Reopen the Moogle Pageantry Store now!!

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lol okay folks, I get it, I didn't read the thing when the event started. But that doesn't explain why SE randomly changed things up for this event. As I said, players get used to mechanics, both inside and outside of combat, and this was a case of that where tons of folks "knew" how tomestone events work based on past experience. Anyway, those of us with leftover tomestones already did the work to get them, so it's not like we're asking SE to give us a free handout. We're just asking them to let us use our now-expired vouchers. I already have everything from the event and was just going to get some more MGP at the end of things like I always do, so I'm not too torn about it, but those of you fighting against allowing people to spend their tomes - why? It literally doesn't affect you, unless you have Shiver emotes up on the market board and don't want more to flood in and drop the price for a while. If you spent your tomes, great, but if you didn't, go away as there is absolutely no reason why you should be fighting against players being able to spend the points they earned.

Having said that, I agree with people making fun of the OP for their tone - saying "I demand this now!" is never a good way to go about doing things. If anything we should just raise it to SE's attention that hey, if possible, it would be nice if you could allow folks to spend their tomes after this event as you have done with past tomestone events; if not, okay, it was on us for not reading.

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They didn't randomly change it, the end of the event wasn't tied to a new patch like it normally does, therefore it will expire. They do this all the time with events in-game, you have until XX date to finish the quest/spend tokens/etc.

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lol okay folks, I get it, I didn't read the thing when the event started. But that doesn't explain why SE randomly changed things up for this event. As I said, players get used to mechanics, both inside and outside of combat, and this was a case of that where tons of folks "knew" how tomestone events work based on past experience. Anyway, those of us with leftover tomestones already did the work to get them, so it's not like we're asking SE to give us a free handout. We're just asking them to let us use our now-expired vouchers. I already have everything from the event and was just going to get some more MGP at the end of things like I always do, so I'm not too torn about it, but those of you fighting against allowing people to spend their tomes - why? It literally doesn't affect you, unless you have Shiver emotes up on the market board and don't want more to flood in and drop the price for a while. If you spent your tomes, great, but if you didn't, go away as there is absolutely no reason why you should be fighting against players being able to spend the points they earned.

Having said that, I agree with people making fun of the OP for their tone - saying "I demand this now!" is never a good way to go about doing things. If anything we should just raise it to SE's attention that hey, if possible, it would be nice if you could allow folks to spend their tomes after this event as you have done with past tomestone events; if not, okay, it was on us for not reading.

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No one is really arguing against having a grace period like previous Mogtome events. However, it has been explained way more than once in this thread as to why it was different this time around. It was a special, limited time event tied exclusively to Fanfest, with more items than usual available and double tomestone gains. And because they could, they also made the tomestones time sensitive. There's not much more to say. Just because you and others don't want to see it, doesn't mean the explanation isn't there.

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lol okay folks, I get it, I didn't read the thing when the event started. But that doesn't explain why SE randomly changed things up for this event. As I said, players get used to mechanics, both inside and outside of combat, and this was a case of that where tons of folks "knew" how tomestone events work based on past experience. Anyway, those of us with leftover tomestones already did the work to get them, so it's not like we're asking SE to give us a free handout. We're just asking them to let us use our now-expired vouchers. I already have everything from the event and was just going to get some more MGP at the end of things like I always do, so I'm not too torn about it, but those of you fighting against allowing people to spend their tomes - why? It literally doesn't affect you, unless you have Shiver emotes up on the market board and don't want more to flood in and drop the price for a while. If you spent your tomes, great, but if you didn't, go away as there is absolutely no reason why you should be fighting against players being able to spend the points they earned.

Having said that, I agree with people making fun of the OP for their tone - saying "I demand this now!" is never a good way to go about doing things. If anything we should just raise it to SE's attention that hey, if possible, it would be nice if you could allow folks to spend their tomes after this event as you have done with past tomestone events; if not, okay, it was on us for not reading.

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Just because I have nothing to lose does not mean I am obligated to offer support. Nor am I obligated to 'go away' just because I disagree.

