Bring back deleveling in 2.0

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Originally Posted by Zeoxin

Or, you know, punish people for disconnects. It doesn't work anymore, just drop it. Why are you intent on ruining the game for people who don't want to play like you?

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If you disconnect, it's entirely your fault for having a bad connection.
I don't see how my idea would ruin the game. It did work for FFXI, no? That game is still alive, has an expansion coming out and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it has a bigger active playerbase than FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

Stop cattering to the casual market, and please try to bring back hardcore elements from the old FFXI days.

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It's sad that this is most likely not a troll post. Also the term hardcore is dumb and people should stop using it.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

If you disconnect, it's entirely your fault for having a bad connection

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Now I'm confused. Is this a troll post or not?

Dlvling wasn't scary, it was just a way for SE to implement another time sink. So, no thank you.

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Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

And what about people who have never played an MMO? Is the fact that those mobs don't aggro if you don't see them or that they even aggro common knowledge? Or common knowledge to those who play MMO's? People aren't stupid for not automatically knowing game mechanics.

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I would say those people chose to be ignorant, and should face the consequences for that.
Google/FFXIV wikies are plenty for information and knowledge.
If they don't know game mechanics, they can learn, and should.
It's the same with any game genre.

I think it's fun to make mistakes, learn from it and adapt so I don't make those mistakes again.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

It's sad that this is most likely not a troll post. Also the term hardcore is dumb and people should stop using it.



Now I'm confused. Is this a troll post or not?

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I really wish it were.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

I would say those people chose to be ignorant, and should face the consequences for that.
Google/FFXIV wikies are plenty for information and knowledge.
If they don't know game mechanics, they can learn, and should.
It's the same with any game genre.

I think it's fun to make mistakes, learn from it and adapt so I don't make those mistakes again.

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It's almost like you're taking back what you say and saying it differently and adding obscure points once I point out flaws.... oh wait... no... that's exactly what you're doing.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

The only reason I can think you or anyone would hate that is because you/they haven't played FFXI.

It was awesome. Not having it is moving backwards.

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It was NOT awesome...and I DID play FFXI. Needing a 25K+ exp buffer just to do certain content... some of which the strategy at the time was to sacrifice pull etc, no not cool. Once you hit level cap, you expect to not need to continue to level your 'capped' job for an eternity. I'd rather spend my time in game playing actual content, than having to slot 1-2 hours a week to earn back my 'buffer exp'.

If what you are really asking for is just a 'steeper' death penality...I could potentially get behind that but not until a couple things happen in game:
1. WHM learns Re-raise. It is SUPER UNFAIR in game atm that I can cast Raise on anyone and it is basically like they never died (gear isn't even damaged) but I have to return to a HP unless someone else in the party can raise me...in which case, it's usually 'weak' raise, and i get some gear damage.
2. We get re-raise items of some sort. Make them conditional, put them on long recast timers, I don't care, but we need them.
3. If none of these work, then create another class/job that also has some sort of 'Raise' ability. Again,even if on a crazy long timer.

Once at least 1 of these is in game, then we can talk about stronger death penalities. Such as more gear damage, stronger weakness (like maybe it doesn't wear until you re-visit your room,camp or use a special item), or longer weakness etc. But seriously, the game doesn't need exp loss.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

If you disconnect, it's entirely your fault for having a bad connection.

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Why should I be punished for the best internet connection I can even get having monkeys for techs? My internet has been messed up so bad by the techs that starting up XIV would crash the entire internet at my house.

Also, what about those with satellite where a cloud in the sky can disconnect you? Oh! And let's not forget lag, or framerate dips when the action gets to be too much for those who don't have the money for a really good computer.

And yes, there are places where your only choices are dial-up and satellite internet.

Oh, let's not forget about crashes. Is it our fault for playing a game with poor coding too?

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

I don't see how my idea would ruin the game. It did work for FFXI, no? That game is still alive, has an expansion coming out and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that it has a bigger active playerbase than FFXIV.

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Yes, it does have an expansion. And probably the only reason it has more subs is the fact it has more content than XIV at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

If you disconnect, it's entirely your fault for having a bad connection.

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You're right... Because no one with a solid connection has ever been disconnected from an online game because of bugs on the developing company's side. Are you sure you've played Final Fantasy XIV as much and for as long as you seem to be claiming here?

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Originally Posted by Leyza

Why should I be punished for the best internet connection I can even get having monkeys for techs? My internet has been messed up so bad by the techs that starting up XIV would crash the entire internet at my house.

Also, what about those with satellite where a cloud in the sky can disconnect you? Oh! And let's not forget lag, or framerate dips when the action gets to be too much for those who don't have the money for a really good computer.

And yes, there are places where your only choices are dial-up and satellite internet.

Yes, it does have an expansion. And probably the only reason it has more subs is the fact it has more content than XIV at the moment.

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Well I don't see how your house Internet problem has anything to do with SquareEnix or FFXIV.
If you only have the option of satellite or dial-up, then it's not SE's fault that they live in a third world country. They should move to another country with better Internet.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

Well I don't see how your house Internet problem has anything to do with SquareEnix or FFXIV.
If you only have the option of satellite or dial-up, then it's not SE's fault that they live in a third world country. They should move to another country with better Internet.

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I live in America. I use broadband, just the techs are hit and miss. They messed up my internet to that point just by opening up ports.

Also, there are places HERE IN AMERICA that only have satellite and dial up.