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    Terin's Avatar
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    Jared Kane
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    Question for the Devs; will Heavensward include a new STARTER City-State?

    This is an important question to me. I already know that I'm going to create a brand-new character to be a Dark Knight (I like my Miqo'te too much to change him, but want something more imposing for a Dark Knight), but I would like to know if there will be a new STARTER City-State or not.

    The reason being, if there *IS*, I will wait on playing up a new character, because I would want to experience that new starting area for myself on a brand-new character. If there *IS NOT*, then I would probably just go ahead and start a character now, so that way I have the EXP-Bonus for the Dark Knight right out of the gate.

    I know it's typically in poor taste to call the Devs out specifically, but if the NA/EU team could somehow get an answer on this for us, that would be absolutely wonderful! I know you guys can't very well give us any information beyond that, but I would simply like to know is a new Starting City-State will be available, as it will greatly impact my own plans for playing
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    Very doubtful. Seeing as your starting state is so directly tied into your introduction to the scions I don't think a new starter city would fit into the narrative at all. Even Ishgard likely won't be available without unlocking it via the story line first.
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    Well, you have to figure the new Race(s) will also be tied to Ishgard, but you'll be able to start one of those fresh, too. Didn't they mention the expansion will include 2 new Classes, too? If so, that would be enough to justify it. I mean, I just can't imagine the Dark Knight fitting in with any of the existing City-States, but hey, who knows!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Well, you have to figure the new Race(s) will also be tied to Ishgard, but you'll be able to start one of those fresh, too. Didn't they mention the expansion will include 2 new Classes, too? If so, that would be enough to justify it. I mean, I just can't imagine the Dark Knight fitting in with any of the existing City-States, but hey, who knows!
    Each of those things individually tied to the new city wouldn't normally be a big deal if not for the heavy linkage of story and lore to gameplay features. The races technically don't need a starting city since starting city was job based anyway, and in order to make the new jobs pickable by a new character they would have to have guilds in the original 3 cities in order to introduce you to the scions properly. Especially considering a new character would start the game, read all this text about Ishguard being closed off even though they are sitting in Ishguard already. It wouldn't really fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Well, you have to figure the new Race(s) will also be tied to Ishgard, but you'll be able to start one of those fresh, too. Didn't they mention the expansion will include 2 new Classes, too? If so, that would be enough to justify it. I mean, I just can't imagine the Dark Knight fitting in with any of the existing City-States, but hey, who knows!
    ROG is not a starter class. You have to be level 10 to be able to get the class, which means you have to have another class. There is now precedent for the possibility of the new classes NOT being starter classes
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    Rogue makes perfect sense to actually be hidden, especially since quite a bit of the story they have involves people not even being sure whether or not they exist. The only reason, canonically, that you know they exist is because of Thancred and the doorman handling a food order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Well, you have to figure the new Race(s) will also be tied to Ishgard, but you'll be able to start one of those fresh, too. Didn't they mention the expansion will include 2 new Classes, too? If so, that would be enough to justify it. I mean, I just can't imagine the Dark Knight fitting in with any of the existing City-States, but hey, who knows!
    The new playable race is thought to be Yugiri's race, who are among the Domans, and so far they have no ties to Ishgard but have an increasing friendship with the three Eorzean Alliance States.

    Dark Knights are also confirmed not to have a starting class, which suggests that there wont be an associated guild (since up to this point only classes have guilds). So whoever ends up teaching us how to be a Dark Knight could station themselves almost anywhere.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    The new playable race is thought to be Yugiri's race, nip.

    Dark Knights are also confirmed not to have a starting class, which suggests that there wont be an associated guild (since up to this point only classes have guilds). So whoever ends up teaching us how to be a Dark Knight could station themselves almost anywhere.
    My wish for the new race is these:


    If it Yugiri's race that we get, she has a somewhat scaled tail, what appear to be horns, and makes comment that she would prefer not to reveal her features because people find her appearance 'disturbing'

    It wouldn't be hard to extrapolate that into people fearing a winged/horned humanoid as a Demon.
    Also, having Flight as a feature in Heavensward feeds my wishes and hopes for a winged race.
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    I agree - it would be weird to have to do all the 2.0 content on a class that wasn't even present for it before even getting to explore the new expansion. I'd hope they wouldn't retcon classes so badly (did they with Rogue\Nin?), but I doubt we will get an answer here at all.
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    No, they didn't retcon Rogue/Ninja AFAIK. It's a new guild established on Limsa as per the events of the main scenario of patch 2.2. And, keeping it coherent, you can't START a ROG char AFAIK.
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