Patch 3.38, 8/23

We know all that the only reason for the 7 week grind for the lore weapon is they fucked up the 210 grind step of the relic and make the relic worth again by a shorter grind then the lore weapon...

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Originally Posted by Eul

At this time? Most people already got their 240 anima weapon so I bet they don't care with 240 midan weapon.

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Tech the midan weapon is 245 so it's the best by wdmg standards in the game but man the secondaries suck, for black mage anyway.

But you're right, the midan weapon is hardly the carrot on the stick I want when it comes to getting the motivation to run m4s.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

What are you proposing then run M4 once and get your weapon? Is that what you want? Then upgrade it to 240 with upgrade items probably already sitting on your retainer?

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take the Weekly lockout off of M4 (leave it at 7 items) and make the upgrade item cost 2 Pennies and 2 Farthings.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

take the Weekly lockout off of M4 (leave it at 7 items) and make the upgrade item cost 2 Pennies and 2 Farthings.

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Not happening until relic is at the next level. I think those who propose this can dream but I'd be very surprised to see that happen now.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Running M4 takes 10 minutes at most. You can have the weapon in about an hour. And again, it's no longer a 230 weapon, it's a 240 with upgrade. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the make everything easier crowd. A 240 weapon comparable to relic shouldn't be given away cause people want it with little effort.

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Should be given away if I want it.
I am a paying customer.
I am entitled to anything I want.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Not happening until relic is at the next level. I think those who propose this can dream but I'd be very surprised to see that happen now.

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so what do you think the upgrade item will cost? we're going to get i250 weapons in like 6 weeks.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

so what do you think the upgrade item will cost? we're going to get i250 weapons in like 6 weeks.

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No idea just hope it's not too painful. I have two 240 relics (black and white mage) and two 230's (bard and astro) so I definately have a lot of time and effort invested in them.

Oh look I was was wating for the complaints to start again when people are given a chance to catch up and upgrade their gear no matter their playstyle... It's far too predictable.

Coz you know only very special people should be able to upgrade their gear at all.

Everyone else should only have it happen around twice a year since they "don't need it".

Every single relic step is going to get nerfed eventually, you had better get used to it. If you are annoyed that you spent more time doing it that others with the patience to wait for the nerf then you only have yourself to blame. No-one made you do it and it's common knowledge that the steps get nerfed further down the line.

Hmm, The Rising seasonal event should start soon as well, right? Could be part of what the patch is for. Hoping the Wind-up Krile is added.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Not happening until relic is at the next level. I think those who propose this can dream but I'd be very surprised to see that happen now.

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They're not gonna wait until 3.45 to remove the lockout from the M4 token, which is when the next relic step will be added.

If the lockout isn't removed in 3.38, then it'll definitely be removed in 3.4, so either in 1 week or about 5 weeks.