Any word on when we will get an Auction House?

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Originally Posted by JackDaniels

To the people who think the market wards add immersion as well as make the game more interesting and unique: you're right, but it's at the cost of efficiency and consistent crashes in ul'dah wards.

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I don't know about immersion. Frustrating game mechanics are the opposite of immersion.

I think the market wards are alot better. I think they should adjust the number of things placed in a bazaar to more than what it currently is. I fthey dont include the AH they should link the MW'S FROM ALL THE CITY-STATES

dam right i miss the AH.. specially check up the last details of the item and check the prices to see how much you should put you're item up for. Can't really do that in the market wards.

Whats with all the necro posting today to AH threads

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

Not to mention market wards crash and retainers have to be resummoned, You would never have to resummon an auction house.

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exactly you think your crap is selling and your retainer isnt even out.... also you cannot gauge average pricing of items that are not being sold atm AH vs mw no contest ah is better!

I, too, feel that the market wards, with a bit more tweaking, will do the same job as an auction house. There could be an NPC that links the 3 market wards, have your item delivered to you from another city's market ward... for a price. That would be just like an auction house, but in the market wards. You want it without have to go to the retainer? Pay a delivery fee. :)

I, personally, really like the market wards. Browsing through the inventory of retainers is just like shopping! You get to find stuff at a really low price that you would have otherwise overlooked to search for (ah~ forgetful memory!).
I do understand why people want auction houses though, it is faster. But, what if the market wards were to become as fast and easy to use? :o

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Well, it would still be nice to have an actual counter with an NPC instead of a bunch of people standing in a line right infront of the market wards...

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That too, haha. It would be great.

Hello Moderators! Anathiel here, I was curious if you guys heard anythingnew about auction houses that we, the playerbase, haven't heard. If not, that's okay, I was just curious ^^ thanks for looking at the thread.

You know what i would love, if they add moghouses with AH, and after you buy in AH you would have to run to your mog house to retrive itams . MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
Otherwise, did i already sayin 1203912 topic on the same thema that i like ward system?

Give us an AH already SE.

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Originally Posted by Defmetal

We don't really need an auction house, the market wards do everything an AH does except that you have to pick up your item(s).

What does an AH do that you can't do in the wards?

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an AH can carry limitless amounts of people and the wards can and never will be able to accommodate to any population increases in the future. Solve this problem, and you have a case, but the wards suck as is, they offer nothing an AH can't offer and they are more cumbersome than an AH.

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Originally Posted by Lamhirh

You know what i would love, if they add moghouses with AH, and after you buy in AH you would have to run to your mog house to retrive itams . MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..
Otherwise, did i already sayin 1203912 topic on the same thema that i like ward system?

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That's fine as long as I don't have to run and warp mindlessly from ward to ward and retainer to retainer. The wards were meant to be what they were when they were initially released, no search feature, nothing...you walk in and you shop. Stupid idea. Today the wards are stupid in design because everyone searches for what they want and runs ONLY to the marked retainer selling the item...meaning every other retainer is pointless. In other words, if when you search for an item they would clear out all retainers not carrying that item and leave the wards only populated by retainers carrying the item you want it would be that exact same. The wards are a dumb idea and always have been and always will be, ask the ~500K people that left the game for this amongst other reasons. The wards should go and be replaced by a counter top selling/buying feature - call it whatever you wanna call it.

I would say the time is right, go ahead and add an auction house. Thanks.

I doubt there will ever be an AH as there is no need for it.

The MW's need some refinements to the search and there are performance and stability issues
that are being addressed.

As soon as they make HQ visible in the searches then it pretty much a done deal. I am sure
there will be further refinements in future.

There is no huge demand for an AH, a lot of players actually prefer the MW system.

Now that we cant summon retainers anymore in ANY of the uldah market wards do you think we can finally get an auction house?

The more they wait on this, the worse the problem is going to get.

Just wait, AH and delivery box will likely be more features (similar to auto-attack) that will be hyped to hell and back but should have been included from the start.

What an auction house does is allow people to set up bots to automatically destroy the economy further, as well as sell gil for gold on the internet.

No thanks

i say the market wards is more of tanaka's epic fail! sic em yoshi-P.
its just as half assed as no auto attack.
it needs a complete overhaul at the least.

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Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme

What an auction house does is allow people to set up bots to automatically destroy the economy further, as well as sell gil for gold on the internet.

