Running Aery as a DRK, had the two DPS roleplaying, not really an issue, was interesting to listen to. The WHM, however...
I died to the first pull. The first two enemies that you can run into. To the best of my knowledge I didn't get a single heal the entire fight, except the swiftcast+raise to pick me back up. Spent the rest of the dungeon with the WHM pre-casting Regen before pulls and the DPS pulling ahead of me, died again later because who knows what the WHM was doing, and once we finally finished, had the WHM say "Cant give you recommend Alex, since you never used Cover on me"
They left before I could respond, but really?
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10-09-2015, 01:00 PMIlenya
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10-09-2015, 03:55 PMGabrielleblanc
Did a vault while leveling DRK after paladin, run was going slightly smooth but we get to the last boss and wipe due to dps standing in Aoe and the AST running out of MP, to which I am greeted with "wear fnding gear fgt tnk." I had been wearing 3 fending 2 str regardless because leveling gear w/e. I just reply "I have 12.5k hp and you should have no issues healing this if dps didn't stand in AE, i did this as a paladin literally yesterday with 10k. Either get good or vote kick me and wait 30 minutes." I was vote kicked and laughed my ass off on teamspeak.
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10-09-2015, 06:08 PMDragoon130Sometimes it gives it to me sometimes it doesn't. Either way the dude was acting ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by sayafrost
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10-09-2015, 06:10 PMMeimi_chan
On reset day I DF for Alex 1 (nm) as a monk, group beats Faust no problem and both me and the summoner volunteer for the 0.5 boss.
First time I didn't touch the adds assuming the summoner had them... Nope they went straight to the healers so I had to chase to get them. I have absolutely no idea about what the summoner was doing, as I never saw a dot and in the end I was the only one gathering/killing adds.
Of course I saw that our boss was way behind the other one, even if my DPS was decent (or I hope it was, my FC says that I am a good monk, so I trust them in that), I can't really keep up alone between boss and adds.
Luckily we killed it and I got my drop.
Yesterday I queued for The Library as a bard to get my last exp to 60, tank and black mage are new, so I think "finally a slow run".. Well, it was slow pertaining the pulling of trash mobs, but as soon as we reach the first boss tank pulls without waiting for explanations.
I type something really fast but as soon as the book closes both tank and blm die... Scholar and I soloed the boss, it doesn't hit hard but I felt bad for the new people.
Second boss, tank again pulls before I have time to type, but the fight goes smoothly for the most part.
I had a bit of time to type (internal cheer)before the last boss because the tank was waiting for people to roll on his weapon and being a bit vocal on it in party chat...But apparently my explanation was ignored because we wiped 4 times and group disbanded.:mad: -
10-09-2015, 06:27 PMKeluBehemoth
I run as a tank because I expect 15 min clears.
Anything over 20 mins is too long.
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10-09-2015, 06:41 PMDragoon130
I have another one from last night. Doing A4N for the first time with a partial FC party. I've been incredibly lazy on doing any of the raid content due to a combination of my static falling apart as well as work and fatherhood taking most of my time. Friend (WAR) says he will main tank so I can learn the mechanics. It took 10 tries. Neither pug SCH was healing insisting that thier fairies could handle it. No sacred soil, lustrates, aldlos, not a single heal for 9 tries. I got yelled at by one for throwing a Clemancy at the warrior. Yeah it was a fun time. Won the shaft though.
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10-09-2015, 07:42 PMFluestergras
Bards not singing. Two black mages, me as summoner, but no requiem.
Or bards not using WM.
Or healers flaming me as bard for singing the warden's paean for the warrior with this macro that tells me when he uses berserk, so that I can block the incoming pacification. "You're a dps and we're the healers, so stop singing!" Seriously? -
10-09-2015, 07:49 PMFynlarIf you are dead you will not get EXP from kills, trust me on this.Quote:
No. You still get experience while dead as long as you contributed to the fight and have group credit. Same thing with any fights in the world (ie: FATEs)
You can still get clearance/bonus EXP, such as first-timer completion bonus, AiN bonus, and roulette bonus. But the chunk of EXP that comes from the boss itself, you will not get if you're dead, which is why I advise just releasing if the boss is close to being defeated.
Animus books worked the same way, by the way. Did not get credit if you were dead. Been a common gripe about the books for a while now. -
10-09-2015, 08:25 PMBunnyChainI never knew...
Here's another one from a long while ago (was quite hard to grasp for me as well):
Frontline Secure; me on SCH, stay at Adder's Outpost (OP), other healer goes with the rest for drones, trying to lead the party "keep OP captured and get drones/node at 20", BRD tells everyone to get Flame OP - me included, I ask who's going to hold our OP, BRD tells me they will, I don't see anyone coming over so I stay, around 20 - I tell again to go to middle for node/drones, most of the team goes to capture Flame OP, only me and (iirc) DRG at middle, BRD: "You're an idiot.", Maelstrom wins.
