Stoneskin II

So here let me break it down for you since clearly you're going nuts over this.

The forum ask for AOE stoneskin before pull because they got tired of single casting stoneskin over and over again.

They could of made it as a trait to allow stoneskin to be cast outside of battle as AOE, but instead they made a new spell for it.

It's not too far fetched to guess that it will be allow in battle in the future, just like how raise wasn't allow to be used in battle until you reach a certain level.

Now please, just stop.

So you're complaining about a bonus skill you're getting not being useable in battle? That would essentially require them to add a new skill to every class. Leaving it to out-of-battle only situations makes it so it's not really adding an edge over scholar in terms of gameplay. Jesus you should have to past some kind of basic competency test before you can post on the forums.

As a NIN I can't use stealth while in combat, is that also a design flaw?

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Originally Posted by KrissKringle

There is no advantage to having swiftsong in battle. There is an advantage to having stoneskin in battle. Swiftsong was designed to be used outside of battle only, not for pre-engagements like stoneskin 2. And considering they already gave us an aoe version of stoneskin in the past it just doesn't make sense that they would bring it bake the way they did. It's a slap in the face to people who play whm.

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As a WHM main, I don't want AoE stoneskin during battle. Too overpowered.

Pre-enagement only prz.

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Originally Posted by Keisatsu

Because it was never intended for that..at all..maybe in expansion they'll put a trait for this but again..for now..it was NEVER intended for that at all..they've stated this, it's no design flaw..

EDIT: You forgot Swiftsong.

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Also Hide, and believe any NIN that would be a welcomed ability since you wouldn't need to use Suiton to use Sneak or Trick attack.

Quite honestly that's what you have to compare Stoneskin II to, Hide, because Hide is an ability that definitely would be welcomed to use during combat however Suiton becomes hide and in that same sense, Stoneskin II is hide and Stoneskin is Suiton.

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Originally Posted by KrissKringle

There is no advantage to having swiftsong in battle. There is an advantage to having stoneskin in battle. Swiftsong was designed to be used outside of battle only, not for pre-engagements like stoneskin 2. And considering they already gave us an aoe version of stoneskin in the past it just doesn't make sense that they would bring it bake the way they did. It's a slap in the face to people who play whm.

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There is plenty advantage to having Swiftsong in battle (Moving out of AoE's faster for the entire group?), and while there may be an advantage to having an AoE stoneskin in battle, they decided to make it different from 1.0 version and have just this version..THIS version is only use-able outside of combat, like Swiftsong

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Originally Posted by KrissKringle

I don't think you understand what a design flaw is.

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Oh the irony, I could say the same thing about you. Do you understand how broken content would be if you could AoE cast Stoneskin in battle? This isn't version 1.0, they got rid of that - they deleted it. Don't live in the past. This is a brand new game, and things are different now.

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Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang

we had that in XIV 1.0. was called Sacred Prism. Was crazy awesome and sexy.

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Loved it. AoE Stoneskin and Regen. Bard could also use it and Stoneskin everyone or Sanguine Rite (restored MP on being hit) sure it lacked the BLM trait that made it where spells wouldn't be interrupted but was still useful as a support.

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Originally Posted by RegnumMagik

So here let me break it down for you since clearly you're going nuts over this.

The forum ask for AOE stoneskin before pull because they got tired of single casting stoneskin over and over again.

They could of made it as a trait to allow stoneskin to be cast outside of battle as AOE, but instead they made a new spell for it.

It's not too far fetched to guess that it will be allow in battle in the future, just like how raise wasn't allow to be used in battle until you reach a certain level.

Now please, just stop.

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You make an awful lot of assumptions. Please discontinue your rant.

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Originally Posted by KrissKringle

You make an awful lot of assumptions. Please discontinue your rant.

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I made basically one assumption, the other ones are my supporting factors. Now, how is this a rant? I'm simply helping.

Now I understand who the real troll is.