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No one is really arguing against having a grace period like previous Mogtome events. However, it has been explained way more than once in this thread as to why it was different this time around. It was a special, limited time event tied exclusively to Fanfest, with more items than usual available and double tomestone gains. And because they could, they also made the tomestones time sensitive. There's not much more to say. Just because you and others don't want to see it, doesn't mean the explanation isn't there.

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Just another case of them (as in: all of the people incessantly repeating their complaints) not reading. Most of us have explained at least two or three times in this thread why it didn't work as it normally would. Because it wasn't a normal Moogle Tomestone event.

We don't need your support, but we certainly also don't need your opposition.

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We don't need your support, but we certainly also don't need your opposition.

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Too bad. Even people who disagree have just as much of a right to partake in a discussion, there's no echo chambers here.

Also, for the record, I don't necessarily oppose a grace period on it's own.. I mean I think it's good the Moogle Tomestone events normally have them. In this case however ample warning was given in all the reasonable ways SE would expect players to keep informed. At some point it ceases to be a case of 'SE is at fault'. And they also made it ample clear this wasn't a normal Tomestone event and thus didn't work like a normal one.

Again, there is literally 0 reason for you - as another player - to oppose people being allowed to spend their hard-earned tomestones. It affects you in no way whatsoever. You are not adding anything to the conversation and are simply being demeaning and condescending ("oh, I guess you can't read, derp derp derp"). As I've said a couple of times now, yes, I missed the disclaimer - I leave my FFXIV on in the background at all times and so I basically only log out / in a couple of times a month (usually during patches); I guess I missed the message when it first went out. I am not saying it is SE's "fault" as you claim, but rather pointing out that it was an easy mistake for people to make given that SE has allowed tomestones to be used after an event for every tomestone event in recent history and SE is known for generally doing things consistently.

I'm simply saying it would be nice if, since it wouldn't really harm anyone and would only benefit those of us who missed the message, SE would provide a post-event window to spend the tomes. It's not up to me or you - it's up to SE. I have an issue with OP's demanding way of going about asking for it, but nobody in here can reasonably oppose other players asking to be able to spend the tomestones that they already earned. (They can do it, obviously, but it's a silly position to take and just shows how sad their world must be if they derive pleasure out of trying to prevent others from having nice things, especially when those players earned it and just missed the memo about when they needed to spend it by.)

I spent my tomestones on the last day of the event, without even realizing it was the last day myself. Though I had no expectations of being able to use them after it ended as I never bothered with previous events of this kind before.

I didn't pay attention to the end date, nor did I really care about it as I had already gotten everything really wanted already. I simply had extra currency I got from doing content that happened to supply it.

At the start, I looked at the list of items, decided what I wanted, and picked up each one the moment I could afford it. Best way to handle limited time events like this I think.

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I spent my tomestones on the last day of the event, without even realizing it was the last day myself. Though I had no expectations of being able to use them after it ended as I never bothered with previous events of this kind before.

I didn't pay attention to the end date, nor did I really care about it as I had already gotten everything really wanted already. I simply had extra currency I got from doing content that happened to supply it.

At the start, I looked at the list of items, decided what I wanted, and picked up each one the moment I could afford it. Best way to handle limited time events like this I think.

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That is how most do it. Hoarding currency until the last moment presents an inherent risk.. because do something wrong.. like not informing yourself of important details.. and you get this thread.

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That is how most do it. Hoarding currency until the last moment presents an inherent risk.. because do something wrong.. like not informing yourself of important details.. and you get this thread.

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The only thing I didn't already have from this event was the Scree ring, which I bought on like the first day... So I was basically in the same position as Adeacia except I didn't happen to spend my tomes before the end date. Again, I'm not too torn about it since I already have millions of MGP and everything I could want, but that doesn't change the fact that it was just like "wait wut" at the end. I'm just more baffled by you and the folks in here who are pushing back against a grace period while claiming that you're not lol.

The amount of people refusing to take personal responsibility for their own not reading is astounding...

I missed out too. I thought the event ended on a Tuesday instead of a Monday because what even is time lol. My bad. Threw out my tomes and moved on.