No thanks

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Yeah cause I heard all the games that have Auction Houses had their economy destroyed, I mean look at what happened to WoW they had to shut that poor game down!

allow us to comunicate with retainers via NPC linkshell from anywhere to can modify what he is selling, prices, see historial, etc and we will forget about AH.

Add too a feature to can move to specific market on "who is selling this" menu and teleport in range with that NPC.


I think MW can be upgraded enough to work in a way better than AH (interact with retainer at distance for example) but personally, i can survive how it is right now if they are going to fix more important issues like content.

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Originally Posted by Alexis_Arteme

What an auction house does is allow people to set up bots to automatically destroy the economy further, as well as sell gil for gold on the internet.

No thanks

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I can't believe people like posts this stupid and illogical.

I'm sorry but I can't still get behind that the market will ever function as well as an AH can. It's been proven so far that it's a pain no matter how they 'fix' it. Human nature is about doing what is the fastest and most efficient and less hassle, and thus we get the congestion in Uldah....

The market wards were an exercise in redundancy, they could have worked as an alternative to setting up mules as shops on streets sides, as a place to sell crafting goods or materials. But they do NOT replace the effectiveness of an AH. There's got to be a better way to fight off bots and gold sellers then this.

My Retainers have been running for more than a Month and there wasn't even a Market Crash during that time, so I can call the problem of Market Crashing a low-level issue.
From the state of the game that is right now, we can't need an Auction House. We are few, the objects are in the Item Search feature, we just have to choose the right retainer, go into the right ward and buy the sh*t out of it.

Of course, in the future may be like cleaning your butt with sandpaper for reason Wolfie has stated in his/her topic. I'd like to see how they're going to solve that thing, and if they're going to solve it keeping the Market Wards system I'll be even more curious on how they'll be going to fix it.

Time will tell!

Getting sick of wards, having to run back at forth to retainer/zoneline to check prices to sell items is a pain in the ass, lieg is out of date, i've resorted to using a notepad and pen these days which is stupid lol.

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Originally Posted by Gath

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An AH just makes people lazy, with this way of th market wards I feel I am at a mall. . .minus the EMO

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i dont like that i have to post like 4 words to make my post

Even with almost empty servers the wards are broken beyond repair.

I'd rather just have a working quick AH than a clumsy broken and downright unusable slow MW.

Yoshida started his reign of non productivity by hinting at an upcoming AH but had do you know 7 months later and still no AH. It's not like that time has been used productively to make the wards any better either. They're just broken crashy mess.

I hope someday SE will stop ignoring the requests for a real AH and stop wasting time on useless tweaks like monster and battle effect scales.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

I can't believe people like posts this stupid and illogical.

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But...but it keepz away da RMTZ!!!11!!!1oneone

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

But...but it keepz away da RMTZ!!!11!!!1oneone

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That's probably exactly what some people think.

... despite MW bots (among many others) already existing, in a game with a blooming RMT community.

"but we don't need an AH, bla bla bla"

hippies i swear

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

That's probably exactly what some people think.

... despite MW bots (among many others) already existing, in a game with a blooming RMT community.

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Are you insinuating that all those adorable lalafells in R1 gear at Horizon named Besaid One through Besaid Ten were somehow connected to RMT? D=<

Honestly the only thing MW was ever going to be of any worth was the rare situation if it prevented RMT actions in the game.

I can honestly say that I've never in my entire life played a MMO with more RMT than this game.
RMT bots honestly make up a sizable massive chunk of the entire population on my server.

AH is the most wanted feature ever talked about on lodestone. It has spawned hundreds of threads with thousands of replies.

Even if they wanted to preserve MW as a secondary option I cannot understand why they aren't addressing this need.

It's the most requested item after quests bar-none.

when you buy from MW:
if you buy one item, then fine, search for it then zone to get it.
if you want to buy several items, then you have to zone multiple times, and that's very bad design.
at AH you don't need to zone.

when you sell through MW:
you need to go to item search to see the price of the item then zone to your retainer, then you need to exchange with your retainer then cancel then view bazaar then sell the item, if you want to sell an item that is not listed there is no history list like the AH.

so comparing MW with AH?
I'll take AH

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Are you insinuating that all those adorable lalafells in R1 gear at Horizon named Besaid One through Besaid Ten were somehow connected to RMT? D=<

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MADNESS!!!!! :O

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Originally Posted by ShinChuck

For the people talking as if the Wards are all that different from an AH in their current form, could you explain how? Yes, you have to walk to the vendor. But the search menu is essentially the same menu you bring up in numerous other games at an AH. You bring up a menu, search for what you want, look for the lowest price, and make the purchase.

