The bullying on these forums is concerning

No one is really mean but we get assaulted for pointing out how the ToS works... and that should read parts of it an more that can be helpfull to avoid eg. not ending inside the ingame prison and the likes as well.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I have reported people who were being hurtful to me, ... Please just look into your hearts, and think about why cyberbullying prevention is so important. It absolutely does affect peoples self esteem, and mental health. It can't be 100% prevented, but it absolutely can be mitigated.

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Agreed. Been a victim of it myself. Worst is that one of the people doing it reported tons of my posts to get me banned for two weeks, but when I've reported posts that were outright horrible, the person didn't even seem to get a warning. It's REALLY hard having calm and peaceful conversations when there are some people that will literally follow you into different parts of the forums into different threads just to bash you there and try to turn people against you, lie about it in other parts of the forum, and take part in big dogpiles of bashing people all over the place with total impunity.

It's not hard to be nice to people, but some people just want to "win", so they bash and personal attack instead. What's worse, though, is when people try to gang up and dogpile and not one of them can see it. In one of the subforums here (Healer), it's so bad that if anyone goes in there and posts anything positive about Healers, the mob will jump into the thread to either badmouth their views, them, or both. A lot of people just outright turn around and leave and don't post anymore because of how toxic their reception is. Then the people there cheer and talk about how they're the majority when they're actively bashing and running off anyone that disagrees with them. Several parts of the forum have some stuff like that (go into the DPS forum and say good things about SMN), but that's the most egregious case I've seen.

I don't care

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Originally Posted by hagare

I don't care

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If you don't care, then why did you post? You cared enough to reply.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Its just funny how people have been asking Square Enix for better moderation and its STILL not happening. How much longer are they going to let these trolls interfere with public discussion. I'm not saying it has to be perfect, but there is rampant trolling. I wouldn't be surprised if the staff stopped taking NA seriously from now on.

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It's so unfortunate.

If forum bothers, you so much that causes distress I would stay away from it and not post on it.

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Originally Posted by Remish

If you don't care, then why did you post? You cared enough to reply.

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No. boredom.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

I have reported people who were being hurtful to me, and I asked the moderators for help over and over, but I'm not getting a reply. People will NOT stop bullying me no matter how many times that I ask them to. I don't know if anything is being done. How is this acceptable with the games terms of service?

Not only do I witness what I experience myself, but there are a lot of trolls who post nonsense that should have been removed a long time ago, but they are allowed to keep going. Some of the trolls here are a little funny, and light hearted in nature, but I don't understand why the worst ones seem to still exist here.

I didn't want to have to make this post, because I know its going to rile people up, and bring even more negative attention toward me, but I don't know what else to do. I want all of the bullying and ganging up on me to cease. I want to continue to enjoy the game I love, and also be able to post feedback on here without people making me a target.

It is fine when people peacefully disagree with me, or anyone else, but the amount of negativity, ganging up, and hate train style of bullying that I have received does constitute as cyberbullying, and it SUCKS. I have had people send me messages in game with insults. I had to put my character on busy mode for a whole day just to get it to stop. All of my rooms are also locked, because if I don't then someone will come in and bother me about how awful they think I am on the forums.

Square Enix, I am begging you to PLEASE do something about this. Start actively looking through your forum, and pay attention to the amount toxicity and negativity that goes on. I know I'm not the only one who is experiencing things like this here. When you have in game usernames connected to these forum accounts, people can and they do cause problems in the game, and sometimes even real life.

Please just look into your hearts, and think about why cyberbullying prevention is so important. It absolutely does affect peoples self esteem, and mental health. It can't be 100% prevented, but it absolutely can be mitigated.

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Nobody here cares enough to bully you ingame. But boy who cried wolf as usual. Thats more of a twitter thing.I see weird witchhunts there all the time because someone said/did one thing that the hivemind doesn’t agree with.

If you dont believe me search things like playing harry potter because you like a wizard world and getting harassed on your stream/twitter over it.

Just wanted to wish you all a nice day, nothing more.
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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

taking NA seriously from now on.

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EN, not NA. EU is a thing.

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lmao, how did this get to the top. 2021 forum post

Do people really get this bent out of shape over their "reputation" in an online game? This is why I don't touch RP venues anymore with a ten foot pole. Wild community.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Do people really get this bent out of shape over their "reputation" in an online game? This is why I don't touch RP venues anymore with a ten foot pole. Wild community.

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I use to be someone who didn't care about reputation a few years ago. I did whatever I wanted, as I wanted. Said what I wanted as I felt. I was very careless and had no tact. And really it felt pretty liberating to not care about my rep. However, over time I found that it would cost me. I won't go into detail about what had happened to me because this isn't the place for it. However, I will say the outcome was that when it came to wanting to join statics, get into streaming, engage with discord communities, join FCs, or do just about anything. People didn't want to socialize with me or have anything to do with because of how I was behaving. It eventually hit me that I made some dire mistakes and should have been more mindful about my actions and behavior in the past. So yes, I can honestly say that people do worry about their reputation because depending on what you want out of life, it does matter. And you might not find out for years that you should have taken better care of it.

I'm not going to read an 18 page thread of people slinging feces at each other so my solution to the problem is everyone just get along.

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Originally Posted by Remish

I use to be someone who didn't care about reputation a few years ago. I did whatever I wanted, as I wanted. Said what I wanted as I felt. I was very careless and had no tact. And really it felt pretty liberating to not care about my rep. However, over time I found that it would cost me. I won't go into detail about what had happened to me because this isn't the place for it. However, I will say the outcome was that when it came to wanting to join statics, get into streaming, engage with discord communities, join FCs, or do just about anything. People didn't want to socialize with me or have anything to do with because of how I was behaving. It eventually hit me that I made some dire mistakes and should have been more mindful about my actions and behavior in the past. So yes, I can honestly say that people do worry about their reputation because depending on what you want out of life, it does matter. And you might not find out for years that you should have taken better care of it.

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I can't really speak on this without knowing context. I could say it's very unfair that people are holding grudges for this long but I don't know what it is that you did. All I know is that I've made my own share of mistakes and simply switching servers alleviated those because it was an entirely new group of people. Then again, I've also had no desire to have my life under a microscope in the way streamers do so.....no money or popularity in the world would make me want to give up my privacy and the ability to make mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Renathras

Agreed. Been a victim of it myself. Worst is that one of the people doing it reported tons of my posts to get me banned for two weeks, but when I've reported posts that were outright horrible, the person didn't even seem to get a warning. It's REALLY hard having calm and peaceful conversations when there are some people that will literally follow you into different parts of the forums into different threads just to bash you there and try to turn people against you, lie about it in other parts of the forum, and take part in big dogpiles of bashing people all over the place with total impunity.

It's not hard to be nice to people, but some people just want to "win", so they bash and personal attack instead. What's worse, though, is when people try to gang up and dogpile and not one of them can see it. In one of the subforums here (Healer), it's so bad that if anyone goes in there and posts anything positive about Healers, the mob will jump into the thread to either badmouth their views, them, or both. A lot of people just outright turn around and leave and don't post anymore because of how toxic their reception is. Then the people there cheer and talk about how they're the majority when they're actively bashing and running off anyone that disagrees with them. Several parts of the forum have some stuff like that (go into the DPS forum and say good things about SMN), but that's the most egregious case I've seen.

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Well that depends on what you are talking about and how you construct your thoughts A. Take for instance the OP. They have made serveral post in the past in regard of "Why they wont play job" because of glamour or to say the omega emote is tasteless because they couldn't get the statute.

