It's so Awesome to See All the Cool Stuff Are Now in Cashshop.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

Complain all you like about the "salt", but the "saltlords" aren't the ones siding with corpos.

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Not complaining about the salt I am collecting it. You people are a gold mine.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

Complain all you like about the "salt", but the "saltlords" aren't the ones siding with corpos.

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I dunno, they seem to keep paying and buying stuff off the cash shop. Sounds like support to me!

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Not complaining about the salt I am collecting it. You people are a gold mine.

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don't collect too much of the salt, you're going to turn into bacon oink oink

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Originally Posted by Koros

don't collect too much of the salt, you're going to turn into bacon oink oink

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Using to produce high quality hams.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Just Meme.
The Best and more intelligent Rebuttal lol

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Our memes are in response to a college essay that contains so little intelligence that it is practically a meme itself. If said essay was well thought-out and/or wasn't someone trying to simp for a company that couldn't care less if they existed, maybe I'd be more inclined to respond differently. What's the problem?

Doesn't FanFest do like, digital tickets or whatever that has items attached to it? Or are they not doing that this time and instead using the mogstation shop?

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

Our memes are in response to a college essay that contains so little intelligence that it is practically a meme itself. If said essay was well thought-out and/or wasn't someone trying to simp for a company that couldn't care less if they existed, maybe I'd be more inclined to respond differently. What's the problem?

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sry, market failure and regulation are too hard for jojoya to understand, u must understand no bulli they just watched a video on capitalism and freedom pls understand

So long thread say hi too your fellow similar posts who exists in nothingness now.

Here's a good meme from one year ago:

https://i.imgur.com/51AMert.png

Courtesy of /r/shitpostxiv

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV..._control_over/

Title: "Inb4 someone tells me Yoshi-P has no control over Mogstation"

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

Did I miss something that, summer event stuff is straight up in the cash shop?

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Uh? Last year's items? They've been doing that ever since Moonfire is a thing. They always add last year's stuff to the cash shop. Wish it was just earnable in-game, but this isn't anything new. Shouldn't be surprising.

Also, it's been a while, but wasn't it confirmed that CBUIII doesn't actually control the cash shop? Wasn't it someone else in charge? I thought at some point they said it was something like "The Mog Station Lady"? I honestly don't remember the actual facts though.

Wait... So There Is White But No Black?!? What About Orange? Indigo? Or Was That "Purple" Indigo or Violet...? I NEED MOAR!!!

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

https://i.imgur.com/51AMert.png

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The average mogstation defender: ^

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Uh? Last year's items? They've been doing that ever since Moonfire is a thing. They always add last year's stuff to the cash shop. Wish it was just earnable in-game, but this isn't anything new. Shouldn't be surprising.

Also, it's been a while, but wasn't it confirmed that CBUIII doesn't actually control the cash shop? Wasn't it someone else in charge? I thought at some point they said it was something like "The Mog Station Lady"? I honestly don't remember the actual facts though.

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Yes CBUIII does not control it. Yoshi talked about it once called the exec who controls the mog station a baroness and scary..

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Originally Posted by CStrife912

It’s almost like they’re surprised they put stuff into the cash shop, there is still plenty of gear, mounts and minions etc in the game which you can earn in game unlike say WoW, ESO, BDO, Blue Protocol etc etc

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What? FF14 has exponentially more items in the cash shop then WoW. I can't speak for the other games though.

Edit: I was bored and had nothing better to do, so I went and did some counting.

WoW Cash Shop (Excluding services like level boost, realm transfer, etc)
25 mounts
25 pets (minions)
1 toy
5 glamour sets

FFXIV Cash Shop (Still excluding services and fantasia)
121 Costume Sets
31 Mounts
47 Emotes
2 Eternal Bond sets
30 Weapon glamours
119 Armour Glamours
20 Accessories
41 Minions
12 Chocobo Bardings
44 Orchestrion Rolls
157 Housing Items
2 Face Paints
1 Fashion Accessory

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Sorry the truth hurts your little ego and you missed yoshi discussing it. Guessing your seething hate kept you from watching it.

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Actually it's even worse if that's the truth. Shifting blame to some unknown element because he's to cowardice to take responsibility lmao.

This community... I don't know what to say other than people that defending this game deserved the shitty game we have now.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

I don't usually do BLU savage raids, but I probably would have gotten around to it if they had Shadowkeeper as the reward. I'm not doing old savage raids as BLU for a title as bad as "Forbidden Blue".

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well, too bad, if you want rewards you gotta pay for them, not play for them. Thats the world we play in now.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

Actually it's even worse if that's the truth. Shifting blame to some unknown element because he's to cowardice to take responsibility lmao.

This community... I don't know what to say other than people that defending this game deserved the shitty game we have now.

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It sadly is the mog station is outside cbuIII control and under the control of different exec. It was no Yoshi choice not have control it was SE choice. Guess what answer they gave him when he last asked for a budget increase..not hard to guess.

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Originally Posted by CStrife912

It’s almost like they’re surprised they put stuff into the cash shop, there is still plenty of gear, mounts and minions etc in the game which you can earn in game unlike say WoW, ESO, BDO, Blue Protocol etc etc

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I honestly wonder if the people making comments such as this have actually played the likes of World of Warcraft. Blizzard don't exactly skimp when it comes to dangling carrots on the stick to work towards in-game. There's treasures in the open world to hunt down, puzzles to solve, various reputations to grind and unlock rewards and the most recent patch added 'Time Rifts' which have multiple different vendors offering multiple mounts, pets, toys and glamour options.

It's always struck me as really strange how a vocal portion of FFXIV's community allow the development team to get away with never really innovating or offering more in-game rewards to please a greater variety of players.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

It sadly is the mog station is outside cbuIII control and under the control of different exec. It was no Yoshi choice not have control it was SE choice.

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I don't believe any of this pathetic excuses, I heard it first hand from ex-sqex employee working on FFXIV. When I asked them, they laughing their ass off, there is no such thing as angry lady LMAO....

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

What? FF14 has exponentially more items in the cash shop then WoW. I can't speak for the other games though.

Edit: I was bored and had nothing better to do, so I went and did some counting.

WoW Cash Shop (Excluding services like level boost, realm transfer, etc)
25 mounts
25 pets (minions)
1 toy
5 glamour sets

FFXIV Cash Shop (Still excluding services and fantasia)
121 Costume Sets
31 Mounts
47 Emotes
2 Eternal Bond sets
30 Weapon glamours
119 Armour Glamours
20 Accessories
41 Minions
12 Chocobo Bardings
44 Orchestrion Rolls
157 Housing Items
2 Face Paints
1 Fashion Accessory

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Still bored so I went through and added the price of all WoW cash shop items, which comes out to $935
I don't have nearly enough time to add up all the FF14 items but someone did it in 2020 and came out to $2616.50, and that was three years ago (https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ng_on_the_mog/)

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

And the ingame rewards are all high quality, especially the stuff from the treasure maps. Taste in that may vary but i think nobody can say that the free glam in XIV is badly designed compared to the shops glam.

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Yeah right, "high quality" dungeon loot is mostly all just recolors of old content, the "quality" of most glamour in the game is very low because the game has to run on PS4 and not cause performance issues.
I can litteraly go to the glamour dresser or modarchive and when i compare what people do in their free time to what is actually in the game, there is a huge gap in quality and not in FF14's favour.

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Originally Posted by Dionysius

I don't believe any of this pathetic excuses, I heard it first hand from ex-sqex employee working on FFXIV. When I asked them, they laughing their ass off, there is no such thing as angry lady LMAO....

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The oldest most bs thing anyone could say on a forum. Rofl

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

Still bored so I went through and added the price of all WoW cash shop items, which comes out to $935
I don't have nearly enough time to add up all the FF14 items but someone did it in 2020 and came out to $2616.50, and that was three years ago (https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ng_on_the_mog/)

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Dragon Quest X also has a pretty full on cash shop. It has an incredibly large amount of items for glamour, mounts, colouring items, housing, emotes, accessories, HUD Face expressions and ingame buffs. Games playable without it for sure but it has orbs that boost EXP gain for 30 minutes, treasure map content and so on. The XIV store is certainly par for the course for Square Enix. At least the prices aren't as incredibly painful.

If anyone wants to take a gander: https://hiroba.dqx.jp/sc/shop

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

The oldest most bs thing anyone could say on a forum. Rofl

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Whatever, keep making excuses that this isn't any of the dev fault. No one cares about stupid excuses.
You sell that crap, you take responsibility for it, grow some common sense.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

Still bored so I went through and added the price of all WoW cash shop items, which comes out to $935
I don't have nearly enough time to add up all the FF14 items but someone did it in 2020 and came out to $2616.50, and that was three years ago (https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ng_on_the_mog/)

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Forgot the Wow Token that brings in a Hell of a lot of money for blizzard. So $935 is just what the public can see..

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Forgot the Wow Token that brings in a Hell of a lot of money for blizzard. So $935 is just what the public can see..

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It's not just the WoW token. It's the paid character services as well. Race change, name change, realm transfer, etc.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

It's not just the WoW token. It's the paid character services as well. Race change, name change, realm transfer, etc.

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:rolleyes: Like to be a jerk from time to time with the love of my life I say that I will race change to a Lala. Oh the looks I get from across the room with that one..lol

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's optional. It only affects you if you willing to shell out the dough. Been playing this game for years and had a lot of fun with it. Never bought one thing.

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This is the shoddiest defense of price gouging I've ever seen.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

This is the shoddiest defense of price gouging I've ever seen.

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It's (un)surprisingly common here. Doesn't matter that the company hosting their favorite mmo is slowly becoming scummier and pushing the envelope on what it can and can't get away with from a monetization standpoint; long as they can keep doing their own thing, then all is well. And it is! It's all well and good ... until the company's awful anti-consumer business practices touch something they like. Once some feature they wanted to see in the game is being sold to them for the price of a whole separate video game, then it'll be their turn to make a thread complaining about it. A lot of people woke up to this reality when the dog mount they assumed would be a blu reward for playing the game was sold to them instead. Sooner or later, everyone sees a glam item they like, only to do the research and learn that it's a cash shop exclusive, sold in a bundle of gear they don't want but will be forced to pay for anyway if they want to get the singular piece they were after to begin with. Or an emote that was bundled with a figurine 5 years ago that can only be purchased nowadays through scalpers. Or maybe it'll be Christmas and you'll want a tree for your FC house and then you'll learn that you can either spend 10 million gil on a hoarder's marketboard tree or several dollars in the cash shop since they're never bringing that event back because they'd rather just sell you the damn thing.

