Please make healing more worthwhile than Dps-ing

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Originally Posted by Miminming

When people mess up a mechanic? Maybe it's okay to let them die... i say maybe because i believe it's within a healer job to back them up (except... maybe if they mess up repeatly and die as soon as being raised (i hate that lol))

But the problem is some healers are not even healing the bare minimum, they are pushing their healing responsibility to their partner who is the same dps-ing healer which leading into a wipe... this happen more and more in high level play where people act like thay are the perfect healer... again im not saying all healer is like that

Healing need to have more benefit than just recovering hp... something that contribute in more dps or idk something more than just hp... *brainstorming*

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in my previous MMO, u had some healers that benefited healing to increase dps as well as dps giving a bit of healing. Like a shield with damage reflect on it that was really good so u wanted that reflect. Sure it ended up with some over healing but at least healing wasn't always a loss of dps.

healers kind of need moer sources of damage to rely less on their DD and their DoT

Bring back buffs. Let healers have stuff like Protect, Shell, etc back. Give them something to do that's not healing or DPS. It's ridiculous that these were removed to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Wolfsbane706

Bring back buffs. Let healers have stuff like Protect, Shell, etc back. Give them something to do that's not healing or DPS. It's ridiculous that these were removed to begin with.

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protect was stupid, there was nothing to play around with, it was on always and that's it, now if they would have changed it to a meaningful buff that would last like 20 seconds and made it oGCD that would have been cool, like an extra defensive cd to tanks. Shell could be a similar buff but for magic damage.

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Originally Posted by Samsta

protect was stupid, there was nothing to play around with, it was on always and that's it, now if they would have changed it to a meaningful buff that would last like 20 seconds and made it oGCD that would have been cool, like an extra defensive cd to tanks. Shell could be a similar buff but for magic damage.

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How about offensive buffs like Faith, Bravery, Haste, etc.?

I once played an awful free-to-play MMO (which I won't name drop) that had a class mechanic for the "more healing"-focused healer. Every time you cast any spell, regardless of type (heal, damage, buff), it would give you a 5 second buff that increased your passive MP regeneration by 10%. It stacked up to 10 times, giving you a maximum of doubled MP recovery. Now, with MP economy being what it is in this game, obviously that specific reward wouldn't be nearly as attractive. But imagine. A passive ability, that doesn't interfere with anything else you're doing, that provides a meaningful reward for riding your GCD whether you're healing, damaging, or passing out buffs that leaves a bit of wiggle room and rewards you for playing the game correctly. What a world that would be.

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

I once played an awful free-to-play MMO (which I won't name drop) that had a class mechanic for the "more healing"-focused healer. Every time you cast any spell, regardless of type (heal, damage, buff), it would give you a 5 second buff that increased your passive MP regeneration by 10%. It stacked up to 10 times, giving you a maximum of doubled MP recovery. Now, with MP economy being what it is in this game, obviously that specific reward wouldn't be nearly as attractive. But imagine. A passive ability, that doesn't interfere with anything else you're doing, that provides a meaningful reward for riding your GCD whether you're healing, damaging, or passing out buffs that leaves a bit of wiggle room and rewards you for playing the game correctly. What a world that would be.

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Edit: (Misread.)

Doesn't that just indicate too high a base cost on (filler) spells if you need a mechanic just to be able to continue casting consistently?

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

How is wasteful healing, just to recover MP spent on wasteful healing, "playing the game correctly"?

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I don't think you read the post with care.

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Originally Posted by Wolfsbane706

How about offensive buffs like Faith, Bravery, Haste, etc.?

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I would like that, of course they would have to balance them across different healers but I have always loved buffing. That is why I liked the old astro.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

How is wasteful healing, just to recover MP spent on wasteful healing, "playing the game correctly"?

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Any spell. Not healing spells. Any. A reward for keeping your casts consistently rolling, which *is* playing the game correctly.

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Any spell. Not healing spells. Any. A reward for keeping your casts consistently rolling, which *is* playing the game correctly.

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My mistake. I did indeed misread.

Though I fail to see how it influences gameplay in any way. "Always Be Casting" is a rule anyone but a "pure-healer" tends to have down from level 10 or so. So you reward people for doing the obvious by letting them do more of the obvious? The exact same result would be achieved with reduced MP costs relative to the base regen rate (especially on "filler" or "spammed" spells), so that at no point players would be obliged to stop casting.

That you would ever have to stop casting without having deliberately sacrificed mana for a niche nuke spell or the like indicates a specific desired gameplay loop. I don't understand why they would go out of their way to make that loop only to then undo it through another mechanic.