Or for instance for you as of late. I feel like sometime for you, you might want to get some fact straight before you post.

op, I dont know if your missing with people or not but I would like to put my input on the topic

I feel like that is the internet as a hole, it hurts and sometimes trigger my mental illness. I do wish it was diffrent, wish people could be kind and read the words and follow it without making a huge fit over it and attacking etc. Sadly the world and people will always be like that I know that I'm sure other people know that. reading the tags here like daddy issues does bother me slightly as some people really do have issues and talk about things maybe we word things horriblely or not.

that said if I have ever been really mean i'm sorry for what my alters said.

I do feel like maybe I and some others really shouldn't talk outside of friend group when it goes bad whenever we feel like we have to be defense.

i sincenrly apologize if i done anything bad

Alright who is the necromancer raising dead threads..

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Do people really get this bent out of shape over their "reputation" in an online game? This is why I don't touch RP venues anymore with a ten foot pole. Wild community.

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The drama I have seen from RP and RP adjacent communities is definitely some of the wildest I have seen in any game. Pretty fun to watch from a safe distance though.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

Alright who is the necromancer raising dead threads..

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Originally Posted by TitanMenII

With a certain alt-right troll in these forums going around and spouting hurtful messages, it's really become a concerning issue once again.

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Was a necro on Page 16.

Well the Op feels bullied because people does not agree with his/her/whatevers things and issues.... which make no sense at all to feel bullied about on a discussion fora.

The way i see it is this, theirs multiple facets to the xiv community.

The forums- probably are the most critical of the game and thats mainly because people care, and I feel many times people can get too carried away and passionate about how people speak to each other

The XIV subreddit- which could be summed up as a very overtly positive space, which at times can lend it self to being overtly positive and blind to the issues in the game (partially due to the karma system on reddit)

Twitter- the social side of the game in social media forum , with its own issues with people passionate about the game and crossing over these two previous groups.

I feel this forum at times can bend towards bullying on certain topics, and people need to be careful on how they speak, that shouldn't mean we become a 'square can do no wrong' place like the xiv subreddit, but that people should think before they speak, I think OP has a point in some regards.

Grilled cheese sandwiches are delicious

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Grilled cheese sandwiches are delicious

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Correction grilled cheese salmon sandwiches are better

pls no bully

I feel a lot of the bullying in these forums are from people who act very arrogantly with their knowledge.

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Meanwhile raiding communities have public PF blacklists...

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I've seen some of those lists. It's pretty funny actually.

There have been times when I needed to take a break from the official forums.

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Originally Posted by Yeol

There have been times when I needed to take a break from the official forums.

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I've only just come back after a two to three year break from the OF...and I already want to leave again.

Just...burn it all down at this point. There's no saving the forums.

The quality of these forums the past week reminded me of League of Legends and worse than Lost Arks somehow, both of which were shut down.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

The quality of these forums the past week reminded me of League of Legends and worse than Lost Arks somehow, both of which were shut down.

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Oh man, LoL forums were legendary. Anyone remember that furry guy that would post straight up porn? Nasus, etc lol. that was insane. The worst trolls here are nothing compared to those days.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

The worst trolls here are nothing compared to those days.

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There's several gaming forums I could nominate here. The most notable would be mid-2000's EVE online forums.

Imagine hundreds of "TitanMen" types, EVE Online was/is EXTREMELY alt heavy, except a very high % are pure evil, and deeply enjoy F'ing with you in almost inconceivable ways. It would spill over into in-game gang stalking, voice-comm spies/provacatuers, people stealing each others identities just to ruin their names, etc. etc. People took it personal and were dead serious about it.

I mean this in the nicest way possible but I find this forum adorable at times.

OK, I started on Page 1 of this thread. The first thing I noticed was that the OP was saying we were dealing with fallout from COVID isolation. I thought "really? that is sooo June 2021!". Then I looked at the post date.

Oops. My bad.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I've seen some of those lists. It's pretty funny actually.

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Not cool. Have you not paid any attention to what Damian is telling us