Give suggestions for things you'd pay RL money for

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Originally Posted by Fellisin

That's all and well. But could you keep it too the other MULTIPLE threads where people are expressing their displeasure.

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Fair point. I can't comment for the other people posting disgruntlement about the cash shop in here, but I felt my feed back was relevant to the topic, as the cash shop will directly influence the transaction system that has failed me. Guess you think otherwise. Apologies if that's inconvenienced you.

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Originally Posted by Fellisin

That's all and well. But could you keep it too the other MULTIPLE threads where people are expressing their displeasure. Instead of hi-jacking someone's thread on what discussing sort of merchandise they would like to see be it digital or physical.

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This. 100% this.

@Amberyl Please, I understand your concern and complaints, but derailing legitimate threads isn't the way to do it. it doesn't help, it looks like trolling. You look REALLY, REALLY bad here. move your cencerns over to the other thread, the one going at 1200 posts already, its where you will most likely be heard.

Same goes for you, @Sanghelios

edit- my post took a while to make, and you apologized for it in the meantime. imam like that post in deference, and hopefully we can all move on. We are the players, We are all on the same side here.

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

TD:LR. Shut up and let people tell the company what they think.

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I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to agree with this. I disagree with throwing out 'white knight' just because you like something I don't. But please don't go around trying to tell people what they can and cannot post. Feel free however to disagree with them / call them names / argue till you're both completely blue in the face. But let people share their honest opinions in any thread they want as long as it's relevant and within forum guidelines.

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Originally Posted by tocsin

Please, I understand your concern and complaints, but derailing legitimate threads isn't the way to do it. it doesn't help, it looks like trolling. You look REALLY, REALLY bad here.

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I have little concerns as to how I appear. That level of commitment to change is why XIV was relaunched in the first place. Sorry, but sometimes the right thing isn't the easy thing.

But you make a valid point, and I've already responded to someone else in that regard.

/hf

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

Fair point. I can't comment for the other people posting disgruntlement about the cash shop in here, but I felt my feed back was relevant to the topic, as the cash shop will directly influence the transaction system that has failed me. Guess you think otherwise. Apologies if that's inconvenienced you.

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That sounds more like a technical fault. Which has nothing to do with sort of merchandise people would like to see. So it's completely irrelevant to the original purpose of this thread.

Complain about what you like as much as you like. But please keep it in the relevant threads!!

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Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to agree with this. I disagree with throwing out 'white knight' just because you like something I don't. But please don't go around trying to tell people what they can and cannot post. Feel free however to disagree with them / call them names / argue till you're both completely blue in the face. But let people share their honest opinions in any thread they want as long as it's relevant and within forum guidelines.

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But the thread is about asking what sort of merchandise people would like to see, some of which has nothing to do with new cash shop as it includes physical merchandise. So it hardly relevant at all to go a" I hate cash shop" rants. There are multiple other threads which discuss this subject already.

If anything going around ranting at how much you hate cash shop in every possible thread you can, is only go start turning people away from your honest opinions and they'll be less likely to listen or support them.

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Originally Posted by Fellisin

That sounds more like a technical fault. Which has nothing to do with sort of merchandise people would like to see.

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Yes, it is a technical fault. Which is completely relevant, because the broader the range of things on the shop, as per the request of people in threads like this one, the greater the strain on the billing/deployment system, which is already failing.

And to add further relevance, it seems the account itself may not even be there anymore to apply a card to, as Square are now asking me to provide screen caps of an access error the game throws at me, which claims the game has never even been played on that account.

So we get a cash shop on top of this service, and Square constantly write to the character database to add all these new things that you guys in this thread want. What are the chances of potential corruption/deletion problems like this reoccurring?

Pretty damn high, I'd say.

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

Yes, it is a technical fault. Which is completely relevant, because the broader the range of things on the shop, as per the request of people in threads like this one, the greater the strain on the billing/deployment system, which is already failing.

And to add further relevance, it seems the account itself may not even be there anymore to apply a card to, as Square are now asking me to provide screen caps of an access error the game throws at me, which claims the game has never even been played on that account.