SE gave plenty and ample avenues of information for you to realize, outside of the already obvious indications, that this was an irregular Irregular Tomestones event. The assumption that it was like the previous events is on you. It literally would have been as easy as, "huh, I wonder if this is the same as the last time." *reads the login message in chat log* *clicks the link*

Even if it WAS the same as last time, you would have spent like 2 minutes confirming that yep, same as last time. Since it wasn't, you would have spent 2 minutes and realized "oh, wow, it's different this time. Better spend my tomes."

It's not brown-nosing SE for saying it's not their fault because it literally isn't their fault. They provided the information; you chose not to read it. That's on you. If you took an argument like this to court the judge would laugh you out of house and home.

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I'm just more baffled by you and the folks in here who are pushing back against a grace period while claiming that you're not lol.

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No one's pushing against grace period. People are just criticizing the ones who insist on blaming SE for their own oversight.

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No one's pushing against grace period. People are just criticizing the ones who insist on blaming SE for their own oversight.

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No one's pushing against grace period. People are just criticizing the ones who insist on blaming SE for their own oversight.

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This exactly. I'm expecting people who made a mistake and thus missed out to take a little bit of responsibility for it. Instead there's a lot of blaming SE and both begging and demanding SE open the store back up.

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This exactly. I'm expecting people who made a mistake and thus missed out to take a little bit of responsibility for it. Instead there's a lot of blaming SE and both begging and demanding SE open the store back up.

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There's also people like me who are saying yeah, it's my fault that I didn't see the message (even though it is strange they randomly changed it this time, but whatever), but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be cool if SE reopened the store. Your all's approach to even this sort of stance is "no you dun read good so you dumb and need to take responsibiliteh." And then you are all pretending that you're being completely reasonable when you get called out. Just lol.

For example, the last post calls out both those "begging" and those "demanding" SE to reopen the store. Those are two completely separate things. Nobody has a right to make demands of SE, but why are you calling out people who are "begging" (i.e., asking) SE to reopen the store so that they can spend their tomestones? Like, as long as they're just asking politely (obviously the OP isn't), why do you care? I'm honestly curious.

Just to offer some perspective from the Japanese point of view, regarding things like a grace period.

I personally don’t care either way about a grace period, but SE chose not to… why?

In Japan there are often set boundaries when it comes to things like bending rules and it is often frowned upon to make exceptions because if you make an exception this time, people will expect an exception next time.

It’s viewed very much as a “if you give a mouse a cookie…” situation (google it, it’s a kids book).

To the point, they haven’t had grace periods for events like Xmas or Halloween, so for this to be an exception would give players reason to complain when (for example) the FF15 event returns and doesn’t offer a grace period. This is much more difficult to explain to the player base than “sorry, our events end when they end”.



Personally? I think they should just have a holiday vendor that has exchange for every old/expired “currency” into something like Grand Company Seals or Tomestones.

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They put the disclaimer because the Moogle event wasn't tied to ending on a new patch. It would just expire and go away, back to what the Moogle previously offered. Makes total sense.

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That's a really good point. I don't think they've said anything official. But it does seem credible they could hotfix something in with a timer but would have required more jiggling with the code to make it persist after that expired.

Especially because like you said, a lot of events just turn on and off. I've been online when things just popped up around me and it was off-putting at first but you get used to it.

I honestly don't know why SE chose to call the items for this event "irregular tomestones" when they function differently from every other "irregular tomestone" in recent history (e.g., mythology, soldiery, law, esoterics, etc.). I think if they'd used any other item (e.g., like the Pumpkin Cookies, Heavensturn Tickets, etc.) that was specific to this event but was not called an "irregular tomestone," the vast majority of people would've known that it functioned differently even if they missed the disclaimer. It just seems strange that SE didn't implement the typical seasonal vendor like usually they do with these sort of events but instead chose to use the Itinerant Moogle, which has always allowed post-event turn-ins. Say what you will, but this is an issue of poor planning/design for this event. They switched things up and, although they had disclaimers, this is never how they've done it in the past. If for some reason you can't understand why someone would assume that a game mechanic would continue to operate as it always has, then I don't know what to say.

They should leave them up. There really is no reason to take down the pageantry tome stones after the event concluded, it was largely arbitrary and they kept prior exchanges up after the event for the last three times I think. I still got 130 of them and didn't even realize the event was honestly just going to end like that.

And even if you did know that it was going to end, would you honestly agree to have them taken down? Why leave the other ones up, and just take down this one? It's not about whether someone remembered to turn them in or not, it is about the whole goal of having these tomestones up in the first place. If someone went on vacation or got busy in life, then missed the cutoff date, and they had a huge store of tomestones stacked in their inventory they just got burned by the entire system.

And FYI just about every single game in the universe lets you dump the items into something from events after the event ends, or makes the items you get from the event directly usable in some way. WoW had candies you could use during the valentines day events and while that one had chocolate turn ins that didn't do anything, I recall the reward was mostly just getting more expendable items. The pageantry tomestones are like a motherload of time consuming items you can normally get in game at great costs in time. I'd never take the darn thing off for at least two months after the event ended. Maybe give people a week or something afterwards minimum but just leave the turn-in moogle there.

Ah before I forget, if someone uses quick launcher, they probably didn't see anything about the event end being the point where tomestones are now worthless. I barely even come to the lodestone as is, I just came over here because I logged in and noticed the event ended, went to do my usual thing of turning in the tomestones, and they are gone. No warning or anything. Maybe it was in the purple text or something? I don't remember seeing it when logging in and if I did it got buried immediately in the chat log. I mean do we need another Garo train?

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Ah before I forget, if someone uses quick launcher, they probably didn't see anything about the event end being the point where tomestones are now worthless.

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Ignoring the ToS on launchers of course, I highly HIGHLY doubt it prevented any player from have access to the chat box. That chat box that, on every single login, stated that the tomes will becomes useless right when the event ends.

If someone was physically incapable of handing in on the last day due to something, then I understand, but most people are pretending like Square didn't make an attempt to warn them, when in reality they literally warned us every day of the event, some days through multiple sources over and over. Square doesn't have any obligation to bring them back, because they fairly made sure everyone got potentially tens, if not hundreds of warnings beforehand.

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Ignoring the ToS on launchers of course, I highly HIGHLY doubt it prevented any player from have access to the chat box. That chat box that, on every single login, stated that the tomes will becomes useless right when the event ends.

If someone was physically incapable of handing in on the last day due to something, then I understand, but most people are pretending like Square didn't make an attempt to warn them, when in reality they literally warned us every day of the event, some days through multiple sources over and over. Square doesn't have any obligation to bring them back, because they fairly made sure everyone got potentially tens, if not hundreds of warnings beforehand.

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Honestly I'm just projecting a bit in my post since I was one of those people who got a bit overwhelmed with life recently and wasn't able to make the cut-off. Ignorance is not really a good defense for such a thing, but it does feel like it went against prior years where they kept things up. In my own case I really only knew the event was going through the 14th and wasn't aware of the tomestones going away. I just look at the advertisements for events running and when the end date is, then go off the historic precedent. If it was like this on every tomestone event I really wouldn't have anything to say other than it's my own fault.

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Originally Posted by Katsushiro

yeah, except if you go look now, the prizes for past tomes like this are literally just magicked prism of job mastery... lol

i have 126 moogles tomes of fanfare, and i am going to have to wait months to spend them on... lolfireworks.

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You can still buy stuff with Esoterics right now. Just...most people no longer have those after this long, and another moogle event that for the precedent would have replaced the previous exchange.



Also, for the people complaining that this was back to back: 5.5 and the end of Esoterics was April 12th, the start of Pagaentry was May 14th.
People would have had over two months of time to spend tomes after they were locked off from earning them, and most of the people in the thread aren't even asking for that long.

