Idea against Undercutting at the Marketboard (The next.. )

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Originally Posted by Melondra

One slight altercation to the MB system would resolve a lot of problems remove the current listing prices from the MB only show what the item has sold for after it is sold, this will prevent massive deflation and undercutting, and the MB system can remain as is, so long as u can see every item and what everyone has that item up for you will continue to have massive deflation. When u have massive deflation of a item in a matter of minutes there is a severe problem.

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So buyers need to guess and test the price? What's up if a zero is added when testing the price? Call a GM for restoration? ^^;

TBH it would be a little bit naive to think "remove listing price" = prevent undercut.
Undercut always happens, "remove listing price" only remove the visibility and make ppl pay more to buy the undercutter's item.

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Originally Posted by Melondra

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I'm still not sure if this (which I believe is how it was in FFXI) will be the best approach. In one hand, it'd encourage people to actually think about what the value of their item is and the profit they are willing to make. The current system I'm pretty sure people just look at the lowest price and undercut that. At best people might look at the history to see what the item has gone for and adjust based on that.

The more I craft and look at the cost of the materials I've acquired the more I realize how grossly overpriced people sell stuff.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

So buyers need to guess and test the price? What's up if a zero is added when testing the price? Call a GM for restoration? ^^;


Undercut always happens, "remove listing price" only remove the visibility and make ppl pay more to buy the undercutter's item.

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That's the idea would prevent massive deflation of items

WOW also had a great AH system, it uses both are current MB System and a AH system combined, you could either bid on a item and the person with the highest bit at the end of the listing time,usually 24,48,72 hour gets the item for that price or the item can be bough immidetly at the buyout price. So you would actually have the best of both where the seller and the buyer would both greatly benefit this. Im going to be frank here so take it with a grain of salt if you like, A realm Reborn has been out for over a year yet its ecnomy still is highly unstable,aparently there is a big problem here.

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Originally Posted by Melondra

That's the idea would prevent massive deflation of items

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IMO price dropping is good as it prevents GIL deflation.

BTW, I think the auction idea will kill many players on really hot item like DET/CRI materia4,
many players need to camp the MB and test the price for whole day...

I have played other MMORPGS (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to name them, so I won't) with an exchange system similar to Market Boards - but the prices are calculated by supply and demand. Say there are 10 buckets, and 1 milion people want a bucket - the price shoots up. Undercutting will still occur, but prices remain steady.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

IMO price dropping is good as it prevents GIL deflation.

BTW, I think the auction idea will kill many players on really hot item like DET/CRI materia4,
many players need to camp the MB and test the price for whole day...

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You are right it does prevent gill deflation to a extent but there needs to be a balance with inflation and deflation,in this game there is one its just massive deflation.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

IMO price dropping is good as it prevents GIL deflation.

BTW, I think the auction idea will kill many players on really hot item like DET/CRI materia4,
many players need to camp the MB and test the price for whole day...

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You think it's good design to require people to market board camp all day?

Something needs to be done

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Originally Posted by Sibyll

You think it's good design to require people to market board camp all day?

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I think it is a bad design therefore I object auction house like FF11 (bid item)
I support open price, click to buy.