In a perfect world we'd all want Square to adopt more consumer-friendly business practices surrounding their cash shop, especially since we're already buying each expansion and paying a sub, but Square will never ever feel that kind of pressure because for every one (1) person who thinks critically about this sort of thing and what the implications are going forward, there are like 300 people who will just buy whatever's on the cash shop the moment it comes out. So in a weird way, I can understand Renalt's inability to give a shit. I just hope he's not shocked when one day the things he has fun with disappear behind a paywall. It sucks too, because you can avoid the shop and refuse to spend money there out of protest, "vote with your wallet" and all that, but the hyper-whales in this game who buy and gift and fanta-addict and etc. will invalidate your vote 200 times over. You can do everything "right" from a conscious consumer standpoint and still end up with the stereotypical greed-motivated game run by a company that creates problems to sell you cash shop solutions, in part because people with more money than sense can't just close their wallet for two minutes.

It's simple. Vote with your wallet. I go by that rule with every single game or really anything in life.

I do not like microtransactions. Instead of making post after post after post after post about how much i dislike it...I just don't buy it. Why? Because money talks.

I don't like the direction the game is going. I've lost interest. If 7.0 doesn't start steering in the direction I like? I'm gone. No microtransactions. No sub. Done.

I don't like Blizzard. Therefore I don't buy their games. Would I like Diablo 4? Probably. But I vote with my wallet.

I don't like EA. I don't buy their games. Would I like Jedi Survivor? Probably. I vote with my wallet.

I'm not contributing to the practice of "Man I really don't like these...but I want it so here is my money".

Will others disagree with this view? Absolutely. However you know why I do what I do. I won't change it. You can't change it.

"Just vote with your wallet!"
Meanwhile the limsa afkers will buy 6 of the same thing just to spite you. Not buying something doesn't matter anymore because there's a dozen people who will just buy absolutely anything SE puts out.

I can't see the comment that was defending price gouging as I have whoever made it blocked, but if people are actually defending price gouging, that's sad and it reflects pretty poorly upon the health of this community as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Karious

"Just vote with your wallet!"
Meanwhile the limsa afkers will buy 6 of the same thing just to spite you. Not buying something doesn't matter anymore because there's a dozen people who will just buy absolutely anything SE puts out.

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This is a problem in a lot of industries. There's too many people who just don't care and keep feeding into the problem. There's nothing people with standards can do until the apathetic start gaining a little self respect.

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Originally Posted by Karious

"Just vote with your wallet!"
Meanwhile the limsa afkers will buy 6 of the same thing just to spite you. Not buying something doesn't matter anymore because there's a dozen people who will just buy absolutely anything SE puts out.

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That's because they approve of it. It's their money. I'm not so arrogant to say what others should be doing with it. I only have control with what I do with my money.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Also, cash shop revenue goes back into FFXIV. It's your subscription that's going to support FFXVII.

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Sorry, but this is never the case. Cash shop revenues will be used to create more cash shop items. :)



Cheers

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Was something new added, or was this just jumping the gun with every cash shop thread ever?

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I honestly think the Mods should pin this thread, because it's painfully clear that we're gonna get a thread of this nature, and the same discussion, every single time they add anything to the cash shop :(

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

I honestly think the Mods should pin this thread, because it's painfully clear that we're gonna get a thread of this nature, and the same discussion, every single time they add anything to the cash shop :(

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yeah, the last spark of resitance, because the fight is long lost.

Sorry players we can't make Viera hats, but here is a new glamour set in the cash shop with a hat your Viera can't wear.
Sorry wen can't put Mogry Station items in the Armoire to free up the glamour dresser space, but here have some new Glamours in the shop.
Sorry we can't put the glamour Dresser in your house either because the person who coded it had no idea what they were doing.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

it's painfully clear that we're gonna get a thread of this nature, and the same discussion, every single time they add anything to the cash shop :(

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For good reason.

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Originally Posted by Arohk

yeah, the last spark of resitance, because the fight is long lost.

Sorry players we can't make Viera hats, but here is a new glamour set in the cash shop with a hat your Viera can't wear.
Sorry wen can't put Mogry Station items in the Armoire to free up the glamour dresser space, but here have some new Glamours in the shop.
Sorry we can't put the glamour Dresser in your house either because the person who coded it had no idea what they were doing.

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To be clear I did not suggest that I think the issue raised in the OP shouldn't be discussed. Just that, in the case of the subject of this thread at least, the issue pops up so frequently that it'd make more sense for it just to be pinned.

Rip-offs, rip-offs, rip-offs.

Psst the angry Mogshop lady hiding under your bed isn't real.

She can't hurt you.