Having the warning for the timer being a blurb that is easy to miss on the event page did not help either, since they decided to give more attention to where the vendors are than the fact that the exchange will be limited. It is super easy to scroll past that assuming you were familiar with how previous events worked and just scrolled to the actual item list. While it is our responsibility to read everything, there's a lot of reasons why it's easy to make the mistakes people did. The start and end date at the top of the page are the same as any of the other Moogle Tome events, even though they could have easily added that the exchange was limited time there as well.
https://i.imgur.com/YSltHyf.png

The in-game text also did not make notice of that addition either, and while we could have been on the forums, watching the official Final Fantasy twitter page, or re-reading the full event page repeatedly, those are not reasonable expectations for an event so similar to previous ones. They could have added a timer for exchange to the vendor window like a lot of gacha games do even just to give a transparent in-game timer. They already do timers for some vendors (including Custom Deliveries) that are visible and would have helped remove confusion.

Even after that, this thread is less about saying it's all on Sqenix, and more just people asking for mercy on an event that had them grind for a month.
So if anyone at Sqenix is reading this, please, give us a grace turn-in time.
If you want to limit or remove some marketable items that's fine, just please let people spend their tomes on the un-tradeables at least.

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Just to offer some perspective from the Japanese point of view, regarding things like a grace period.

I personally don’t care either way about a grace period, but SE chose not to… why?

In Japan there are often set boundaries when it comes to things like bending rules and it is often frowned upon to make exceptions because if you make an exception this time, people will expect an exception next time.

It’s viewed very much as a “if you give a mouse a cookie…” situation (google it, it’s a kids book).

To the point, they haven’t had grace periods for events like Xmas or Halloween, so for this to be an exception would give players reason to complain when (for example) the FF15 event returns and doesn’t offer a grace period. This is much more difficult to explain to the player base than “sorry, our events end when they end”.



Personally? I think they should just have a holiday vendor that has exchange for every old/expired “currency” into something like Grand Company Seals or Tomestones.

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I prefer, "If You Give a Moose a Muffin."

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Honestly I'm just projecting a bit in my post since I was one of those people who got a bit overwhelmed with life recently and wasn't able to make the cut-off. Ignorance is not really a good defense for such a thing, but it does feel like it went against prior years where they kept things up. In my own case I really only knew the event was going through the 14th and wasn't aware of the tomestones going away. I just look at the advertisements for events running and when the end date is, then go off the historic precedent. If it was like this on every tomestone event I really wouldn't have anything to say other than it's my own fault.

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And I find myself saying yet again.. this is really getting tiresome now:

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Like.. I said it before and I'll say it again.. maybe all of you should have used that noggin of yours and think 'wait.. we just had one of these a month ago.. we're already getting another one?' when that is quite outside the norm in and of itself already.

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This was not a 'normal' tomestone event 'like every other', SE said this over and over again. It was a special done specifically for Fanfest with different rules. This is an issue of people not informing themselves properly, nothing else.

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And I find myself saying yet again.. this is really getting tiresome now:


This was not a 'normal' tomestone event 'like every other', SE said this over and over again. It was a special done specifically for Fanfest with different rules. This is an issue of people not informing themselves properly, nothing else.

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You are quite a good troll, I’ll give that to you. For the people like you who keep repeating “the event was tied to FanFest,” this is only partly true. The start time was obviously tied to FanFest, but the end time was by no means tied to FanFest - the event went on for weeks after FanFest ended. As I’ve mentioned previously, if this event started and ended with FanFest and/or used some seasonal item and had a seasonal vendor other than irregular tomestones and the itinerant moogle, people would have assumed that the window to spend had a hard stop. However, SE instead decided to use a well-established currency (irregular tomestones) and vendor (the itinerant moogle) but slipped in a disclaimer that they would function differently this time around. I think that most people - myself included - had seen the message about irregular tomestones so many times that we reasonably assumed that they would work the same as they always do and so we just checked the rewards list and start/end dates of the event (assuming that that was just the earn window, not the earn AND spend window). The events that most folks were carefully paying attention to the timing details of were the Uznair Challenge and the various cosplay/screenshot/art submission windows since these are much less common events that were more tied to FanFest.

