Yo-Kai event (2020)

Let BLU have one thing. Overworld was meant to be their realm to run free and be OP.

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Originally Posted by Ranaku

I mean i can understand it, using your rockets to kill a bossfate with 3 hits alone so nobody else can get it is a really shitty move.

But using the other bluemage skills isn't that bad.

So it's clear what the person there tries to say:

Doom -> Bossfate -> Only you getting the reward -> Bad

Normal skills -> Bossfate -> All players getting the reward -> Good


I am against exluding blues in general but adjusting fates so the bosses can't be doomed or killed with the launcher doesn't seem to be that bad, blues could still use their other overpowered sets but all other players would have a chance to also get gold, seems like the best compromise here but i have not much hope that SE will do anything in time.

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Problem is without those massively overpowered abilities BLU is reduced to a job with multiple 220 potency skills that are largely copies of each other.

That's it. That's all they are. Sure their OGCD primal skills are good, but those are on CD's and there's only 4 available at any time.

The whole point of BLU is supposed to be finding enemy weaknesses and exploiting them. Because elemental weakness doesn't exist in the overworld the only other weakness to exploit is status or instant kill.

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Originally Posted by Dogempire

Just my personal opinion, but BLU is a half-baked niche job that isn't worth the effort of leveling, especially since the only time in recent memory that it's actually useful is one-shotting fates for this one event that will be irrelevant pretty soon.

Yo-Kai event and being a completionist aside, there's not really a use for BLU since you can't even take it into duty finder or do any actually relevant content with it.

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Effort? Just grab a friend and have them powerlevel you outside Costa/Mor Dhona/Idllyshire. Takes all of an hour, tops.

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Problem is without those massively overpowered abilities BLU is reduced to a job with multiple 220 potency skills that are largely copies of each other.

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Thats everyone in ARR and most of HW, except for half of them not having AE's in half the required fate zones.


Blu is miles ahead of everyone in synced content with just 1-2 AE's and 1 ailment + exploit skill. Having an I win button on a 60s cd and a spammable "do more damage than every other player combined because of overworld boss fate HP scaling" is just a bonus, which is a little absurd.

I enjoy being able to use blu to do... anything, but its really silly that if it lands and syncs first, it can keep anyone else from doing that content.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

Effort? Just grab a friend and have them powerlevel you outside Costa/Mor Dhona/Idllyshire. Takes all of an hour, tops.

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Bold of you to assume I have friends /s

On a more serious note, it's really only good for this one niche event, and becomes otherwise useless as a "job" with no access to relevant content or even the ability to be used to do dailies. It's probably worth leveling for the Yo-Kai event sure, but it's just going to return to being useless in the next few months once the event is over.

I’ve been doing these fates today and honestly I haven’t really seen BLU one shorting bosses or anything.

The biggest problem I have is with them spamming that silly little lightning aoe they have like the mobs wouldn’t die just as quick if they didn’t. The effects make me feel a bit sick and it must be super boring to play like that.

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Originally Posted by Vickii

I’ve been doing these fates today and honestly I haven’t really seen BLU one shorting bosses or anything.

The biggest problem I have is with them spamming that silly little lightning aoe they have like the mobs wouldn’t die just as quick if they didn’t. The effects make me feel a bit sick and it must be super boring to play like that.

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It's more for tagging purposes. When I was doing the event I was going from Dragon's Voice for longer range foes to Ram's Voice for close range targets. The paralysis and freezing also helped with reducing how much damage people doing the fate could take too, so while it's boring, it's incredibly practical for making the grind a breeze. Though if you have the primal moves, you get the joys of burst damaging primal moves added in for good destructive measure.

I’ve been doing these fates today and honestly I haven’t really seen BLU one shorting bosses or anything.

The biggest problem I have is with them spamming that silly little lightning aoe they have like the mobs wouldn’t die just as quick if they didn’t. The effects make me feel a bit sick and it must be super boring to play like that.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

It's more for tagging purposes. When I was doing the event I was going from Dragon's Voice for longer range foes to Ram's Voice for close range targets. The paralysis and freezing also helped with reducing how much damage people doing the fate could take too, so while it's boring, it's incredibly practical for making the grind a breeze. Though if you have the primal moves, you get the joys of burst damaging primal moves added in for good destructive measure.

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Ahh tagging makes sense, use whatever you have. Just what I’ve seen is maybe 3-4 BLU just press it over and over. The sound and effects gets to you after a while. Also would be nice if they let melee tag before they start spamming it.

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Originally Posted by Vickii

I’ve been doing these fates today and honestly I haven’t really seen BLU one shorting bosses or anything.