I check on BRD on the Lodestone - rank 45 with Logistics System mount (200 wins at least).TL;DR: Capture Flame's OP = instant win.
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10-09-2015, 10:40 PMAvidria
Had a World of Darkness run yesterday that was pretty...interesting. No new player bonus so I figure everyone probably at least knows the mechanics and such. Silly me.
We get to the first boss and half my alliance gets hit by the first bane. Apparently just about everyone did...luckily my whole alliance knew how to get the buff off, but six people from the other alliances go down. I'm thinking alright, this is fine, we can do this. Nope. Every single bane most of my alliance gets hit and several more people die. Half the raid is dead and the boss isn't even at 60% yet. People are standing in AoE's, stacking the same color 2+ times, and they're hitting the floor left and right. At one point I'm pretty sure I was the only healer alive. We wiped once, then almost wiped again and just barely cleared with less than half of our players alive.
Giant lizard guy was alright, still a few deaths and people standing in bad, and came very close to losing most of the raid during heat wave, but we got it.
Third boss and people are dying to AoE's, standing in the purple goo without mini, healers are trying to dps, our tank gets punched in the face...but we get it eventually.
Last boss goes about as well as all the others but we just barely clear that, too.
And then someone says "Hey thanks for making this my most smooth run of WoD guys!" ._. -
10-09-2015, 10:53 PMNegafox
One time I got into an in-progress Aurum Vale as a healer, and the party kept deliberately trying to wipe (it was obvious). The tank would pull and the two DPSes would run opposite directions grabbing their own mobs (3 groups of mobs, one on each person) and they kept doing this over-and-over. I figured this was all on purpose because any legit party would have had a tank screaming at people. Towards the end they admitted they were a premade that loves to troll healers.
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10-10-2015, 01:03 AMTwiliteWhy thank you for sharing. AND we're on the same datacenter! If I see something like that, I shall give them what they want! I will let us wipe, over and over and over and over again. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Negafox
Or you're running with a premade with friends in order to get that 15min.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth
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10-10-2015, 01:09 AMIagainsti
Ran Seize multiple times last night on Aether, We (#Maelstrong) won the first two, after that the filthy sand merchants and tree huggers began win-trading for the next 6 matches. They even had ninjas camping our respawn, I reiterate, an Adder ninja and a flamer ninja working together camping kills at our respawn. Blatant win trading drives me bonkers. Guess We're too good to outright beat fair and square ;P
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10-10-2015, 01:23 AMFluestergrasLike there's room for fairness in PvP :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Iagainsti
Titan HM in DF, I wanted to get the Yoshimitsu. OT didn't notice that he's the OT - but thank the heavens that he only tried to tank as he always fell down (and blamed laggs for it - in German although we had a lot of non-German speaking people there). One of the healers joined him in almost every attempt of killing Titan, nobody killed the gaol, the bard sang ballad when everyone was full on mana but was silent when the one good healer needed his song. Everyone standing in AOE like they were thinking that you get free beer if you eat enough damage, DPS was so low that our group couldn't finish off the heart before we got an echo boost of 20%. After we hit the 50% boost, we called it.
I sign in anew, hope for a better group - no, the healers were different ones, but the other DPS and the tanks were the same. Head meets desk. The bards leaves immediately, we try with three DPS, but no chance with this sucker of an OT.
I finally got my weapon by doing an unsynched run with three friends, should have considered that possibility earlier. -
10-10-2015, 02:12 AMSelliThey've been doing that a lot lately. I PvP'd a lot yesterday, and I managed to get three wins in less than a couple hours. Someone must have whined in both their Gilg LS because the premades came along and basically spawn camped every match after that. They must be real proud to have to need their little voip groups to fight dirty in order to win against a pug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iagainsti
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10-10-2015, 02:48 AMJijifli
Boss is a 4% health. Adds spawn. People focus on taking care of the adds isntead of killing the boss. (Hint. As a healer on my own I can do that 4% before the adds do anything interesting. Imagine how much faster it could be if the DPS actually DPS'd.)
Every time. 100% of the time. To a point where I tell people in chat to stay on boss. -
10-10-2015, 05:43 AMOdettBut you can be sure as hell that they'll ignore ads when it really mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by Jijifli
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10-10-2015, 06:56 AMAskaRayExpectations _____________Quote:
Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth
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10-10-2015, 12:59 PMGrevenHmmm... Tell me it's a low pun please XDQuote:
Originally Posted by AskaRay
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10-10-2015, 04:18 PMMocita
Running Qarn Hard as AST to finish up my third relic to make it Zodiac.
