To players afraid of being new.

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Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear

But it is equally important? Whomever thinks otherwise is talking out of their butt.

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If you think so fine. I'm speaking from my personal experience with MMOs. The reputation that Tanks and Healers have is if they fail then the consequences are much dire, such as the whole group wiping. Whereas if a DD wipes, then it is up to the healer to figure out the appropriate time to resurrect the DD. Most if not all MMOs I've played including this one, dying as a DD has very little consequence. You can just res and continue back to DPSing as if nothing happened. Now let the Tank or Healer die and see what happens.

Had a bad A whm healer in AK yesterday, got to the last boss and she/he got the achievement for clearing the map. It was a good feeling, the run went smooth as butter, but it stinks that maybe he/she held off from saying that they were new because of people who ditch.

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

What is really bad about this situation is I am experienced and done pretty well healing as my SCH on all dungeons but I got to level 50 and with my own LS groups proven I can heal do these dungeons fine... But due to the worst of the worst FFXI elitest mindset that pissed me off about FFXI endgame returning in FFXIV and all people not from FFXI are horrible casual noobs and should gtfo, I don't want to df any endgame except Ifrit HM because I don't want to deal with morons being dicks and not aiding new runners or griefing a group for one reason or another, I don't roll with those people so I don't roll DF unless I have a friend to hang with on DF runs XD! I know I can heal fine but I haven't got my gears up yet due to excessive MW prices or nothing dropped yet

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Commas and ellipsis are no substitute for correct punctuation.

My advice to someone who said he was new on a Titan run, "Never say you're new. Say that you're an expert and you're charging everyone in the group for the run."

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Honestly this is the reason I haven't done halatali. My highest level is mara at 25, and really I'm afraid of being that crappy tank since mara's already have that stigma. The game's community is too toxic, don't think I'll do end game anything until I level everything and things die down.

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I feel the same way! I watch videos on the dungeons to make sure I don't mess up, but with all the negativity I just go level other jobs.

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Originally Posted by Azurein

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That's understandable though we have an important role to fill and that's either keeping mobs off you or keeping everyone healed. You might have a differing experiences but you are no less important to me than the anyone else in the party. Damaging is just important and DDing should not be undermined. DPS are the arms and legs, the tank is the body, and the healer is the brain and heart. Without you all getting through dungeons/high level mobs would be very difficult .

Edit: just to let you know I do see people placing more value on the tanks and healers do to the small amount compared to DD. But I guess my viewpoint is black sheep in that I feel DDers
need to put in just as much work and equally appreciated for doing such.

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Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear

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Well yes, it's not like I'm saying they aren't needed at all. They are and there is no denying that, but if a DD dies in the middle of a boss fight then there's no real consequence to that which I believe is what attracts so many players to that role. However if the tank dies then the boss will usually go after the next person on the aggro table which is usually the healer. Point I'm making is the fact that chaos will ensue among the group if either the tank or healer dies.

However, don't get me wrong there are SOME fights that do require that the DDs do their job correctly or everyone dies. The issue is that it isn't the norm when in my opinion it should be.

I understand everyone is new at one point, but as you try to group up, you should "also" need to research up on what to expect. Nothing worse than in AK, some claim to be new and then refuse to read on waht the fight is about and wiping 5 x time to first boss. You can waste all the time in the world you want but in a mmo, you are "also" wasting time on many others. You want to learn... fine but also be prepared. I seen people who are new who clear flyers and wall no problem but keep dying the the final boss.

I clearly state at the beginning of the dungeon that I've never done it. So far, it hasn't been bad. I can tell you it is always bad when you're new and don't speak up.

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Originally Posted by Xellos2099

I understand everyone is new at one point, but as you try to group up, you should "also" need to research up on what to expect. Nothing worse than in AK, some claim to be new and then refuse to read on waht the fight is about and wiping 5 x time to first boss. You can waste all the time in the world you want but in a mmo, you are "also" wasting time on many others. You want to learn... fine but also be prepared. I seen people who are new who clear flyers and wall no problem but keep dying the the final boss.

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Stop with this "Research before playing."

As someone said before, why play a video game, made for ENTERTAINMENT, if you're just going to read how to do everything? It isn't fun.
People are taking the end-game of this game waaaaaaaay too far and need to cool their jets.