Is there too much soy in this game's community

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

Criticism: use of buzzwords to insult people while you claiming it’s not

Solution: offered to Google or suggested you do it

Also don’t be coy. You are well aware that is an insult. If you’re not, then I question your perspective on any other interaction

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See thats where Im confused, I didnt even insult anybody. But you're just gonna claim a Buzzword is an Insult, even after I explained How I used said "Buzzword".
Pretty Crazy Man XD

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

See thats where Im confused, I didnt even insult anybody. But you're just gonna claim a Buzzword is an Insult, even after I explained How I used it.
Pretty Crazy Man XD

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“Baby gamer rage”. That’s your insult. I don’t know why you insist on playing these games. When you point at a side you disagree with and insult the maturity of their actions in this way.

Just saying, you aren’t Mr take the high road while passing judgement

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

“Baby gamer rage”. That’s your insult. I don’t know why you insist on playing these games. When you point at a side you disagree with and insult the maturity of their actions in this way.

Just saying, you aren’t Mr take the high road while passing judgement

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It wasn't even an insult. It was a Question, and you are insulted by it. And now you think Im playing a game, and there was some High Road.
You are just to much XD

Ok, Im just wasting time and Post limits on this. Nothing Productive here, just going in circles which is a shame.
Just apparently me saying anything is an Insult, Which has me Dying of Laughter.
Alright, you have a good Day/Night.

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

It costs nothing to be nice to people when offering criticism.
There’s zero need to flame someone that wasn’t initially trying to flame in the first place, you can and should mention things of course if it bothers you but you can approach it as an adult and realise you have no idea who is behind that screen, or in real life are you also the type of person that screams at the people in line at a grocery store? No you only do that online because you don’t see the person behind so it’s easier to take out your anger but you can literally never know who is behind the screen.
Could be a kid, could be an older person, could be someone that just witnessed a hard life event, there’s no need to try to raise your low self esteem by acting tough and non “soy” to strangers online.

It’s not your job to teach them how to play, but you can remove yourself from people and situations that make you angry.
I too encountered my share of underleveled gray armour tanks who refused to use CDs and I do tell them that under these conditions, keeping him alive with wall to wall pulls is proving very difficult, but people usually either take it nicely back or they blame it on me for not healing them when one hit literally kills them and I could easily lose my s*it on that but it’s just not worth it, I know my actions, I looked hard over my job and I tried to help him, if he doesn’t want the help, me risking a ban is not worth it. If someone’s play style bothers you that much then just find a different party or learn some patience for your own good first, and theirs second, it goes hand in hand. Obviously this won’t get anywhere on a troll thread but eh.

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So if someone is shitty to you irl do you just nod and smile? Or do you say something? I wont enable anyones bad behaviour ingame or out. I am more than willing to tell a person at a store they are being shitty, which I am sure other customers and cashier will agree with. It sounds like you enable bad behaviour everywhere which isnt healthy. I also dont think many people are yelling at anyone ingame. They type out a sentence without caps teling the person they are doing something wrong. If they take it that badly then they are being sensitive and not wanting to get better which in that case no one is required to carry them through any content.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

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There are billions of people on the planet. If they are being horrible people...I just ignore them and move on. Do you think if I said anything to them that they would be all "You know what you got a point. I'm sorry".

No. They don't. They take that behavior and ramp it to 200% and now it's directed at you. I'm never going to see them again. I remove myself from the situation and it is over and done with immediately.

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Originally Posted by Nyxs

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In situations like the one you're describing, I tell myself "Is this worth confronting them about?" Often, it's not, because people who act out typically want attention.

Like water off of a duck's back, they say.

Light hearted banter is best served among people you already know.

If I'm in a duty roulette with strangers, the only humor I'm going to use is of the self-deprecating kind if I'm the one that screws up.

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Originally Posted by Skiros

Back in Heavensward and Stormblood you can insult people and mock them and they'll just insult and mock you back. Banter, friendly or unfriendly, was the norm. What happened to this game's community man!? Now you make a mild joke and they collapse and freak out and start crying. People don't even fight back anymore! What happened to FF14? Where is all the testosterone?

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Hmm I’d say ok boomer, but not sure this post deserves even that…..