1st time: Party waits as I get Protect/Stoneskin up on everyone. Tank gets ready to pull when I go Nocturnal Sect and put up a barrier on them, then switch to Diurnal Sect before they pull. They learn I do this and wait as I do this for pretty much every pull, which were big. No deaths, and we finish very quickly. No Zodiac item drop, though.
2nd time: Do same thing as first. Tank is a little squishy, but I work with it. Tank and DPS do excellent job all the way to the end. We kill boss, and still no item drop.
I love it when everyone knows what to do and we have a quick run. -
10-10-2015, 04:20 PMKalsamDon't you need to be running on a class that can have a Zodiac? >.> Or even on the class working on it, while wearing the precursor to it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mocita
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10-10-2015, 04:24 PMAskaRayNot for the dungeon drops...that can be any classQuote:
Originally Posted by Kalsam
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10-10-2015, 08:15 PMFluestergras
Oh, I once had this Library run when I leveled the bard. The BLM played mediocre and didn't say a single word, then I had a paladin and a WHM who belonged together. Everything is fine, then the WHM says right before the first boss: "stop slacking bard". I didn't know what he meant (english isn't my mother tongue and I didn't know the word "slacking"), so I asked, and the tank was like "nwm him, you're doing fine". Uh okay. We continue on, WHM continues on calling me a slacker while I start loosing sight of his mana as I noticed he is a brillant player stance dancing perfectly while never getting even close to be out of mana. The second boss dropped the bard chestpiece which was an upgrade for me, but I decided not to equip it before leaving the dungeon because it didn't fit my glamour (mud green + Ultros purple = no-go) - before the final boss, the tank asked me for equipping it. I do so and say: "now I look like an idiot" and the WHM answers: "it suits you well". Nice. After BLM and WHM left after the final boss, the tank apologized like an thousand times for his friend's behavior - he had a bad day, he said. But it was okay for me as I never met a better healer before or after this run.
Yet I still don't know what "slacking" means ._. -
10-10-2015, 08:28 PMSelliSlacking means, being lazy or not pulling your weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluestergras
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10-10-2015, 08:31 PMFluestergrasAlright, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
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10-10-2015, 08:42 PMAzurr
Was healing expert roulette, get Fractal. Tank is a pld with vit accs should be okay right...never uses a defensive cooldown on anything but a boss (on bosses he uses only rampart) yet proceeds to pull full rooms with a mch (who isnt using gaius) so mobs chew him for more than 7 minutes each time. I ask him to use cooldowns, no response. I let his health dip into low percentages so he would be tempted to use some...he uses clemency instead -_-''
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10-11-2015, 12:54 AMTwilite
Classic counter-control tactic :P "That's not gonna make me use cooldowns. *uses clemency*"
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10-11-2015, 01:32 AMNinster
Ran Neverreap for the first time with some linkshell buddies as SMN and we get paired with a WHM. Run went pretty well as far as I could tell, then just before Waukkeon that WHM says something about me being carried.
Er... what?
I always thought the people being "carried" provided 0 to extremely little contribution to the duty. Like... having people run into wall at the start of T5 and T9. So I'm confused. I may not be the best SMN around, and my gear is a work in progress (managed to farm up enough Law for upgraded left side and a few upgraded accessories, but still using the Gubal Library book atm), but I thought I did fairly well. I died once during the final boss, but that was pretty much it.
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10-11-2015, 01:46 AMTwilite
The WHM was probably running a parse.. but you don't need to one to know you're carrying someone. It's PAINFULLY obvious if I'm carrying a DRG for example.
Basically if you're falling way behind the other DPS and the other, or the healer(heh) has to pick up the slack.
