indeed completely forgot what they already said.

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Not surprising. We have a bunch of third string devs filling in to replace the senior and junior devs that have been whisked away to create more flops, now with Yoshi-P's name tied to it. Yoshi-P has completely checked out of FFXIV. He did say he wanted to create a game all his own, and FFXIV won't let him do that without stepping away.

The third string devs have no idea whats going on or what was promised, only handed a rough "outline" so they could regurgitate the same patch content we've had the last three expansions.

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Not surprising. We have a bunch of third string devs filling in to replace the senior and junior devs that have been whisked away to create more flops, now with Yoshi-P's name tied to it. Yoshi-P has completely checked out of FFXIV. He did say he wanted to create a game all his own, and FFXIV won't let him do that without stepping away.

The third string devs have no idea whats going on or what was promised, only handed a rough "outline" so they could regurgitate the same patch content we've had the last three expansions.

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I wish him luck trying to sell a game without the FF brand when CS3's reputation has been circling the drain for a while now and XVI had many of the same structural issues as XIV.

Absolutely ridiculous. If it takes so long for them to "consider" I really wish Yoshida would keep his mouth shut till they've decided. That way we're not waiting on years old promises just for them to turn around and "still be deciding".

Just plop them in for trophy crystals. It's not rocket science.

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and XVI had many of the same structural issues as XIV.

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It's funny, here they have the chance to show what they can do, no tech debt like in XIV. And what they end up with feels very similar to XIV. Our goal for this zone is over there, but first we need to go through this place, and to get past it we need to go through several quests, finally we can keep going towards the goal.

Also the story feels like it took several points from XIV like aether draining.

I do like the part with young Clive, should have kept the game to that part.

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Absolutely ridiculous. If it takes so long for them to "consider" I really wish Yoshida would keep his mouth shut till they've decided. That way we're not waiting on years old promises just for them to turn around and "still be deciding".

Just plop them in for trophy crystals. It's not rocket science.

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Honestly, even if it's expensive, at least it'd give us something new to do with the trophy crystals that is more than "turn into wolfmarks"

I'll be honest, I've been very demotivated from playing Crystalline Conflict due to the FOMO. I haven't played it at all after missing the linkpearl emote, it left a bitter taste in my mouth seeing it go away, but I've been waiting for them to bring it back so that I can get it before playing again, and I was banking on it, but now it seems like it's no longer a guaranty? I don't understand what the problem is. If they make it purchasable by trophy crystals I'd go back to playing Chrystalline Conflict for sure, and would play regularly.

I admit, I feel pretty betrayed by them walking back on it after promising it in the live letter a few years ago, and I'm considering whether it's still healthy for me to continue playing this game if that's how it makes me feel.

So, please bring them back as purchasable with trophy crystals. ������

Remember when the hellpup and faepup minions were ranked feast only and JP minion collectors lost their minds over it so the minions got added as achievements for assists and kills?

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Remember when the hellpup and faepup minions were ranked feast only and JP minion collectors lost their minds over it so the minions got added as achievements for assists and kills?

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Now if only they'd do the same for those ranked Feast mounts that have never been rereleased or even had their models reused...
Hell, at this point I'd pay actual $$ for the Allagan Dreadnaught or magitek chair mounts. But if they put them behind achievements, it might actually motivate me to play more PVP.

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Now if only they'd do the same for those ranked Feast mounts that have never been rereleased or even had their models reused...
Hell, at this point I'd pay actual $$ for the Allagan Dreadnaught or magitek chair mounts. But if they put them behind achievements, it might actually motivate me to play more PVP.

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Same for me, that throne chair was nice, that they are gone due to fomo, especially for newer players, is completely ridiculous...

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Remember when the hellpup and faepup minions were ranked feast only and JP minion collectors lost their minds over it so the minions got added as achievements for assists and kills?

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Lol. So much for their talk of preserving prestige. They are just hypocrites.

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Now if only they'd do the same for those ranked Feast mounts that have never been rereleased or even had their models reused...
Hell, at this point I'd pay actual $$ for the Allagan Dreadnaught or magitek chair mounts. But if they put them behind achievements, it might actually motivate me to play more PVP.

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I mean.. if they were to make a comeback, that would be the fairest way to do it given how much PVP has changed since they were originally released. This way you actually have to put in the effort -- although I do agree that there needs to be more stuff in the Wolve's Den for Crystals and Marks too, just not THAT stuff.

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Lol. So much for their talk of preserving prestige. They are just hypocrites.

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The jewelry that you used to get for placing in a tier (liike Gold Wolf Pack Ring) or whatever it was called, is now available for Crystals from the Wolves Den vendor and NOBODY is out here losing their mind...

Oh but that's just JEWELRY, that doesn't count, you say? How about when 1.0 players freaked out over White Raven earrings being given away as part of an event?

How about when you used to earn Wolf Collars purely for placement, and it took awhile to earn enough to buy a weapon? I've got 150+ of the damn things chilling in my inventory now.

I've got a Gaelicap, something you can only get if you win one of the contests (I won a furnishing design -- the indoor bamboo garden). If they put that hat in the mog station or as a mog tome reward or whatever tomorrow, I could not care less. Other people having an item that i worked hard for doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'd like for them to earn it somehow of course but at the end of the day it's just a game and they're just pixels. Doesn't stop us from wanting to see them make a comeback though :)

I don't see why people would be upset if they make the previous season rewards obtainable again since that's what they said they'd do in the first place. I haven't seen anything from the JP side on this either, and the fact that Yoshi P. mentioned it again this last live letter makes me think they're probably asking for them to come back just like we are.

Then there's things like the pre-order bonus moogle cap that showed up as a cash shop item... except the pom is a heart! It's DIFFERENT GUYS! 3 additional gobbue mounts but they aren't the same as the 1.23 reward mount pre-arr!

They are indeed asking when the rewards will make a return.

"previous Series rewards will be gradually be made available for exchange"
from the digest! LETS GOOO