Did not expect this thread to be so successful, but then again people managed to argue about November for 25 pages.

Also hilarious that people are accusing each other of being trolls... please entertain us more!

I honestly agree, I think they should just allow us to spend the tokens just like every other Moogle event.

It's not the end of the world, sure, but there's also just no compelling reason NOT to allow it. No more EARNING new tokens, just let players spend the ones they have.

Heck, I wish they'd do the same for the Yo-Kai legendary medals. I'd collected ALMOST all of the medals, but somehow I just forgot to actually go back and SPEND them (my thinking had originally been "I'll hold onto them, so I remember which ones I've already completed, and I'll buy the weapons all at once). The event ended before I completed all of them, which is fine, but it sucks having all these complete stacks of legendary medals that I cannot use.

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You are quite a good troll

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'Oh noes, someone disagrees with me and they won't go away, THEY HAVE TO BE A TROLL!!11'

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your drivel if you can't even speak to someone in good faith.

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Heck, I wish they'd do the same for the Yo-Kai legendary medals. I'd collected ALMOST all of the medals, but somehow I just forgot to actually go back and SPEND them (my thinking had originally been "I'll hold onto them, so I remember which ones I've already completed, and I'll buy the weapons all at once). The event ended before I completed all of them, which is fine, but it sucks having all these complete stacks of legendary medals that I cannot use.

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While to some degree I can get why you feel that way, I do believe most MMO's don't do such things by design. Events are supposed to be limited time and in nine out of ten cases.. when the event ends, it ends. Making sure you get what you need from the event is kind of something you're supposed to do during the event. Off course normal Moogle Tomestones event did set a different precedence. That was probably why SE went to such lengths to try and make clear that this Tomestone event did not play by the same rules.

It is not on SE when they make every possible effort to give players the means to get the necessary info.. that some players choose not to do so. This is also why I think they won't be changing their mind on this.

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'Oh noes, someone disagrees with me and they won't go away, THEY HAVE TO BE A TROLL!!11'

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your drivel if you can't even speak to someone in good faith.

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lol says the person telling people to “use their noggin and think” (i.e., calling people dumb). Okay, troll.

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lol says the person telling people to “use their noggin and think” (i.e., calling people dumb). Okay, troll.

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sigh Do I really have to make clear that telling someone to use their brain and think does not equate to 'calling people dumb'? Do I really? Well, apparently I do it would seem.

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sigh Do I really have to make clear that telling someone to use their brain and think does not equate to 'calling people dumb'? Do I really? Well, apparently I do it would seem.

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Ah, yes, my bad, I often tell people to “use your noggin and think” when I’m complimenting their intellect. It was my bad for thinking that you were insinuating that if someone didn’t make the same assumptions about another irregular tomestone event as you then they weren’t using their noggin.

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'Oh noes, someone disagrees with me and they won't go away, THEY HAVE TO BE A TROLL!!11'

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your drivel if you can't even speak to someone in good faith.



While to some degree I can get why you feel that way, I do believe most MMO's don't do such things by design. Events are supposed to be limited time and in nine out of ten cases.. when the event ends, it ends. Making sure you get what you need from the event is kind of something you're supposed to do during the event. Off course normal Moogle Tomestones event did set a different precedence. That was probably why SE went to such lengths to try and make clear that this Tomestone event did not play by the same rules.

It is not on SE when they make every possible effort to give players the means to get the necessary info.. that some players choose not to do so. This is also why I think they won't be changing their mind on this.

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I think in regards to the Yo-kai event, and really any sort of third-party "crossover" event, it completely makes sense to say "when it's over, it's OVER". Likely because, from a legal standpoint, they HAVE to, otherwise it's tons of additional work for lots of people.

I think in this case, it feels a little awkward because aside from a fancy little icon, this isn't altogether any different than the usual Moogle tomestone event. Like I said, I don't think it's a huge deal, but there's also no downside to asking to be able to still SPEND those particular tokens, since unlike the crossover stuff, this is just solely FFXIV stuff being sold.

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lol says the person telling people to “use their noggin and think” (i.e., calling people dumb). Okay, troll.