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10-11-2015, 02:10 AMReinhaYou are right in my opinion, but gaming words tend to have multiple meanings. The way I understand it, being carried is the opposite of pulling your weight. It means you aren't doing the minimum that's required of your role to beat the dungeon/raid. Some people, however, think that getting carried means you are not doing as well as other people in the dungeon are doing. Going by that definition you're going to be "carried" until your gear is caught up to everyone else's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninster
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10-11-2015, 06:39 AMKalsamThat's helpful. I was certain anything related to the relics required the relic equipped. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by AskaRay
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10-11-2015, 06:53 AMraelaWere you using foes? If he was stance dancing, he might have been grumpy that you weren't boosting his damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluestergras
Your absolute biggest damage boost comes from your weapon - you would have been better off spending your law/seals on that upgrade first. Likely your damage was much lower than he had seen before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninster
Had a not-first-time tank in castrum today doing single pulls and not pulling to cannons.. and when the mobs got in range, letting the big guys cleave them. He kept calling for LB2 on the third boss, and so we didn't even have that for the big final pull. Ugh. At least the DPS knew about cannons.. -
10-11-2015, 04:53 PMFluestergrasWe had a BLM with us, so yes, I was singing requiem.Quote:
Originally Posted by raela
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10-11-2015, 05:31 PMAomine1992
Lvling nin get into vault had a bard I kind of cringe realizing aoe won't be as good as a caster and my AOEs are non existent well this bard refused to use WM so I felt like solo dps the whole dungeon my fingers were hurting at the end and then the tank says "you guys suck at dps learn your rotations" I was mad lol we still finished in 30mins with my dps since the bard wasn't doing shet lol
Next vault run I look at the party list good group here but I notice something was off the PLD had 8800 hp I was confused as I had more hp as the tank in the vault so I examined him and he was wearing lvl 50-54 gears with str accs which isn't bad if his gear was up to date....the poor healer struggled to keep him alive we couldn't beat the last boss cause the hits were taking to much of his hp....but that healer deserved those comms if we had made it -
10-11-2015, 05:56 PMFluestergrasQuote:
Originally Posted by Ninster
This, pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aomine1992
Bard minus WM is me refusing to move a single yalm until WM is active, or votekick. -
10-11-2015, 08:29 PMraela
Got fractal for ex roulette last night.. I decided to go with my recently 60 DRG. It's at i165 with the upgraded law weapon, a few alex normal pieces, and the rest crafted level 56 gear.. so not great. I also just got geirskogul right before queueing, and I've only been doing roulettes (except not leveling) and hunts to level.. so not much practice keeping botd up. The other DPS was a DRG with all but one left side piece i200 (I think the belt was i190?), but I didn't check his right side. The healer was a WHM at min ilvl, so my tank-friend decided to do single pulls.
I was always way above him in threat, and I was constantly screwing up the rotation and breaking combos/dropping botd. My friend was running a parse.. I was 736 on the final boss and the other DRG was 512. We couldn't decide if he was just angry about the single pulls and was throwing a fit, or if he actually did main DRG and was just that bad at the job.. -
10-11-2015, 08:39 PMMisutoraru
this time it is me being stupid
i was in leveling daily
cutter's cry
i was so happily casting my spell at one of the edge
suddenly i got push back, i think to myself, what the heck, how come the boss AOE is so huge
then i realize i was standing on the purple border and got knock out after 15sec
i feel so sorry for the other 3 teammate becoz i m being stupid at that boss:( -
10-11-2015, 09:58 PMMihaelB
Saw the same healer 3 times in a row... regen spam/ medica spam/ cleric stance 'healed' when they had under 1000MP and wiped us 4 times the first run.
Stagnant healing randomly, pulling randomly and undergeared.... gave them a chance 2nd and 3rd time, gave up both times.
Saddest part is explaining what was wrong and they did not listen. Not even a bot :( -
10-11-2015, 11:00 PMOdett
Had an AV where the DRK would not use Darkside and the healer would only use Cure as their spell, no Medica in AoE situations, and would just CONSTANTLY Cure spam (not even Regen). Needless to say, they had MP issues, so I found myself singing Mage's Ballad quite a whole lot. We get to the first boss, I finally run out of MP with the boss at half health, leading the healer to run out of MP faster than you can clear Ifrit normal mode with a level 60, aaaaaaand we wipe. I tell the DRK to use Darkside and use his defensive cooldowns because the healer is having horrible MP issues, and tell the healer that they'd have a much easier time if they used Regen on the tank and Medica in AoE situations instead of individually using Cure 1 on 4 party members, as well as not using Cure whenever the tank falls below 99% HP. I get ignored, we try the boss fight again, WHM continues to treat his MP bar like a hot dog eating contest, and DRK proceeds to not activate Darkside or use a single defensive cooldown, calls the party "scrubs", and leaves. I've never been happier to see a tank go.
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10-11-2015, 11:18 PMWeekendSoja
I'm in Neverreap ex roulette and am still loading, entire group seems to be a premade besides me on my wife's BLM, as soon as my screen loads my son pulls my plug, literally. Lol
I finally get booted up, logged in, and what do I find, I'm still in the group, timer is at 80 so I was out for 10 minutes, they are at the first boss waiting for me and greet me again. We finish the dungeon at 65 and I get all comm's.
I felt luke this game had a pulse again. Though to this day I kind of hope they don't think I tried to log out on purpose when son pulled the plug lol