I am disappointed with Deep Dungeon

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

I was just thinking about another games similar content (pretty much the same thing as Deep Dungeon) but they utilised SO many aspects of the game. Yep, Runescape 'Dungeoneering'.

They had different colour keys for different rooms, had weapons and armour actually drop so killing mobs was exciting, and even used gathering and crafting classes such as setting fire to trees which blocked doors. This can easily be implemented into FF. They also had really fun puzzles and riddles to access rooms. All of those were optional though so nobody could complain about progression if they didn't have the levels.

Those are just a few examples to add some depth into the content.

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Deep Dungeon will be expanded on the next patches. They already stated it.

personally, I LOVED IT. This is what I wanted Diadem to be. Now I want a version where everything is ABSOLUTE DARKNESS and you only have your weapon to light your path.

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Originally Posted by Tyrn

Almost everything in this game is a bloody tutorial.

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Hall of the Novice (how to be a {CLASS/JOB}, Guildhests (how to be a party) and now Palace of the Dead (will you enjoy being a {CLASS/JOB})

Palace of the Dead is currently the only content in the game that let's newbies decide if the Job they chose at the start is the Job they want to be from Level 17 to 60 (if not, then they can test out the other Jobs, excluding the HW Jobs). I see the flaws in this content, but again, I was never hyped for it to begin with. I do have expectations for Floor 51-200, but I am still keeping my hype in the basement and underneath the trapdoor.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

Deep Dungeon will be expanded on the next patches. They already stated it.

personally, I LOVED IT. This is what I wanted Diadem to be. Now I want a version where everything is ABSOLUTE DARKNESS and you only have your weapon to light your path.

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I'm just giving some suggestions! But I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

If you went read "floors after 50 will be more challenging, going without a full party will be more challenging" and still went in with a tank, healer, and 2 DPS, what were you expecting?

This is the same thing as Savage and why people aren't interested kinda. You go in DD with 4 people (easy mode) then you get disappointed because it's easy/bland. All incentive to do a harder version is lost.

Doing it without 4 people, at least 2, and no healers makes it that challenge that requires deeper thought.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

If you went read "floors after 50 will be more challenging, going without a full party will be more challenging" and still went in with a tank, healer, and 2 DPS, what were you expecting?

This is the same thing as Savage and why people aren't interested kinda. You go in DD with 4 people (easy mode) then you get disappointed because it's easy/bland. All incentive to do a harder version is lost.

Doing it without 4 people, at least 2, and no healers makes it that challenge that requires deeper thought.

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I tried the 'harder version' before I entered with a group and it was even more tedious. It does not change the fact the content is bland. Just because I'm getting hit harder and have to pull one mob at a time does not make the content fun either.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

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I don't know. To each their own then I guess. I liked the extra challenge and planning it took.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

I don't know. To each their own then I guess. I liked the extra challenge and planning it took.

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Still I'm genuinely glad you enjoyed it. These are all just my own opinions, it's nice that some people really do like it :)

Have to agree that it's quite disappointing: I haven't finished it yet due to the lack of healers (and the fact that the last boss was a complete 180, making us unprepared for the fight) but I really felt it was a bore, with basically no real incentives to try again except for grabbing my "possible weapon". Since I don't like EX trials, that would be my best bet. However if they said that they'll patch it for future events (any quotes? I'd like to see the actual words from him), then I have no issues...but I'm not putting my hopes too high.

I guess back to Aquapolis after I'm done with this. Got more incentives to do that at least.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

I'm just giving some suggestions! But I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

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Good suggestions, in my opinion.

I'm not sure working in other classes, like gathering and crafting, will be at all likely or even at all easy to implement...given how the current set-up with save files is very much locked into one class ("One classh only, please") I have no idea if the code for it allows for switching. But puzzle rooms, areas accessed via keys, secrets to be found via unconventional means...would love to see those added.

At the time of this posting I'm omw home from work. Not having a chance to check out the new palace stuff I decided to check the forums to see what ppl are saying. Everyone is saying it's too easy,lack of creativity, lack puzzles or mechanics and a disapproval of the development team...well duhh they said from the very beginning it was gonna be easy and wasn't gonna feel hard till post50 & 100. After reading all the post my big disappointment is more with us, the community.