Not all of the new zones will be for 50-60 content. See below.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
Why not have a new character start in Ishgard during its lockdown, and play out story up until it meets with 3.0? There's nothing that says that a new character starting in Ishgard has to be chronologically linked to 3.0 immediately upon character creation.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh
Burning Crusade: New races, new cities, NEW LEVELING ZONES... oh, did you forget about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by silentwindfr
Cataclysm: Well, they changed EVERYTHING, but guess what else they added? New races, new cities, NEW LEVELING ZONES. Apparently you forgot about that too.
Mists of Panderia: New race, new city, new leveling zones.
So basically, you're absolutely wrong. 3 of their 5 expansions had new LOW LEVEL zones in which their new races could level up.
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11-07-2014, 03:15 AMTheRogueX
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11-07-2014, 03:32 AMSylveWell, your first mistake was comparing XIV to WoW.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRogueX
The fundamental difference between XIV and WoW is that each time a new class is released, existing players MUST, no exceptions, create a brand new character to play it on.
The new 'leveling zones' you refer to are the 1 - 10/20 tutorial zones. Designed to guide a brand new player through the beginning of the game.
That tutorial is handled by the Active Help system here in XIV.
Whenever WoW releases a new race, that race is forced to have its own starter zones, as WoW has a Race=City system.
Since each race beyond the original vanilla ones needed a "reason" to be part of the Horde or Alliance, they need to also have a 'storyline' which introduces them to their respective factions.
We here in XIV do not discriminate by race. There a plenty of Ishgardians outside of Ishgard.
Our player characters are "From a distant land".
As with the ROG and NIN, the story for them is independent (i will NOT spoil it, but any who has done it will know what i mean by this) to the Main Story, despite the obvious connection with certain characters who appear late in the Main Story.
It's my guess that the DRK will be introduced in such a way that is as independent of the main story as ROG/NIN managed to be. And i can think of a few ways they might accomplish that. -
11-07-2014, 03:40 AMFelis
Ishgard is also on a cliff. The bridge to central highlands is the only way.
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http://chrysaliswiki.wdfiles.com/loc...rthas_ff14.jpgNew leveling zones for lv50+ players, so you don't need to kill lv 49 enemies with level 55Quote:
Originally Posted by Intaki
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11-13-2014, 04:42 AMTerinCompletely, 100% wrong; EVERY expansion for WoW, up until now, has included new low-level content, as well. In TBC, it was 1-20 starter-areas, in Wrath it was the new Death Knight starter-area, Cataclysm completely revamped the world and questing-experience, and Pandaria added a brand new starter-area, as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentwindfr
Everyone already gets the Main Scenario quest to visit all three cities, that could simply be the point that you're told that Ishgard is no longer safe for adventurers, or that the southern nations need aid. It wouldn't really affect much of anything, other than needing a zone or two dedicated to lower-level questing, before sending you back to the 2.0 content. -
11-13-2014, 04:45 AMMorningstar1337I'm pretty sure that the new zones will have low, mid and High level mobs, somethign ain to Central Shroud and the areas where the beast tribes areQuote:
Originally Posted by Terin
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11-13-2014, 05:07 AMTiggyFFXIV has a much tighter story line experience from level 1 to 50. Specifically Ishgard is blocked off and the main story for each town has to introduce you to the Scions. Even if they did add a new starting area they would somehow have to reconcile that it didn't exist during that story. This isn't WoW where story elements were practically plug and play. Square strives for good lore and continuity. That must be taken into account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terin
*edit* saw this on reddit and thought it was relevant. An interview with Yoshi-p by Massively. http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/11...rs-and-post-f/
In it they say...
So for the same reason I don't think a new starter city will happen.Quote:
Is there a reason why new players cannot start as a Rogue? Will this restriction be changed in the future as new classes and jobs become available?
Final Fantasy XIV places a heavy emphasis on the story, and with the addition of new elements such as this, we would've had to change a lot of the introduction sequences, so we decided that it would not be available right from the start.
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11-15-2014, 01:29 AMTerin
Well, like I said, it isn't a deal-breaker either way, I would just personally prefer a new starter area, just to be able to have a *TOTALLY* new experience to start out with; new Race, new Job, and new City-State. Even if it was only unique until lvl 15 or so, when you get sent to the other areas, I just like having a totally new experience.
If not, though, I'll be fine with that too. It'd just be nice to know sooner than later, as I'm already intended to start a separate character to be my Dark Knight. If there's no new starter-area, I'll just create something else and use the Fantasia potion once the new Race is available, but if there's a new low-level area, I'd rather wait on that.
Especially since it's one of two things that Fantasia doesn't affect; your City-State, and your starting Class (neither of which seems terribly relevant, but I'm obsessive-compulsive, so it's something I keep in mind). -
11-15-2014, 03:24 AMOranKellsBlizzard =/= square enixQuote:
Originally Posted by TheRogueX
lets look at ff11
Rise of Zilart: level cap went from 50 to 75, new zones and areas and endgame content for that level along with several new jobs
Chains of Promathia: some new low level areas, although mainly for the story, only a handful of crazy people went to exp in promyvion;
Aht Uhrgan: whole new continent almost exclusively geared towards level 70+ end game content
Wings of the goddess: honestly this is where things started to get weird, the new allied fronts were nice alternatives to old fashion exp grind but it wasn't exactly for low levels either.
any race can start in any city in this game so you don't need to introduce a new starting city for them here like the elves or the werewolves. Also they've said that whatever Yugiri is will be the next playable race. Pretty sure she didn't come from ishgard. Not to mention that starting in Ishgard COMPLETELY contradicts all the events of the main scenario, Its a safe bet we won't even be able to enter Ishgard till we reach a certain point in the story at which they open their borders and let adventurers in
will there be new lower level areas? maybe. another area of coerthas but i'm not expecting a new starting area, something in the 40s kinda like how coerthas is already, the majority of it will probably be 50+ -
11-15-2014, 04:27 AMNiwashiBut we currently don't have nearly enough content for leveling. People can try parsing out a few sidequests for each class, but that doesn't go far. We have nine classes to level already and enough content to level maybe two or three of them. Beyond that it's nothing but grinding. If even more classes are being added, then we're going to need a lot more leveling content. The new zones (at least some of them) would be a good place to put a lot of that new leveling content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditto
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11-15-2014, 06:54 AMFelisPeople got Ninja to 50 in the first 2.4 week. There is already enough 1-50 leveling content ingame. What we need are 51-60 leveling content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwashi