Diadem Leeches

Seems to be par for the course with SE.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

They should of never lumped gathers and combat together and no they are not leechers cause that the only way a person can get to that area and gather mats from that area. Cause not all FCs have a house.

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The ones that laugh about it, and roll on all loots dropped are most definitely leechers.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Read my post again I added more cause i posted reply before actually saying all i wanted to.

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Also, remember that when they aren't participating in the battles, it makes it much more difficult to achieve credit enough to get loots.
Either they should be unable to roll, or anything that they gather should go into the loot list for the party. If they can get combat loot without participating, they the gathering stuff should be obtainable by those not gathering. It would only be fair, and would serve to stem the leeches. There would still be the issue of those who join and just afk though.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

The ones that laugh about it, and roll on all loots dropped are most definitely leechers.

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Read my post again I added more cause i posted reply before actually saying all i wanted to.

They should make it that those not in range of the fights don't get the option to roll. Leaching is definitely annoying especially without the option to Need.

Like, with Gathering it's not like everyone in the party has an option to greed on the gathering item that is procured.

Well, I'm just gonna say it, because it seems that People want to criticize SE for not foreseeing something that they themselves clearly missed as well. If you run this content in PUG rather than a FC or LS based pre-made group, then you are explicitly accepting players with different goals from your own. You all want SE to be on the hook for not implementing some kind of countermeasure to leeching, which you say was such an obvious flaw. Except it was clearly not such an obvious flaw to you since you didn't use better precautions about who to take on a mission eh?

If you don't want leeches, do the content with friends, FC mates or LS members you know and trust, otherwise you'll need to be wary of unknown members of the PUG you take a long.

As I said in an earlier reply, I'd rather that SE take the more hopeful and optimistic approach of assuming the best from people, after all, are not people innocent until proven guilty? If they were to expect the worst and treat everyone as suspected cheaters, liars, exploiters and abusers, I sincerely doubt FFXIV would be the game it is, and far fewer of us would be playing it.

I think in DF groups in you're in gathering jobs you shouldn't be able to lot on loot. Screw it.

I already have been avoiding it, I don't want to babysit gatherers.

You shouldn't be able to lot if you didn't participate in the fight. Pretty straightforward. Gatherers keep what they gathered. Everyone irregardless should then be able to roll on a chest. Really not sure why it doesn't work like that because then there would be few(er) issues.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Well, I'm just gonna say it, because it seems that People want to criticize SE for not foreseeing something that they themselves clearly missed as well. If you run this content in PUG rather than a FC or LS based pre-made group, then you are explicitly accepting players with different goals from your own. You all want SE to be on the hook for not implementing some kind of countermeasure to leeching, which you say was such an obvious flaw. Except it was clearly not such an obvious flaw to you since you didn't use better precautions about who to take on a mission eh?

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Isn't removing a party member for different playstyle a legitimate reason? We should at the very least be given the option to remove them.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed

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Originally Posted by Pence

Isn't removing a party member for different playstyle a legitimate reason? We should at the very least be given the option to remove them.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed

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Which is probably at least partly why SE disabled the vote dismiss system for this content. Otherwise, anyone not on a battle class would get kicked.

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Originally Posted by Pence

Isn't removing a party member for different playstyle a legitimate reason? We should at the very least be given the option to remove them.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed

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SE won't do that cause you know why? As soon as someone switches to gather they would be kicked, pretty sure SE saw that far ahead which is why it was disabled. Should their be a better system yes, as I said in earlier posts gathers and combat should of never been lumped together to begin with.