The biggest problem I have is with them spamming that silly little lightning aoe they have like the mobs wouldn’t die just as quick if they didn’t. The effects make me feel a bit sick and it must be super boring to play like that.

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Quick note, you can turn off the effects off for everyone but you. Just in case you weren't aware. Helps with zerged fates and raids.

Not to take away the steam against the other spells like missile, but when I did my grind bosses were always dead before doom hit 6 seconds left. Was a wasted cast most of the time due to the roaming death ball of players.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

So, what, playing BLU for easy FATEs isn't an exploit, but playing with BLU spells for easy FATEs is an exploit? I think you're arguing yourself into a corner here.

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I'll try to summerize what I see to be the issue.

Let's say I play BLU.

Why would I play BLU? My guess is I do because:
- unique gameplay.
- All skills always available.
- Skills power.

The counterpart for this overall overpower that could potentially break the balance of the game is I can't play BLU in many content. But I can do FATEs. This is even the content I am supposed to do!

Now, let's say we're before 5.3:

I'm playing BLU. I'm having a break from other classes/jobs and I just wanna enjoy BLU. So I go out and start killing everything I find. I test skills, I test combos and then... KAPOW! CRASH! BAM! VRONK!

And after a while I stop and play some other class/job.

Well, there is already a potential issue here.
With my BLU, I'm doing solo content, I chase the world while most other players run instanced content and still there is a potential issue here.
A potential theoratical issue.

Let's consider some nice random fellow one moment. For some log or Mark hunt, he's waiting at a FATE spot. He knows his target shows up within a FATE and he's waiting for that FATE to pop. He's been waiting for some time so he's chatting, getting a coffee, checking web pages... Anything that implies he's not ready to engage the FATE at the very moment it pops. But, hey, it's just a FATE, no one is around. What could possibly go wrong? He's at the FATE's location!

Now here I come.

I'm spraying rampage and disaster over every FATEs I encounter. No one is around, the map is mine and I'm enjoying my BLU as much as I can imagine. Then one rare FATE pops right on me! I look around, see no one engaging it... KAPOW! CRASH! BAM! VRONK!

And here I'm gone.

And our nice random fellow just saw it's long awaited FATE vanish before he could even take his controller back.

Now, let's say we're 5.3 day1:

The very first event implying FATEs I can do since BLU exists! (I honestly don't know. Let's say instead: )
The very first event implying FATEs I can do since I can play BLU!
THE VERY FIRST EVENT I CAN DO WITH MY BLU!
We can all imagine the unstoppable smile distorting my face, can we?
And we can all imagine the impatience, the urgency that I feel at the idea of being able, finally !, to play an event WITH MY BLU!

Why would I wait?! Why should I wait? Could you wait?

The rest, we know it.

BLUs can KAPOW! CRASH! BAM! VRONK! while others can, well, not.

The issue is this:

This FATE farming event looks like an event specifically meant for players to enjoy BLU. (And enjoy the "flying everywhere" that came along with.)
It's an event where BLUs can shine doing all their skills.
But it is not an event for BLUs. Like any previous events, it is for all players.

Having BLUs and others share an event breaks the balance of the game.

Asking BLU players not to use all of their skills is like asking them not to take full advantage of their BLU. It could limit the balance issue, sure, but at the cost of BLU players just not enjoying it.

Asking non-BLU players to play BLU or to group with BLU is not a solution either.

Asking anyone to wait is not a solution either. Whether it is day1 or in a month, the issue will remain.

Hence this:

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Originally Posted by yotsuffy

What could be nice for everyone is something like this:
- 1st week of event: BLU can't do it;
- 2nd week: BLU can;
- 3rd week: BLU can't;
- 4th week: BLU can;
And so on.
It would be official, there would be time for everyone and no reason to complain.

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Having BLUs and others share an event breaks the balance of the game. Having BLUs and others each have their own time grants everyone the possibility to fully enjoy the event.

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So, how's the event going?
Are BLUs still ruining the event for everyone? Just curious.
Personally i got my goofy cat couch on the third day and have never done a single FATE in the ARR/HW zone since.

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Originally Posted by Flay_wind

So, how's the event going?
Are BLUs still ruining the event for everyone? Just curious.
Personally i got my goofy cat couch on the third day and have never done a single FATE in the ARR/HW zone since.

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Nah it died down pretty quick. I mostly see Fate party in StB areas now for the last handful of medals

Did this event for the very first time, took about 451ish fates and got it done in 2 days... like literally the Wednesday night after the patch dropped. They buffed this event in such an amazing way that a newcomer could completely steam roll it. If they make it any easier they might as well just hand you the weapons and the mounts.