So we get a cash shop on top of this service, and Square constantly write to the character database to add all these new things that you guys in this thread want. What are the chances of potential corruption/deletion problems like this reoccurring?

Pretty damn high, I'd say.

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Umm No it not relevant at all. Your issue is technical & billing not merchandising. It should there for be taken up with SE and really in a threads which deals with bugs with in the game & billing problems.

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Originally Posted by Fellisin

Umm No it not relevant at all.

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It's absolutely relevant. You're asking Square to put more load onto a system that has already failed me. How can I not think that's a bad idea? o_0

@Amberyl: Have you tried contacting your bank about the issue? You haven't included a lot of relevant details about what the error is besides unable to use your credit card on two accounts. Perhaps the fault lies with your bank? The automated system might see the two incoming transactions from the same company and believe it's attempting a duplicate charge. I've had a similar issue in the past, the resolution was keeping the payments about a week apart from each other.

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Originally Posted by Amberyl

It's absolutely relevant. You're asking Square to put more load onto a system that has already failed me. How can I not think that's a bad idea? o_0

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Ok it failed you. Is this a wide spread problem? even it was so, it still wouldn't be relevant.

Because we're discussing what we would like to see. It speculation and quite frankly at this point in time its a pie in a sky discussion on merchandise. It has nothing to do with billing or technical problems you have gone through.

Hell one of the merchandising idea wouldn't even include SE billing system at all. As it was discussion on how it be nice if figureprints could do FFXIV figures.

I am truly sorry that you had problems with SE. But I don't think you're doing yourself any favours, in misdirecting your ire at people who are not connected to your issue with the system.

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Originally Posted by Xzaral

@Amberyl: Have you tried contacting your bank about the issue?

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Okay, so now this is derailing, but to reply briefly:

No, Square have already admitted it's not my bank or the card, (and are prepared to whitelist it, temporarily.) It's something to do with attempting to reactivate both accounts on the same day. However, and more relevant to this discussion, I applied my free PS4 upgrade SKU to the first account before attempting to reactivate the second, and the second is now chucking out a 'FFXIV has never been played on this account before' error, which may well be the source of the card failure, since the message also tells me I need to apply a registration code to the account.

TD:LR - if applying the free upgrade SKU has wiped my second service account, how much faith do you think I have in them being able to maintain a working cash shop, with power to the one hundred weekly transactions?

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Originally Posted by Violyre

NO COMPLAINING ABOUT CASH SHOP. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THREADS FOR THAT.
YOU WILL BE REPORTED FOR IGNORING THIS THREAD RULE!

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And you were promoted to SE Mod when??? Oh, right, never.

Back to OT... I'd pay real, tangible money for real, tangible items. But I guess I'm old school and used to getting something for my money.

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Originally Posted by Teirshin

Back to OT... I'd pay real, tangible money for real, tangible items. But I guess I'm old school and used to getting something for my money.

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Actually you play an MMO, that's only virtual and intangible, so I can't really follow your point :)

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Originally Posted by Teirshin

And you were promoted to SE Mod when??? Oh, right, never.

Back to OT... I'd pay real, tangible money for real, tangible items. But I guess I'm old school and used to getting something for my money.

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Originally Posted by Violyre

. Feel free to make suggestions for the physical goods department too!

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So which Tangible items? as the OP did include those as option to discuss.

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Originally Posted by Teirshin

And you were promoted to SE Mod when??? Oh, right, never.

Back to OT... I'd pay real, tangible money for real, tangible items. But I guess I'm old school and used to getting something for my money.

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actually the OP said no complaining about that stuff, the Mods tend to take that into consideration when the OP reports you because it is considered off topic

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Originally Posted by Teirshin

I'm old school and used to getting something for my money.

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Yeah, kind of like when you go to the movies, and plunk down $12-15 for... um... what did you walk out of the theater with again? Oh, yeah, a ticket stub and the half-empty bucket of popcorn that you bought in the theater's Cash Shop!

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Originally Posted by Seif

Not having a cash shop...

...oh wait we're all already doing that with subs!