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Defaulting to calling someone a troll just because they disagree with you is an insult so...that seems a bit hypocritical to me.

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Defaulting to calling someone a troll just because they disagree with you is an insult so...that seems a bit hypocritical to me.

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Wat lol. I called someone a troll who is effectively calling people dumb and then pretending they aren't. They keep quoting their same previous post where they're effectively doing that. If that is "hypocritical," okay, I guess?

To any argument that the event by its nature being limited time is reason to remove the tomestone rewards: Is it not already a limited event if the method to acquire the items to use to purchase things is no longer available? Giving people a grace period after an event is done to turn in tomestones is something that they already set a precedent for so this is quite strange.

I'm just hoping they don't do this again. Part of what makes FFXIV enjoyable is not feeling rushed into having to do something just to get a reward, and the last few times they did this they stuck to that. This just isn't in the spirit of the game.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

To any argument that the event by its nature being limited time is reason to remove the tomestone rewards: Is it not already a limited event if the method to acquire the items to use to purchase things is no longer available? Giving people a grace period after an event is done to turn in tomestones is something that they already set a precedent for so this is quite strange.

I'm just hoping they don't do this again. Part of what makes FFXIV enjoyable is not feeling rushed into having to do something just to get a reward, and the last few times they did this they stuck to that. This just isn't in the spirit of the game.

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Every event has a limited time to get rewards.

This wasn't a moogle event, it was a fanfest event. Every other moogle event was "available until the next patch". This one wasn't. It was ALREADY different in that aspect, even without the limited reward availability.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Every event has a limited time to get rewards.

This wasn't a moogle event, it was a fanfest event. Every other moogle event was "available until the next patch". This one wasn't. It was ALREADY different in that aspect, even without the limited reward availability.

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It was a moogle event linked to the fanfest.

Regardless they should put in something to let people cash out of old tomestones just like any other currency even if it isn't for the original prizes, be it MGP, glamour prisms, or something simple. I'm not just saying this about the current event but just about all the moogle events. It's just easier to manage having some cash out guy at the gold saucer that you can turn in old event items to than to keep a lot of extra vendors around that no one can use.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Every event has a limited time to get rewards.

This wasn't a moogle event, it was a fanfest event. Every other moogle event was "available until the next patch". This one wasn't. It was ALREADY different in that aspect, even without the limited reward availability.

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This argument ignores that they could have used any other vendor than the Moogle vendor with Irregular tomestones and people would have known to not expect the precedent.
They chose to use the Moogle Treasure tag, the vendor, the same acquisition methods (even if tomes were doubled), so it's not a far stretch for most people familiar with Moogle Tomes to expect the late exchange they were used to for previous events.

They could have whipped up a quick Fanfest only vendor and given us Fanfest coins and people wouldn't have expected that.

This is besides the point that asking for a grace period isn't really worth everyone coming in to argue that we don't deserve it for "not reading" when there were any number of things that could have been done to reduce confusion.

1) You were told it was time-limited during the Fanfest broadcast
2) It was on the Login page, available daily
3) It was on the Lodestone webpage, available daily
4) It was told to you in the login window after entering your world, daily
5) You were told in this forum in another post on the last day
6) You completely ignored all of this, on your own behalf

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Originally Posted by Isabun

This argument ignores that they could have used any other vendor than the Moogle vendor with Irregular tomestones and people would have known to not expect the precedent.
They chose to use the Moogle Treasure tag, the vendor, the same acquisition methods (even if tomes were doubled), so it's not a far stretch for most people familiar with Moogle Tomes to expect the late exchange they were used to for previous events.

They could have whipped up a quick Fanfest only vendor and given us Fanfest coins and people wouldn't have expected that.

This is besides the point that asking for a grace period isn't really worth everyone coming in to argue that we don't deserve it for "not reading" when there were any number of things that could have been done to reduce confusion.

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What confusion? That info was there for everyone to read.

Why are you guys still arguing over this? If you want to show Square that you don't like their decisions, stop paying for this game. Everything else will just be ignored by them.