Great Community Btw

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Originally Posted by Reap00

This small forum community is not a representation of the ffxiv community as a whole. This forum is a haven for trolling and complaining.

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This small forum community is comprised of various players in the FFXIV community. It is very reflective of the community, you just don't see it in game as much now because they have such vague ToS on how you speak in game, it's safer to just not talk to random players at all and complain on the forums.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Again, people are just afraid to speak their mind in-game. That's why you see more passive-aggression in-game and feigned positivity. You should see what some of these people post, where they aren't afraid of repercussions.

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I think the whole "don't speak in-game or you'll be banned!" sentiment is greatly exaggerated and played up. There have been a lot of posts on the forums claiming that, but within the very same post, they've sprinkled curse words all throughout. And then you have the times where people have posted actual screenshots, trying to blame the other players for doing the bad, and they themselves are the ones who were being absolute prats. There is a certain disconnect with a lot of people on how they actually speak & act, and I imagine these are the same people that claim they've been falsely suspended/banned and spout the "don't talk in-game" mantra.

As for the people complaining & making awful comments outside of the game and/or forums....kudos to them for knowing where it's appropriate and where it isn't. This is lost on too many people. It's really not that hard to at least be civil to the randoms you interact with in-game while venting in a safe-space somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I think the whole "don't speak in-game or you'll be banned!" sentiment is greatly exaggerated and played up. There have been a lot of posts on the forums claiming that, but within the very same post, they've sprinkled curse words all throughout. And then you have the times where people have posted actual screenshots, trying to blame the other players for doing the bad, and they themselves are the ones who were being absolute prats. There is a certain disconnect with a lot of people on how they actually speak & act, and I imagine these are the same people that claim they've been falsely suspended/banned and spout the "don't talk in-game" mantra.

As for the people complaining & making awful comments outside of the game and/or forums....kudos to them for knowing where it's appropriate and where it isn't. This is lost on too many people. It's really not that hard to at least be civil to the randoms you interact with in-game while venting in a safe-space somewhere else.

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Well, I didn't speak and I got warned* (in-game). :p I don't think it's exaggerated at all, I think it just requires people to report the player. A lot of people get by, because they simply aren't being actively reported for what they are doing. It also probably depends on the GM.

One of my forum bans is for "profanity", by the way. When you get banned on the forums, they show you what it was for, my post was self-censored. I didn't actually use the word. So you certainly can (could) get banned for curse words on here, and I'd rather not risk doing it in-game.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

I will usually speak my mind in game and risk a ban. I am sorry but if you are level 90 and you can't run a dungeon and do this crap right, that needs to be called out. How do you spend like 400 - 500 hours playing a game an not know how to play the game still. I am not even talking about being optimized either people get to level 90 and cannot play this game at a basic level. Sure you can blame lack of difficulty curve, or the devs for not teach you, but the finger you should be pointing is at yourselves. I just can't comprehend doing something for 500+ hours and not improving and understanding.

You can try to say its the high end raiders that do this, but it's not just them. Normal people that want to just play the damn game get annoyed by that crap too.

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.....its a good thing I mentioned in my Post ""every so often they are in the Open world, in dungeons, Raids, and in Trials. Even the PF.
So its not like they dont exist, or they are "Afraid""" so...yeah its not Just the High-End Raiders like I said lmao.

If there are people with 400-500hours that dont know how to platy the game..odds are it might be someone on someones else's account. That or even the person may not have played the game in a while. You may say No Excuse...but the person just might have one.

Excuse you? It's BEST community BTW. We earned that award!

somehow...

probably violently.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

Excuse you? It's BEST community BTW. We earned that award!

somehow...

probably violently.

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We probably earned it by being all fake nice but the minute you pull away the curtain, the community shows its true colors. Doesnt matter since its just an empty award anyway.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Well, I didn't speak and I got banned. :p I don't think it's exaggerated at all, I think it just requires people to report the player. A lot of people get by, because they simply aren't being actively reported for what they are doing. It also probably depends on the GM.

One of my forum bans is for "profanity", by the way. When you get banned on the forums, they show you what it was for, my post was self-censored. So you certainly can get banned for curse words on here, and I'd rather not risk doing it in-game.

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Of course you can get in trouble for profanity. :X That's what I'm trying to get at....too many people seem to lack the understanding that if they use colorful language or act like a jerk in-game or online, there is the chance they can be reported over it as they are technically breaking the TOS. It's a calculated risk I suppose, but if people are that concerned, I'd like to think that we are all capable of carrying on a conversation without having to resort to profanity or inappropriate interactions.

FWIW, I've also had a forum suspension for profanity (10 days to boot!). Mine was for a comment along the lines of "if you don't want people to think you're a bum*, don't do that"). I thought it was rather petty as I only used the mildly-upgraded British version of the word, but alas, it still broke the TOS and it is what it is. But I'm not sitting over here like OMG I CAN'T TYPE ON THE FORUMS ANYMORE OR I'LL GET BANNED!! I'm just slightly more careful with my words.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

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This was back a LONG time ago. Moderators were a lot more active back then. I don't really use them anymore in games or message boards. I mean, I still do, when I am comfortable with a friend, like casual conversation over discord or something, but I've been pretty conditioned now.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

see I like to believe that but this kinda of culture is already leaking all over twitter and even in certain parts of twitch and YT. I mean just look at how heated and malded Pyromancer was with this.

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Leaking? Iirc, it was Twitter who freaked out first, then the forum start catching up alongside reddit. Let's admit it, ffxiv community are the same everywhere, only here it's nearly 50:50 between people who defend the game vs people who complain. Meanwhile majority of reddit and Twitter are people who like and defend the game.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

You complaining about somebody complaining about other people complaining in the forums. I hope you realize your own absurdity here.

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It's called "calling out", it's not absurd.

Being passive-aggressive doesn't really help your case.