[dev1206] Traits Question

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Originally Posted by grandm

i know why a certain class has a certain trait. what i'm asking is how a trait to increase your damage output can be passive. passive is when your weapons is away, no?

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Not in this context. It just means that it doesn't require any action to be taken. It is "always on."

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Originally Posted by grandm

i know why a certain class has a certain trait. what i'm asking is how a trait to increase your damage output can be passive. passive is when your weapons is away, no?

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It works the same way traits do now. You equip 'em, they work. No action is required.

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Originally Posted by grandm

i know why a certain class has a certain trait. what i'm asking is how a trait to increase your damage output can be passive. passive is when your weapons is away, no?

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I think I can see where you're coming from now.

Passive abilities is a game term that means its always on.
Active abilities is a term that means the player (or NPC) has to turn on the ability themselves.

Like eating a lalafell is an active ability. My body digests the rest passively.

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Originally Posted by Krausus

we already have the bar in game so unless they plan to remove that bar which it didnt state they where then i think it is a safe bet that it will still be there tomorrow.

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Well I know about THAT bar, But I mean does it require us to USE traits on the action bar since they have a recast time?

which makes sense until i read recast time, is this a typo then?

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Originally Posted by Belial

Traits have always had a separate bar, makes no sense to change that now.

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Theory, but what the recast timers could refer to is when these traits "go active." As not all traits are active at all times, some require ability triggers.

Meaning, this trait activates due to WS1, Trait remains on cooldown for ~length of recast timer~.

Not likely, but possible.

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Or it could me that if you swap jobs you can't immediately use the trait.

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Originally Posted by grandm

which makes sense until i read recast time, is this a typo then?

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Thats the point of this thread but seem to be confusing people lol

My thought is that the timers are so that you cannot immediately have the trait active when switching jobs. I can't think of an extreme example but say a GLA wanted to switch over to a mage class for immediate MP recovery during a boss battle. Something to that effect. Not sure if this is the reason but it makes sense to slightly nerf the changing of jobs during NM or boss battles. Prevents the job swapping = equipment swapping of FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Rubicon

Or it could me that if you swap jobs you can't immediately use the trait.

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That was mentioned earlier as well. Who knows, really. Now taking bets, patch drops first, dev responds first, go.

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Originally Posted by grandm

which makes sense until i read recast time, is this a typo then?

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for now I'm assuming it is a typo, just like none of the CON traits being exclusive is probably also a typo.