I just don't get all these posts saying, "I like the Wards better than an AH" or "We don't need an AH right now" when that's virtually what we have, just a bloated, unintuitive one. And, that being the case, we might as well streamline the process.

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The difference is that going to the retainer to make the purchase serves an important purpose. Let's say you just hit level 34 and decide it's time to replace some of your old gear. You start by searching for a Velveteen Beret. After finding the lowest price currently listed, you port in and find the proper retainer. Luckee! The retainer actually has a full set of Velveteen for sale at a good price. Oh, and there's a nice looking Con staff as well....

The benefit of wards is that it allows us to operate like actual stores, instead of a mish mash of buy and sell orders. There's also the possibility of name recognition as well. If you find yourself frequently buying lumber from that one Ardarosemarket retainer in Gridania, eventually you'll recognize the name.

Wards are also more immersive than a traditional AH. They function like the bazaars we would see in a fantasy setting, and while I realize that immersion isn't important to some, it is to me.

Finally, the Wards/Retainer system has the possibility of having more depth than an AH, should they choose to expand on it. Imagine custom stall signs, retainers that have levels that have an impact on how many items you can sell and the amount you pay in taxes, a way to place a buy order with your retainer that doesn't involve needing the item in your inv, and more. There really are a lot of possibilities with the system.

I don't mind the ward system other than the fact i forget which area the retainer is in that im looking for forcing me to look twice through the laggy menu system.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

The difference is that going to the retainer to make the purchase serves an important purpose. Let's say you just hit level 34 and decide it's time to replace some of your old gear. You start by searching for a Velveteen Beret. After finding the lowest price currently listed, you port in and find the proper retainer. Luckee! The retainer actually has a full set of Velveteen for sale at a good price. Oh, and there's a nice looking Con staff as well....

The benefit of wards is that it allows us to operate like actual stores, instead of a mish mash of buy and sell orders. There's also the possibility of name recognition as well. If you find yourself frequently buying lumber from that one Ardarosemarket retainer in Gridania, eventually you'll recognize the name.

Wards are also more immersive than a traditional AH. They function like the bazaars we would see in a fantasy setting, and while I realize that immersion isn't important to some, it is to me.

Finally, the Wards/Retainer system has the possibility of having more depth than an AH, should they choose to expand on it. Imagine custom stall signs, retainers that have levels that have an impact on how many items you can sell and the amount you pay in taxes, a way to place a buy order with your retainer that doesn't involve needing the item in your inv, and more. There really are a lot of possibilities with the system.

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Remind me again how that kind of functionality can't be replicated in a system where the shops aren't physically rendered and cramped together in small dungeons?

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Originally Posted by Demacia

If you could interact with the market wards through the UI instead of having to physically walk into a room full of stationary NPCs it would be much better. We could call it.... the market house, or MH for short.

It would not be an AH at all.

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This is what i think should be done. Same system as we have now but with an FFXI-esque Ui to it, so you can browse by type much easier etc.

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Originally Posted by Defmetal

We don't really need an auction house, the market wards do everything an AH does except that you have to pick up your item(s).

What does an AH do that you can't do in the wards?

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An action house doesnt tell me the wards are FILLED WITH botters retainers and forces me to choose a different ward and costing me more money to sell items because they are on the wrong ward.

Lol i dont see how can AH make people lazy...youre already sit in couch lazying, someone stated this coment.

Anyway, MW sucks.
Zone for each item sucks.
Have to have 1 retainer for each ward sucks(if everyone wants to have most of their items in the right ward that is)
Always crashing + tossing retainers out of the wards sucks.

Unless they make it like a AH, where you dont have to zone in to sell/buy , yeah dont need a AH if they make it this way.

Just make retainers to store items, sell...not so good.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Remind me again how that kind of functionality can't be replicated in a system where the shops aren't physically rendered and cramped together in small dungeons?

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Cause then they are not shops that you go to.

We can all go rounds with this and no one will budge far. It's not worth bickering about further. AH might be requested, but MW are also requested. SE will have to figure it out themselves.