Summoners Overpowered in PvP

I understand that you guys hate us, but could you at least wait until 24s to spawn camp us every match, so that you're at least limiting the amount of innocent Flames whose nights you're ruining?

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Originally Posted by Graci

I understand that you guys hate us, but could you at least wait until 24s to spawn camp us every match, so that you're at least limiting the amount of innocent Flames whose nights you're ruining?

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:< there'd only be 2 of us of the usual behemoth "premade" (we're not XD) but you would spawn camp us anyway in the past, just coz </3 A bunch of innocent adders have suffered before... Now we are having revenge!

We don't hate you guys btw :P

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Originally Posted by Graci

I understand that you guys hate us, but could you at least wait until 24s to spawn camp us every match, so that you're at least limiting the amount of innocent Flames whose nights you're ruining?

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No hate, no spite. No innocents left alive. Just good ol fashioned killin. Oh and btw.. you can target other people with your heals, that might save some of your innocents.

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Originally Posted by SainCheese

No hate, no spite. No innocents left alive. Just good ol fashioned killin. Oh and btw.. you can target other people with your heals, that might save some of your innocents.

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Nuff said.

Graci please. On a scale of mad to mad. How indra mad are you?

Oh, and are you his wife? I feel like you guys are.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

:< there'd only be 2 of us of the usual behemoth "premade" (we're not XD) but you would spawn camp us anyway in the past, just coz </3 A bunch of innocent adders have suffered before... Now we are having revenge!

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We've never sat in your spawn for the majority of a 72, and relentlessly attack you all match. As for spawn camping, we've never done it to anyone just because we don't like them. I've never done anything disrespectful to anyone here in game (I don't even taunt people) or on forums, so I just don't know where all the animosity is coming from. Our team is aggressive and plays for kills a lot, but we don't begrudge against other GCs.

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Originally Posted by Graci

I just don't know where all the animosity is coming from. Our team is aggressive and plays for kills a lot, but we don't begrudge against other GCs.

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That implies that you have been working as a team. It's not really a team if you only heal one person in it. Think of this as healers honor as to why I am going along with targeting Indra and you down. (The behemoths aren't even really targeting the others, just you two :D It's the rest of adders that follow us that have been killing the innocent lives that you could save if you healed others for a change)

(we have had people on our server on flames complaining that if Indra was in the FL, they'd suddenly get zero heals, just because he was there. If he wasn't in the FL then they'd get heals. That's just sad. Really sad.)

You could have other DPS that are really good, but you never see them do good because they don't get the heals Indra does. It's sad :< everyone deserves a chance.

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Originally Posted by Graci

We've never sat in your spawn for the majority of a 72, and relentlessly attack you all match.

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You guys totally have, it has made finally getting my ADS hard. :<

PLEASE INDRA, RESPOND, PLEASE. Or are you hiding behind your wife so she can do all the posting?

I'm sorry, but I try to heal everyone in our premade and in general. I'm not a confrontational person so I'll just say I'm sorry for whatever we've done to you in the past, but this seems like excessive antagonism.

Honestly I've had the pleasure of healing along side Graci - she doesn't focus Indra she's just an awesome healer. Sorry to ruin the fun!

I popped hearts on people bodies as a sign of love

Indra Why do you not have my babies? :(

I Love this thread.

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Originally Posted by fallenalexiel

Honestly I've had the pleasure of healing along side Graci - she doesn't focus Indra she's just an awesome healer. Sorry to ruin the fun!

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Thanks, Anela! You're awesome, too, we miss you and the old Ultros gang. :(

Why don't you have mine!?

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Originally Posted by Graci

I only use Nocturnal Sect, if it matters.

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lol, I know people that can do more in Noct.

Me, Rain, and Azora would make nice babies

Im having fun, adders bitching about it, and im sure flames are. It's hilarious. We will probably keep doing it until feast or we are bored.

All I want is a waifu and Indra abandoned me in Mael to go to Flames so I left Mael </3 broken. Now I obliterate people to relieve myself from my PTSD. Adders are very tight atm and Flames will be soon as well.

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Originally Posted by jonbo

Me, Rain, and Azora would make nice babies

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You and Raine is fine. Azora is mine.

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Originally Posted by jonbo

I kill you all the time, but I don't go out of my way to do it.

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Of course I've been killed before, I never said I havent as I do not have the benefit of pocket slaves to go yolo every game. You and a certain adder mnk/brd from my server limit break me more than any other regulars I see in there whenever we happen to be in the same lobby. That bolded part is such bs when one of your deaths in the very match I linked came from you diving into me while I'm still surrounded by teammates to lb me (I guess expecting to be covered by ur cures), failing to kill me with that limit break, and then dying to my teammates as you tried to retreat after I retaliated with my own limit break to knock a chunk of ur health off.

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Originally Posted by Jettfire

lol, I know people that can do more in Noct.

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That's fine, even, and I never claimed to be the best or even good. Sorry.

Btw, how did this all end up in a "Summoners are overpowered in PvP' thread?

Knives.......if you have BH/BF then I def will go out of my way, but otherwise I won't.

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Originally Posted by jonbo

Knives.......if you have BH/BF then I def will go out of my way, but otherwise I won't.

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Except I had only two kills in that match.... Seeing you do that made me decide it wasnt worth having to look over my shoulder while trying to build bh/bf when my party only had 1 healer so I just switched to heals.

