Comparing the graphics via screenshots

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

By that, I meant effects quality-wise. The lower image seems photoshopped to me (or CG), while the upper is something you could see in our current version too.

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what good does good texture if all has the same bland color and lacking the real light effect? besides you dont know how max setting texture will be in ARR like everyone else in this forum

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Originally Posted by Warlock

what good does good texture if all has the same bland color and lacking the real light effect? besides you dont know how max setting texture will be in ARR like everyone else in this forum

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Forums= Jumps the gun. ( not necessarily a bad thing but it can get annoying lol)

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Originally Posted by Warlock

what good does good texture if all has the same bland color and lacking the real light effect?

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What good does realistic lighting if the textures are just a pixelpulp?

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besides you dont know how max setting texture will be in ARR like everyone else in this forum

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Go read my first post in this thread again. I never claimed I do. I said to wait till beta before judging it.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

By that, I meant effects quality-wise. The lower image seems photoshopped to me (or CG)

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Very unlikely. The fact tat playing with contrast/saturation/blur like that is very popular between people that like to photoshop game screenshots doesn't mean they can't very easily applied to a game in-engine.

They're so easy to apply that modders use them extensively in several games. They're at the base of most of the popular skyrim lighting upgrades.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

What good does realistic lighting if the textures are just a pixelpulp?
Go read my first post in this thread again. I never claimed I do. I said to wait till beta before judging it.

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I'm sorry, but what do you mean by pixelpup?

Could you point which one you mean on this screenshot?

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/img/sc...UB_0901_04.jpg

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Very unlikely. The fact tat playing with contrast/saturation/blur like that is very popular between people that like to photoshop game screenshots doesn't mean they can't very easily applied to a game in-engine.

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Might be, however the difference between the effect in the upper and lower pictures is way too high. Background matters, I guess.

But it's not only the effect, the textures are higher quality, maybe cause of it being a close-up image vs. screencap of a trailer.

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Originally Posted by Aion

I'm sorry, but what do you mean by pixelpup?

Could you point which one you mean on this screenshot?

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/img/sc...UB_0901_04.jpg

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Thank you for taking my comment out of context. Obviously, it was a sarcastic way to say you need BOTH if you want the game to look good.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Might be, however the difference between the effect in the upper and lower pictures is way too high. Background matters, I guess.

But it's not only the effect, the textures are higher quality, maybe cause of it being a close-up image vs. screencap of a trailer.

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Looking at the tunic, I don't see appreciable differences in texture resolution, besides a possible zoom for the whole image.

The effect is different because from what we've seen so far in the gameplay trailer, at gamescom and in screenshots the engine applies situational filters when certain spells are cast and skills are used to increase the dramatic impact, and removes them right after.

By the way, the texture definition in the current engine isn't even determined much by resolution (that is good but not exceptional), but by the extensive use of normal maps, that seems to be still present in ARR.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Might be, however the difference between the effect in the upper and lower pictures is way too high. Background matters, I guess.

But it's not only the effect, the textures are higher quality, maybe cause of it being a close-up image vs. screencap of a trailer.



Thank you for taking my comment out of context. Obviously, it was a sarcastic way to say you need BOTH if you want the game to look good.

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So...on that screenshot,does it has good lighting and textures?

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Originally Posted by Aion

So...on that screenshot,does it has good lighting and textures?

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Yes, for a small image, it does.
You still seem to be missing the point, as I was speaking in general, not saying ARR has shitty textures.

Again (why do I have to quote myself?) :

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Whether or not we will still have high texture details like in the eft screenshot... we'll have to wait till beta for that I guess.

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I'm not going to say "it looks good/bad" until I have played the actual game myself. Now stop nitpicking about my wording, there is a topic to discuss.

Warlock implies the current graphic lacking real lighting effect...and you reply with the opposite statement, and while this thread is about comparing FF XIV 1.0 and ARR....


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