/vape emote

I think it is kind of funny how blurred the lines can be. We have whores in game (npc and pc). The WoL kills people, slaughters countless animals, is seen drinking (an assumed alcoholic beverage) with Aymeric, watches Moogles get wasted and even drugs them him/herself... yet a smoke emote crosses the line. SMH

Nothing promotes smoking more than telling people not to do it. The tobacco companies having been benefiting from anti smoke campaigns for decades. Putting a smoking emote in the game would encourage people to smoke like it encourages them to use violence to resolve conflict: not at all.

I think it's just one of many possible emotes that simply just aren't in the game.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

Rating argument is moot, there are other games rated T where the player can smoke. Lord of the Rings online is probably the closest comparison to this game, that has a smoking emote.

I personally would like to have a /smoke or /pipe emote, especially if it was persistent. Would be good to use for when I go on smoke breaks :P

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One could say using the "another game does it, we should be able to do it too!" is also kind of a moot argument since those games are not controlled or owned by SE. What one company does, does not mean all companies should do it too.

Smoking, and drinking, isn't normally seen as a Heroic act. A glass of wine at dinner isn't normally seen as bad but when you sit and drink a whole 6 pack it's kinda looked at with disdain. Smoking is also normally reserved for the villains now a days. Putting evil with evil since smoking is harmful. Granted you have the Champagne firework from weddings so maybe a smoke emote isn't that far fetched. However having our character run around constantly doing the smoking emote make make them look less heroic?

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Nothing promotes smoking more than telling people not to do it.

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Well, I think it's the whole "forbidden fruit" sort of idea that people telling others not to do it sets off other people in doing it. Some people have the willpower to ignore those impulses, others don't and let their curiosity take over instead too.

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Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow

Vaping is incredibly damaging to your health. The chemicals used in it cause popcorn lung, which currently has no cure.

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Popcorn lung from vaping is a smear campaign by tobacco companies to get vapers back to smoking. The ONLY people that have ever contracted popcorn lung are people that worked in the factories where diacetyl became airborn and was inhaled in extremely highly concentrations.

While research is still ongoing as to the long term health issues vaping may cause, there has been some research into this showing that the chances of vapers contracting popcorn lung is basically null. The main case for this being that cigarettes contain even higher concentrations of diacetyl than e-liquid does and in the over 100 years of research into the health risks of smoking cigarettes there has never been a case of someone smoking them and contracting popcorn lung. Further, many e-liquid manufacturers are starting to shy away from using diacetyl due to the bad publicity aimed at it, further invalidating the argument that vaping in itself causes popcorn lung.

Please do your own research before spouting out media claims.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

One could say using the "another game does it, we should be able to do it too!" is also kind of a moot argument since those games are not controlled or owned by SE. What one company does, does not mean all companies should do it too.

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I was never arguing that case, my case was to earlier posts saying that they can't implement tobacco use without changing the games rating. I merely provided a case where having a /smoke emote didn't cause a game to have to change its rating.

While I would personally enjoy a smoke emote in game, that is ultimately a decision left to the developers. As to the odds of it happening, I am unsure but positive since smoking in Europe and Asia is more popular atm than in America. Source

Gonna quote myself from a similar topic:

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Originally Posted by Destati

Apparently in a past interview it was stated that it could possibly be implemented in the form of a "smoking candy" or something. If this is the case I really do hope they'll add it in whatever shape or form. Besides, we've already got all these NPCs holding pipes, not to mention it's the signature accessory of a certain Stormblood villain...

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In any case, whether it has an actual smoke animation or not, I would very much like for my character to have the ability to hold a pipe. I do not smoke IRL, nor do I have any plans to start doing so, but in RP it's a rather significant aspect of my character.

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Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow

Vaping is incredibly damaging to your health. The chemicals used in it cause popcorn lung, which currently has no cure.

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Quite funny, I tend to Vape too much even with 12mg of Nicotine that is in Shake 'n Vape Liquids.
My Health has gotten better and yes, I do have Asthma and smoked a Pack of Cigarettes before.

Trust me, there is a difference between not being able to sleep because you can't breathe anymore or being able to take a deep breath without Problems.

Just false Propaganda spread by the Tobacco Companies, that's mainly due of the Fact that Vaping becomes a lot cheaper if you get into "DIY" and by cheaper I mean a lot cheaper.

Please, if you are so aware of the chemicals in Liquids, just write them down here. Usually ends up funny once you realize those Chemicals are also used in your Daily Life =)

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I'd be for an Allagan E-Cigarette in Tube Style, if not a simple Stacked Tube when it comes to the size of that thing.

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Originally Posted by Kyuuen

Some of the argumentation in this thread is absolutely, mind numbingly silly.

The game is already rated for Alchol and Tobacco and the PC's usage; or lack thereof, is not going to change that rating.

As to the comment of it affecting the ratings in other countries. Simple solution, don't release that emote in that/those country/ies.

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Actually, I believe there's differences in rating based on if something is just shown, vs if the player can participate.