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You'd have to be living in 1990 to think that subs and cash shops are mutually exclusive. I pay for a subscription to directv. That doesn't mean I don't pay for movies, premium channels, nfl Sunday Ticket, or a number of other optional services they make available to me. A subscription entitles you to a specific product or service. Anything above and beyond (ie cosmetics) is subject to whatever fee they damn well please. If its free with sub it should be considered a gift...not an entitlement.

Thanks to all the people helping me to keep this on topic.

@Amberyl: I understand your plight. It's not good for them to have this flaw in their system and it does need to be fixed. But this topic is not about the systems put in place and their faults. It is a place for people to discuss merchandise we would like to see. Truthfully, it doesn't even need to be offered on cash shop, but I know the shiniest things will be put there.

Please understand that I do have a wish for this thread. It should be a drama-free zone. "Should" is the key word. I apologize for anyone that insulted you, I would probably repay the attitude in kind like you said (as I did earlier in the thread.), but the topic is very specific to what it wants.

Hoglet mount

I am already paying them money. Therefor I should get everything in the cashshop for free, I am already paying them a sub fee to develop it why the hell would I pay for it again. Would be like paying McDonalds to make a hamburger then when i get to the pickup window they charge me an additional 2dollars to hand it over, just a stupid business practice which has no place with P2P games. Nothing but a pure money grab.

rant aside.

To answer the question. Nothing, and if there ever is something I need to buy in there to have a shot at being the best besides an expansion then they will lose their monthly sub from me as well.

I would like to see underwear in the cash shop. Multi-race dyeable versions of RSE, too.

Other types of gear we already sort of have would be nice too, like one-piece swimsuits or different types of japanese school uniforms or maid outfits.

And since they've lamented that other crossover events don't make as much sense as the Lightning Returns event, as that was largely promotional, other outfits of famous Final Fantasy characters, like Cloud's SOLDIER uniform, or Yuna's outfits from X and X-2, or SeeD uniforms.

And most cash shops I've seen typically have some goofy or lore-breaking outfits, so maybe things like masks of different types of monsters, or mascot style costumes, or modern real world casual clothes.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love all that stuff to be free too. But the amount of vanity things we've gotten over the past year has been depressingly small. I don't think SE has much incentive to add the kinds of vanity I want unless they are charging additional money for it. I would rather pay for more vanity than continue on with one new outfit every three months, and half the time it's like those ugly pajamas or something.

Another unicorn mount, but with pure white mane and tail and a sparkly aura. :D

Minions mostly - they don't really do anything and they're quick and easy to toss into something like a cash shop.

Ideally they sell minions individually & market them in package deals/sales/promotions. EX: Buy 90-day sub and you get a Y'shtola Wind-Up minion code.

Something like an extra incentive to buy a larger subscription block on top of the automatically accrued Veteran rewards.

I'd rather see gear (even if it's only vanity) & mounts come from achievements or as rewards from completing content.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

I am already paying them money. Therefor I should get everything in the cashshop for free, I am already paying them a sub fee to develop it why the hell would I pay for it again. Would be like paying McDonalds to make a hamburger then when i get to the pickup window they charge me an additional 2dollars to hand it over, just a stupid business practice which has no place with P2P games. Nothing but a pure money grab.

rant aside.

To answer the question. Nothing, and if there ever is something I need to buy in there to have a shot at being the best besides an expansion then they will lose their monthly sub from me as well.

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Hello, meet income tax. And sales tax. And food tax. And city tax. And state tax. And propert- Nevermind this is going on too long.

did I mention I'LL LIKE BUY $$$$ A NINJA BIKE INGAME CASH SHOP, SINCE 2.4 NINJA COMING OUT!

Being sarcastic, give an option to BUY achievement titles... it's vanity, like name titles are vanity... give an option to buy it so that people will not work hard to earn it. =D

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

I am already paying them money. Therefor I should get everything in the cashshop for free, I am already paying them a sub fee to develop it why the hell would I pay for it again. Would be like paying McDonalds to make a hamburger then when i get to the pickup window they charge me an additional 2dollars to hand it over, just a stupid business practice which has no place with P2P games. Nothing but a pure money grab.

rant aside.

