Chocobos and Airships (09/22/2011)

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Originally Posted by DNO

Not everything has to be hard a dufficult to get. Chocos are gonna be the standard and should be easy to get.

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Again, you seem to think effort implies difficulty, which is rather odd if you wouldn't mind me saying.
Effort is getting off the sofa to get the remote for your TV instead of getting someone else to hand it to you. There's no difficulty involved (unless you're disabled, but that's an entirely different story) is there? It just takes you, the player, to carry out a task.

SE could quite easily put in a brief story similar to the one in FFXI (while not taking 6 hours to complete) prior to obtaining the usage of rental Chocobos. This would give them a chance to show off their storytelling skills that they have been well known for and would allow the player to become more emotionally involved with the game. I do not see why this is a bad thing. Can you tell me why this is a bad thing?

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Originally Posted by DNO

then you will stop complaining about everything.

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That's funny. I'm pretty sure I only complained about the lack of rewarding and interesting quests, not this 'everything' you speak of.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Oh and another fun surprise, no requirements for using the airships...

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Why should we have any? Do you have to be a certain age (rank) or pass a test (quest) to ride a bus or boat? Same applies here.

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Originally Posted by DNO

Right you are corret about 1 thing and thats not everyone wants to do what YOU want to do.

So thanks for proving me correct.

and thanks im glad you acknowledge that i am correct.

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You were trying to argue that MMORPGs are all about endgame. Trying to argue that I'm trying to bend this game in to something only I want is rather hypocritical when you are the one stating that it's only about endgame.

Storytelling is paramount to an RPG of any type, regardless of whether it's offline or online so an MMORPG should incorporate as much story and lore in as many opportunities as it gets. Story and lore expands the game world and keeps players interested. I'm not saying that combat isn't important too, because it is. But there seems to be way too much of a focus on battle and not enough on the actual world itself.
Chocobos and airships would have been great opportunities to show SE's storytelling skills.

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Originally Posted by Adol

Again, you seem to think effort implies difficulty, which is rather odd if you wouldn't mind me saying.
Effort is getting off the sofa to get the remote for your TV instead of getting someone else to hand it to you. There's no difficulty involved (unless you're disabled, but that's an entirely different story) is there? It just takes you, the player, to carry out a task.

SE could quite easily put in a brief story similar to the one in FFXI (while not taking 6 hours to complete) prior to obtaining the usage of rental Chocobos. This would give them a chance to show off their storytelling skills that they have been well known for and would allow the player to become more emotionally involved with the game. I do not see why this is a bad thing. Can you tell me why this is a bad thing?



That's funny. I'm pretty sure I only complained about the lack of rewarding and interesting quests, not this 'everything' you speak of.

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Or they could give us finally a faster means of travel after a year of walking? Something that should of been in the game at the start?

Being as this is the FIRST step in chocos raising it should require little effort.

Again look for dufficulty, effort or whatever new word you make up in BATTLES (Raids, endgame, ifrit battle, materia etc)
then you wont be angry at everything SE adds.

P.S a little story in getting a choco will be JUST as boring btw. it will add nothing. So let me travel faster and save the good CS for actual conent.

I'd rather have a Moogle mount, but that's just me.

How is it in any way unreasonable to want a quest through which to obtain a reward?

I'm sick of everything in the game being handed to us. The point of a game is to have something to do. If there is nothing to earn there is no sense of progress. Gaining the ability to use the airships or the chocobos is a sign of advancement and a much need goal to achieve. This game has absolutely no goal for users to achieve accept hitting level 50. An MMO needs more things to work towards than the next level, the next dungeon, and the next piece of armour. It's not supposed to be solely about getting stronger.

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Originally Posted by DNO

Or they could give us finally a faster means of travel after a year of walking? Something that should of been in the game at the start?

Being as this is the FIRST step in chocos raising it should require little effort.

Again look for dufficulty, effort or whatever new word you make up in BATTLES (Raids, endgame, ifrit battle, materia etc)
then you wont be angry at everything SE adds.

P.S a little story in getting a choco will be JUST as boring btw. it will add nothing. So let me travel faster and save the good CS for actual conent.

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What your saying is absurd. If you only want to fight things you should not be playing an RPG.

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Originally Posted by Adol

You were trying to argue that MMORPGs are all about endgame. Trying to argue that I'm trying to bend this game in to something only I want is rather hypocritical when you are the one stating that it's only about endgame.

Storytelling is paramount to an RPG of any type, regardless of whether it's offline or online so an MMORPG should incorporate as much story and lore in as many opportunities as it gets. Story and lore expands the game world and keeps players interested. I'm not saying that combat isn't important too, because it is. But there seems to be way too much of a focus on battle and not enough on the actual world itself.
Chocobos and airships would have been great opportunities to show SE's storytelling skills.

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again you are taking your own opinions and making them fact. i Could care a less about the story. all the MMOS i have played have been about the endgame and thats what has kept me playing.

People are different and do not want everything YOU want all the time. I want to travel faster and not wait on a boat or have a stupid quest that adds nothing to the chocos. Thats what YOU want. the only hypocritical person here is you.. There does not have to be effort and story in everything. Chocos are a faster means of travel and that is it.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

What your saying is absurd. If you only want to fight things you should not be playing an RPG.

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thats your opinion that i do not share. i think what your saying is absurd. Chocos are not content SE should worry about. add them fast then fix the game with REAL content .

It does not matter SE gets this and they are doing it my way. So who cares.

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

Why should we have any? Do you have to be a certain age (rank) or pass a test (quest) to ride a bus or boat? Same applies here.

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The point of a game is to be entertaining. If you simply give everything to players then there is nothing to do.

MMOs are supposed to have more than just raids in them.