Way I see it if someone is doing something to the point another person tells them they are horrible and need to self delete. Report and move on, if it is happening often still report but it is time to start reflecting on what or what you may not doing.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

Gen Z started playing.

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Today, I will remind them.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Troll post indeed, but oddly enough our NN had this conversation recently. Yes, it does appear more people get offended far more easily. We have moved past the era where offense was taken not given. Just the nature of the beast with ever changing times. People take to forget it is a personal choice to get offended or bothered by something. Yet when you tell someone that it never ends well.

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Offense is subjective. I take offense to things you might not.

And people offended by everything is one of those things that I'm offended by.

I'm a free speech absolutist. I feel that society should dictate what's acceptable to say, not a government or corporate entity. I follow SE's rules, for example, but I still feel they should have no right to tell me what I can't say. One should be polite enough to not say something horrible, and ostracizing from society for being an asshole is good enough.

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Originally Posted by Imora

I feel that society should dictate what's acceptable to say, not a government or corporate entity.

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What if I told you that governments and corporate entities are created by society?

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

What if I told you that governments and corporate entities are created by society?

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What if I told you that they're overstepping their bounds?

If my towns people want to ban a word, that's fine. If my towns government wants to van a word with absolutely no input from the rest of us, that's not fine.

Government is more skin to the discussion than companies, because a corporate entity is at the whims of the government. Even if SE wanted to give an N word pass, they couldn't in a lot of places.

And don't get me started on government officials doing shit I didn't vote them in to do.

Yall would hang the best comedians in history now. George Carlin was right. People are getting soft.

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Originally Posted by Imora

Yall would hang the best comedians in history now. George Carlin was right. People are getting soft.

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Most people that claim for the utmost free speech have very little interesting to say. We live in society, society perception of right and wrong changes over time. We stabilish limits, evolve certain conceptions, that's how the world goes. Yeah many comedians from decades ago wouldn't have a place now, but imagine if we all had the same sense of humour forever.
This has very little to do with getting soft, it's about change, and it always happened and it will keep happening. You might choose to get sour over it but I don't think it's something worth putting energy into.

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Originally Posted by Imora

If my towns people want to ban a word, that's fine. If my towns government wants to van a word with absolutely no input from the rest of us, that's not fine.

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So, how would you decide what the towns people want? Who would get the final say? Would it be a vote for every little issue? Or would they, I don't know, elect a group of people that would decide for the town?

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Hmm...

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Originally Posted by Burmecia

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Hmm...

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So it was the fault of stormblood then. We should have known.

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Originally Posted by Melorie

Most people that claim for the utmost free speech have very little interesting to say. We live in society, society perception of right and wrong changes over time. We stabilish limits, evolve certain conceptions, that's how the world goes. Yeah many comedians from decades ago wouldn't have a place now, but imagine if we all had the same sense of humour forever.
This has very little to do with getting soft, it's about change, and it always happened and it will keep happening. You might choose to get sour over it but I don't think it's something worth putting energy into.

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I mostly agree but they're are defiantly people out there who are hypersensitive and who expect society to constantly pander to them.

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Originally Posted by Burmecia

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Hmm...

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Gosh Ill do some breaded tofu tonite :3 and oyster mushrooms and salad oh yis

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Originally Posted by Mosha

I mostly agree but they're are defiantly people out there who are hypersensitive and who expect society to constantly pander to them.

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Everyone expects it and if you don’t you’re hateful. People don’t have to and I always tell people that. If they need to be coddled they can go tell their mom not me.

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Originally Posted by Mosha

I mostly agree but they're are defiantly people out there who are hypersensitive and who expect society to constantly pander to them.

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Oh yeah, there are! Specially in online spaces, you feel like you are walking on eggshells all the time. But there are also the other side of the coin as well. I was talking more regarding people asking for "100% free speech" and how they can't "do jokes anymore", because to me this mindset is not very different from the hypersensitive one.

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Originally Posted by Burmecia

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Hmm...

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How to Fix a Thread 101
Food :3

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

How to Fix a Thread 101
Food :3

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Food: The Great Equalizer.

And death.

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Originally Posted by ronibosch

Food: The Great Equalizer.

And death.

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Originally Posted by Mosha

I mostly agree but they're are defiantly people out there who are hypersensitive and who expect society to constantly pander to them.