To answer the question. Nothing, and if there ever is something I need to buy in there to have a shot at being the best besides an expansion then they will lose their monthly sub from me as well.

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Please please PLEASE stay on topic.

Pretty UI skin, beautiful loading screen, there are many "option" could be put on the cashshop.
But I will not buy anything unless it "gives me a boost in-game", like additional retainers. ^^;

Squall/Cloud/Rinoa or any other previous FF main char as retainer.
Official Fan Art Book
And for the anticipation of FC's airship: Ragnarok (from FF8) airship skin

Who in their right mind would suggest that SE hides things you want in-game behind a cash shop?

Seriously...you already pay for this game...you shouldn't have to pay them MORE for things you think should be in the game already.

So don't ASK to pay for new hairstyles....just ask for them to exist in game.
Don't ASK to pay for new glamours or dyes....ask for them to be in game.
Don't even ask to pay for new minions, furniture, or mounts... as they too, should be obtainable in game.

You ARE already paying....so these things...and many more, should just overtime, be added for your enjoyment...no extra fees required. So instead of suggesting things for a cash shop, just say 'we'd like this to exist in game, please consider developing it' and trust that the monthly subscription you already pay is enough to back up your zeal for both the game and future content.

And this isn't an 'I don't want to pay for stuff thing'...but a 'I already pay for stuff and development thing' And sure, it's fine some of you are thinking 'but really, I don't mind paying extra'...but you shouldn't have to pay extra for a minion, or a mount, or a hairstyle.

Now, some actual account services SHOULD cost Real Life money:
IE Fantasia's (character appearence change)
Name Changes (if offered)
Server Transfers
Retainers (extra storage/selling)

Why? Because these are actually extra services, and should have additional fees attached to them...so if nothing else, players don't over-use them.

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And this isn't an 'I don't want to pay for stuff thing'...but a 'I already pay for stuff and development thing'

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Take a horse, paint black and white stripes on it. Is it a zebra? No, it's a horse, but you claim it's a zebra.

I can use your argument against you for things that you suggested.

All of those services are automated. They require no work after they're up. Why should I pay for something extra that involves no work?

And Fantasia is a game item. It should be craftable by three star alchemists.

Next bit not directed at the person I quoted, because at least they did give decent suggestions.

I've edited my original post to replace my all caps rant with an actual quote of the rules. My post clearly states what I want the topic to be.

• Crystal Silence And/Or Dark Discord (Shelds form Lightning Returns with rainbow crystals)
• Non-metallic special effect dye and (Starfields, Plaid, Auroras, Cycling Hues, iridescence, etc)
• Minions based of past FF heroes (Shanotto, Onion Knight and Minion of Light are excluded...well at least Onion Knight and Minion of Light are)
• Picture Frames for screenshots.
• Glamour gear that can be stored to the Armoire.

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Originally Posted by Violyre

Take a horse, paint black and white stripes on it. Is it a zebra? No, it's a horse, but you claim it's a zebra.

I can use your argument against you for things that you suggested.

All of those services are automated. They require no work after they're up. Why should I pay for something extra that involves no work?

And Fantasia is a game item. It should be craftable by three star alchemists.

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You know as well as I do that allowing you to change your character from a Sexy Roe-man beast to a dainty preppy lalafell, shouldn't be something you can do every day...or for free....or that doesn't require a little more effort from the server than whether or not 100 or 1000000 players have the same bunny minion. Furthermore, they DO currently have the barbershop in game that for 2K gil, you can make makeup and hair-changes to your current character.

So you're suggesting that now, you basically PAY real life money to use the barbershop every time you decide 'I'd like a new hairstyle/tattoo/etc. Why is that okay with you? This is already something you can do in game, as part of your monthly subscription.

And the same could be said of server transfers, name changes, and additional storage space. In all cases, it requires either data porting, additional server memory and/or changing your character 'tag' which while likely not much more difficult than changing your appearance, has ethical ties to it. (Allowing 'free' or unlimited name changes could mean someone purposefully is a jerk to people, and then uses a name change to hide'...and repeats this process often).