Indra, 22 kills. BUT YOU GUYS HEAL EVERYONE! LMFAO

Holy damn could adders be any more embarrassing in this thread? Graci is an awesome healer who helps the entire party, I've healed with her quite a few times. The butt hurt is SO REAL, like DAMN.

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Originally Posted by Zalestra

Holy damn could adders be any more embarrassing in this thread? Graci is an awesome healer who helps the entire party, I've healed with her quite a few times. The butt hurt is SO REAL, like DAMN.

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Thank you. :) We don't get to meet up much anymore but was always great to heal with you, Zalestra!

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Originally Posted by Zalestra

Holy damn could adders be any more embarrassing in this thread? .

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There's a mael guy who agrees with us, so not all adders :P

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Originally Posted by Zalestra

Holy damn could adders be any more embarrassing in this thread? Graci is an awesome healer who helps the entire party, I've healed with her quite a few times. The butt hurt is SO REAL, like DAMN.

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yo we get it, adders are bad, you dickride her, we get it.

Hmm Lets look at this last match.....

Indra Healing taken: 347,396

Gracidea Healing dealt: 266,306

*coughs*

Astro is overpowered sum is fine in pvp

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Originally Posted by Dumbledoremd

Astro is overpowered sum is fine in pvp

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You Sir are my Hero.

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Originally Posted by Dumbledoremd

Astro is overpowered sum is fine in pvp

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astros are overpowered and can't be solo'd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7tq_CV5ZMg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4OV268BjY

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Originally Posted by Graci

I've never done anything disrespectful to anyone here in game (I don't even taunt people) or on forums, so I just don't know where all the animosity is coming from.

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I personally do not have any animosity towards you, I just simply noted an observation in that the best way to kill Indra is to kill you because you are the backbone behind his double digit kill streaks. This is why I personally would choose to attack you rather than him, however with no premade backing me up its incredibly risky for me to do this so I'm not able to very much at all. The way the behemoth adder group has exploited this bit of info leads me to believe my observation was not far off though. I did not mean to paint a target on your head though which is why I never mentioned your name in my post. I also never claimed you dont heal the other lesser known members in your premade party, otherwise there would be no point in even joining such a premade for those guys, but its disingenuous to claim you place as much emphasis in keeping them alive as you do him.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

The way the behemoth adder group has exploited this bit of info leads me to believe my observation was not far off though. I did not mean to paint a target on your head though which is why I never mentioned your name in my post..

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Dw man, it wasn't you that clued us into beating on Indra's healer, we had known this for a while before you mentioned it in the forums, so don't feel guilty :P She painted a target on her own head when Flames behemoths were complaining about getting no heals while Indra got all the heals. Their words. :P
I also had the same target over my head all last week (I saw you emoting me Indra! :P) so I wanted some revenge.

Summoners arent over powered but they are the guiltiest kill stealers ever....oops wrong thread.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

astros are overpowered and can't be solo'd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7tq_CV5ZMg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4OV268BjY

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That drg vid es sexy.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

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I appreciate your reply, Knives, and for being very civil. Maybe it's just something that I haven't noticed, but it was never something I set out to do. I've actually done the majority of my matches solo/duo queue. Tunnel healing Indra was never something I consciously decided on doing originally; our group would typically run with 2 DPS and 2 healers (we only had 4 members until recently) and I'd end up watching Indra while my co-healer would watch our other DPS. We'd often both even overly focus on Indra at times, which was totally unfair to our other DPS. He'd progressively get more kills and better stats and it became an even greater challenge to preserve his KDR. At that point, I guess it spiraled out of control and maybe I was focusing on him too much, at the expense of our other players. I can concede that it's likely what happened, but I never meant to ignore anyone or make anyone angry or anything like that.

I've had numerous insults thrown at me and a few players posting my stats (the ones that fit their narrative of me, while ignoring the matches where I've had much higher HP healed -- I'd also like to mention that it's a bit harder to heal with 4 cloaked ninjas following me for most of the match and coordinating double Raw Destructions on me!) to shame me in this thread. It was said by these players that there was no spite or malice against me, but it sure felt like it last night. This kind of behavior does suggest to me that my focusing on Indra must have been pretty egregious, but I do maintain that I have never healed him exclusively (which you did acknowledge, and I thank you for that). In spite of my apparent prioritization of Indra, we did manage to have 2 other DPS from our group in the top 20 KLR this week; but I suspect that I won't receive any credit for that but will be admonished if those same players die during a match.

I only joined a premade last month. In hindsight, maybe it was a poor decision. I was much happier being the healer that Anela and Zalestra probably remember me as. If any Flames do feel slighted or neglected because of me, I do apologize. I've been the "everyone" healer for so long, I guess I wanted to try playing the game differently and see what kind of stats we could pull off together. It's stupid and shallow, but I fell into the stat-chasing hunt, I think. I didn't realize it would cause such a stir, but sorry again to everyone affected by it -- I truly let a lot of you (especially Aria, whom I've played PvP with for the longest time and deserves way better than me), and myself, down.

Anyway, I just wanted to expand my thoughts a bit from last night since my initial post was a bit vague. I respect you as a poster and player, Knives, so this wasn't really directed at you, but I just wanted to edit my original post since you're the only one who actually offered me a well reasoned observation of my actions. Thank you.

Sorry also to everyone that actually wanted to discuss SMNs being overpowered, never meant for this to be derailed so much.