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Sounds like you want society to conform to your ideals, or pander to you if you will.

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Originally Posted by Caddo

I mean, most of the policing I see from people aren't even racist, sexist or homophobic, it's just banter or light hearted commentary.

Comment "Oh ninja, when will you learn that orange candies aren't your friends? :P" after they die the 3rd time and they get super aggressive.

Mention "Hey tank, mind using some cooldowns on wall to walls a bit more? :D" and all of a sudden you get backlashed at for "telling them how to play".

It's like people can't take *ANY* criticism nowadays when you could comment on this and people would shrug it off, laugh it off or play silly back with you, but like I said. The online community has definetly changed over the past decade.

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It's the Gen Z snowflakes flooding the game

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Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon

It's the Gen Z snowflakes flooding the game

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Originally Posted by Renalt

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The original post and title feels so familiar that it reminds me of “XIV players are mentally fragile” thread.
And the author of said thread is also the one that necro-ed this thread. They share the same avatar.

coincidence?

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

The original post and title feels so familiar that it reminds me of “XIV players are mentally fragile” thread.
And the author of said thread is also the one that necro-ed this thread. They share the same avatar.

coincidence?

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Well he did admit to being the same person at one point too.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

The original post and title feels so familiar that it reminds me of “XIV players are mentally fragile” thread.
And the author of said thread is also the one that necro-ed this thread. They share the same avatar.

coincidence?

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lmao if i'm actually trying to bait it wouldn't be that obvious

the most successful bait lately no one even noticed it was me :D

Getting offended is not a choice. Different people have different sensitivities.

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Originally Posted by Burmecia

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Ty for the food idea :3

Sir... this is a role-playing video game... human endocrinology has no possible relevance in the FANTASY world of Eorzea. Please do us and yourself a favor and keep your personal views relative to the hormones of human males out of our magical fantasy world. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Yuella

Getting offended is not a choice. Different people have different sensitivities.

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Offence is taken, not given

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

Offence is taken, not given

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Nice cop out of taking responsibility for your actions.
Depression and suicide exist. Words have power.
Be an adult and take responsibility.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Nice cop out of taking responsibility for your actions.
Depression and suicide exist. Words have power.
Be an adult and take responsibility.

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Calling it a cop out is a cop out. Just because you have certain “sensitivities” doesn’t mean someone is trying to “trigger” your fragility. You could grow a spine, or some thicker skin, go back to the old adage of words don’t hurt. Or curl up in your ball, trembling because someone said something you didn’t like and you let it break you

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

Calling it a cop out is a cop out. Just because you have certain “sensitivities” doesn’t mean someone is trying to “trigger” your fragility. You could grow a spine, or some thicker skin, go back to the old adage of words don’t hurt. Or curl up in your ball, trembling because someone said something you didn’t like and you let it break you

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Yes yes it's very easy to be tough and edgy behind internet anonymity.
But I guarantee, you have friends or family members with mental health issues, who struggle with these things. Do you tell them to 'grow a spine'? Or maybe you don't realise because you're the type of person they wouldn't confide in. Maybe it's a cousin with an eating disorder, or an uncle with PTSD. Mental health issues are real, therapy exists for a reason, and it's not because "everyone's so fragile nowadays".

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Yes yes it's very easy to be tough and edgy behind internet anonymity.
But I guarantee, you have friends or family members with mental health issues, who struggle with these things. Do you tell them to 'grow a spine'? Or maybe you don't realise because you're the type of person they wouldn't confide in. Maybe it's a cousin with an eating disorder, or an uncle with PTSD. Mental health issues are real, therapy exists for a reason, and it's not because "everyone's so fragile nowadays".

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Or possibly I, like many have my own issues. But they are no one else’s responsibility. Stop shovelling your crap onto other people and practice personal responsibility. Not up to me or anyone else to tip toe around your personal issues

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Originally Posted by Kolaina

Or possibly I, like many have my own issues. But they are no one else’s responsibility. Stop shovelling your crap onto other people and practice personal responsibility. Not up to me or anyone else to tip toe around your personal issues

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It takes no effort to not be an asshole to people. Grow up and treat people with a basic level of respect. You don't have the right to intentionally trigger people because you think it's their responsibility to deal with your bullshit.