So yeah, SE charging additional (albeit reasonable) fees for 'extra' character service is fine...but a haircut? a toy? Really, that stuff should just be part of the game.

Oh and btw: the reason a fantasia is a 'tangible' in-game item is because it originally was a veteran (and legacy acct) reward. So they made it a tangible in-game item so people could KNOW when they received them, and decide when/if to use them at their leisure. Basically, by making it a tangible item, they made it less likely someone would accidentally use it/ignore it/not know they had it. Also, they can't be crafted as they are Exclusive items.

I'm sorry that you can't see why allowing people to change servers should actually cost something but a bunny minion should not.

EDIT: also, only the forum mods can make 'rules' on posts...you decided to make a topic, people can decide to show disagreement with you. It's totally within the actual forum rules for people to do so. As long as you aren't being attacked or called names, people can disagree with you all day and be considered 'playing by the rules' But I've said my piece, it is beyond dumb to suggest to SE ways they can nickel and dime you. But if you want to spend 10-20 extra dollars each patch for items, you should be rightfully able to expect as part of the subscription fees you already pay, that is your right. I don't have to agree with it...but you should think about what this means for future items you will want IN-GAME, as part of your sub, that you'll likely one day have to buy.

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Originally Posted by Kinseykinz

I'm sorry that you can't see why allowing people to change servers should actually cost something but a bunny minion should not.

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Minions cost money to make. You have to pay someone to design it, model it, texture it, animate it, make sounds for it, and implement it. How is it that different? It's not like when you use a fantasia you have to wait for some employee at SE headquarters to do anything. It all happens automatically. The aesthetician is just the character creator watered down, it's the exact same process except you're totally ok with paying real money for fantasia because of your imagined importance of it.

Vanity weapons and armour that replicate or are recognizably based on popular weapons and outfits from past games in the Final Fantasy series. That's pretty much it.

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Originally Posted by Kinseykinz

I'm sorry that you can't see why allowing people to change servers should actually cost something but a bunny minion should not.

EDIT: also, only the forum mods can make 'rules' on posts...you decided to make a topic, people can decide to show disagreement with you. It's totally within the actual forum rules for people to do so. As long as you aren't being attacked or called names, people can disagree with you all day and be considered 'playing by the rules' But I've said my piece, it is beyond dumb to suggest to SE ways they can nickel and dime you. But if you want to spend 10-20 extra dollars each patch for items, you should be rightfully able to expect as part of the subscription fees you already pay, that is your right. I don't have to agree with it...but you should think about what this means for future items you will want IN-GAME, as part of your sub, that you'll likely one day have to buy.

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Who says that I don't see it? I don't see why you believe everyone should be against it.

If you think about it, model changes, name changes, and server transfers are in the game. I believe it's called "Create New Character." It's free, so you don't have to pay!

What was that? You think I'm being fanatical? Welcome to how I see you.

People are claiming up and down that this will ruin the game. "You've ruined what would be a perfect drop from Odin!" Who says that whats to come for that isn't...gasp...BETTER!?

SE doesn't have to provide any of the items in the cash store, I agree. But if you think about it, what else don't they need to provide? Minions. Mounts. Glamour. Dyes. Endgame content. But they do. And every one of those take time to develop. Why shouldn't they have the right to ask for money for something special?

And as I said earlier in the thread, if you feel I'm wrong in trying to enforce rules in one thread, report me.

Name change and other player services (server transfers, etc)

Thought of another one. I would totally love display cases (like the ones in Skyrim) to display primal weapons in my private room. Some of the weapons just look so cool but I can't glamour all of them at once, so it would be neat to have them displayed another way.

@Violyre thank you. also, for that twilight gif, I love you just a little bit. pony references in out of pony forums makes the hiatus a bit more manageable.

Personally, I wish I coulkd see a cash shop upgrade to our inn rooms. like a deluxe suite. it wouldn't necessarily have anything added or deleted content wise, just a different scenery for it, and maybe a removal of the "no noise" restriction.

An item to fantasia retainers and the hired shopkeepers in personal and fc houses.