Dear BLUs, you are amazing and I'm so grateful for you on Midgard. You made this terribly grind bearable and melted the fates!

The event is really fun so far.
I've done just like 25 SB fates to get the 20 medals.
BLU could even do the SB fates solo without a problem.

Now I'm in the ARR area and I can just 1 shot fates without anyone complaining, because no one is doing them.

I don't know why everyone was complaining.

Now, everyone save this thread for the next time an event causes a slew of complaints that players can't all get something finished on day 1.

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Originally Posted by Curisu

The event is really fun so far.
I've done just like 25 SB fates to get the 20 medals.
BLU could even do the SB fates solo without a problem.

Now I'm in the ARR area and I can just 1 shot fates without anyone complaining, because no one is doing them.

I don't know why everyone was complaining.

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Because they wanted it done immediately, rather than later. You know, the usual.

Can I complain about the lack on complaining in this thread now?

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Because they wanted it done immediately, rather than later. You know, the usual.

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And why do all the people have to wait so a few BLU can finish the event immediately? Makes much more sense that all can finish it and then the few BLU can go ham afterwards.

It's really the same argument people use all the time to defending the speed run mentality in dungeons. "If you don't adapt to the group by pulling more, you are wasting everyone's time". But this time the BLUs were the ones who didn't adapt and were wasting the time of other people.
But sadly there is no kick function for open world content...

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Originally Posted by Tint

And why do all the people have to wait so a few BLU can finish the event immediately? Makes much more sense that all can finish it and then the few BLU can go ham afterwards.

It's really the same argument people use all the time to defending the speed run mentality in dungeons. "If you don't adapt to the group by pulling more, you are wasting everyone's time". But this time the BLUs were the ones who didn't adapt and were wasting the time of other people.
But sadly there is no kick function for open world content...

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Or the complainers can just get their BLU and join in the fun, instead of going "content police" on the BLUs

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Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

Or the complainers can just get their BLU and join in the fun, instead of going "content police" on the BLUs

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Sure. But then never complain about low dps people again, will you?

You can start with removing your signature picture.

Or why are you going "content police" against people with low dps but now suddenly when it is against BLU it's not okay anymore? This is still a multiplayer game. Don't be selfish applies to every content.

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Originally Posted by Tint

Sure. But then never complain about low dps people again, will you?

You can start with removing your signature picture.

Or why are you going "content police" against people with low dps but now suddenly when it is against BLU it's not okay anymore? This is still a multiplayer game. Don't be selfish applies to every content.

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I can't be selfish when there's FATEs everywhere, and anyone has access to BLU. Not my fault you choose to gimp yourself playing with another class. And yes, this is still a multiplayer game, so you can party up with a BLU and get credit as well.

Btw I hope you weren't flying around from FATE to FATE because that's totally selfish against new players who haven't unlocked flying yet. Don't be selfish applies to every content after all. ;-)

Damn! I totally missed this thread and the train wreck that came from it.

Since I did the original run in 2 weeks of non-stop grinding, I already had all the original weapons and both old mounts with extra generic medals. I just used my extra medals and bought the 4 minions and continued on getting the 4 new weapons and mounts within 2 days. I started late in the day and got 3 of the 4 weapons on day one. Got home from work and got the last weapon in minutes and finished it super quick. The best part was I was finishing off my 1st ARR relic weapon and used this as an opportunity to do the last step doing these Fate trains. Awesome!

This time around is so easy, I already completed this with My main, 2 alts and my wife’s character. Gonna start another round today with another character.

One thing is I never had any real issue with the Blue Mages. They helped out by halving the boss and we finished the rest. There was one Blue Mage I encountered that was one shotting during the slow down on one of my Alts, but after doing it twice, he must’ve realized I couldn’t get any credit and stop doing it. On my last Alt, I didn’t have flying unlocked yet in Stormbringer, so I had to travel by ground. Even with people flying, I still managed to reach the Fates and get Gold rank. There was even a nice player who decided to join me on the ground and travel with me, Fate to Fate. Overall, I’ve had a nice experience doing this.

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Originally Posted by Tint

And why do all the people have to wait so a few BLU can finish the event immediately? Makes much more sense that all can finish it and then the few BLU can go ham afterwards.

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Why were you unable to party with a BLU? Clearly the solution was to party with a BLU to speed through it.

Also on some places i made like 4x as much fate spawn bc i pushed em so hard as BLU so well, youre welcome.