The end of Playstation 3 support.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

PS3 released in 2006....

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XIV on PS3 wasn't released until 2013 though. So I'm sure SE knew of the shortcoming it would have and made it anyways. So from consumer standpoint doesn't matter when the system came out it when the came game out.

This is like old news already.....

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Originally Posted by Lexia

XIV on PS3 wasn't released until 2013 though. So I'm sure SE knew of the shortcoming it would have and made it anyways. So from consumer standpoint doesn't matter when the system came out it when the came game out.

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SE made a promise regarding FFXIV on PS3 which they kept - which is unusual in and of itself, but especially given the circumstances. When FFXIV was re-built the expanded PC compatibility included PCs that were contemporary to the original PS3. If you look at the actual specifications and issues that low end PCs experienced, it reads very similarly to the issues players experienced with PS3.

Back in the day, I used PS3 as did my wife and son, we all upgraded to PS4 and never looked back - so to speak. However the only real issue we ever experienced with the PS3 was when fighting Odin, or the hunt zerg rushes. Labyrinth of the Ancients (24-player) was never a problem, frame rates were sometimes low, but rarely unplayably so. the Svara fate in Coerthas was the one other issue early on, but once the draw priority was changed, it improved.

However those same issues existed for players with lower end PCs, so I don't see your argument here.

Please read next as it's not directed to anyone specificly. It's just my personnal impression. Don't overreact or take it for yourself.

Reading through posts about "console vs PC", I understand that PC players only care about what a game should look like. "I have an expensive powerful stuff! Games MUST use it! XIV developers are stupid if they can't make my rig SHINE!

O.M.G. Ok, let's do some analogy

What if developers are, say, kart racing enthusiast? They build nice tracks for other kart racing enthusiasts. Everyone can happely come, only requirement being to have one's own kart and pay some entrance fee.
Then one rich enthusiast comes with his fomula one and complains it won't be useful. The tracks are too small, too winding, too narrow. Tracks must be adjusted to formula one's standards! Damn!

With my console, I consider myself a kart enthusiast. I'm happy I can go to tracks designed for karts. I know Fomula Ones go faster. It's just way out of reach.

Don't tell me I'm poor with my kart when you can have a formula one. Don't tell me tracks must all be designed for formula ones because you have one. Don't tell me my karting disturbs your racing.

Go to Formula one tracks or get a kart and have fun with us.

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Originally Posted by Adire

...Can a brand new console surpass or even match the graphics and features of a brand new PC built at the same time?

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Compare a brand new 400$ console (ps4 pro) with a brand new 400$ PC and let me know.

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Originally Posted by yotsuffy

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As Maero stated, this is old news.

A lot of PC players have always looked upon consoles as lowly peasants, while consoles see them as stuck up and entitled, been that way for a long time and I don't see the attitudes changing any time soon

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Compare a brand new 400$ console (ps4 pro) with a brand new 400$ PC and let me know.

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Compare a $1000 budget gaming PC's future proof-ness to the future proof-ness of a console and the amount of money you save on steam sales on games vs paying full price for years on console games and let me know which is more bang for your buck.

Compare the time saved just buying a console and playing the bally game versus researching a compatible build and wrestling with drivers, system updates breaking things and bizarre unique-sounding bugs (check out the PC ratio in bug reports). If you're a PC enthusiast anyway PC gaming makes perfect sense. If you hate the wretched things and just want to play a game with everyone else without being the scapegoat for hundreds of problems that have nothing to do with you, console is fine and it's the Windows Police who have the problem. If you guys want a better featureset, please ask for that instead of trying to criticise how people you've never met enjoy (and fund) the game.

PlayStation support helped save this game your welcome get off your high horses.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

I think it's a bit mean-spirited to be honest. I'm on PS4 - the PS3 version is objectively terrible to play on anyway - but I played the PS2 version of FFXI from its year of release to the year it ended service and the constant clamouring for me to leave the game made me never visit its forums. With FFXIV, the console gamers who were signed up for the beta from its initial announcement already missed out on the whole of 1.x and have had to endure years of barbs and criticism from privileged people who think their own hunger for better textures and features trumps the right of others to play the game at all. Even though there's no evidence those better features are coming, or that the majority of them are even being held back due to the PS3 in the first place.

Even though the actual problem now is obviously going to be old PCs (32-bit setups, graphics drivers as explicitly cited by YoshiP in interviews) I just know that 'PS4 limitations' is going to be the new refrain from people too ignorant to concede that not everyone on Windows is running a tricked out gaming box (or that many limitations are related to servers/network considerations). Even though my PS4 is a million times better as a gaming machine than my PC, I'm preparing to hear the whining once again.

I support the end of PS3 service in this case, but I think the community reaction to the announcement is utterly mean-spirited.

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It is not mean spirited, they act in joy because how much it brings down the game.
"We want more inventory space"
can't, ps3 limitations.

The reason ps3 was not open to the game at all in 1.0 had partly to do with that. It couldn't handle all the data with all the items. There used to be 3 versions of every item in the game. Also the devs had problems degrading the graphic detail enough to let the Ps3 to handle it. The Ps3 could not handle FFXIV 1.0, that is why it was never released, has nothing to do with being mean spirited.

Crafters, people that like to glam gear, and people that gear a lot of different jobs well lack space to even function, because of "Ps3 limitations" Same thing with FFXI, people got sick and tried of hearing no ps2 limitations, so what do you do? discontinue the game for them.