Worthless effort

Yesterday, I had 2 failed infusion on Materia IV.... T_T" my hard earn gil.......

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Originally Posted by Gamex

I think your looking at HA weapons with face value alone just because HA has higher base damage and Auto-Attack doesn't make it better or the best in some situations you have to factor in how the secondary stats of Novus stack up over the course of the fight.

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No secondaries ever outweight the gain of +2 Weapon Damage, Period. You gimp yourself and the LB output of your group by taking a lower weapon. Only reason for taking another than the highest weapon is, if HA weapon has no ACC and you're below cap then.

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Originally Posted by Grotesque

No secondaries ever outweight the gain of +2 Weapon Damage, Period. You gimp yourself and the LB output of your group by taking a lower weapon. Only reason for taking another than the highest weapon is, if HA weapon has no ACC and you're below cap then.

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prove it, and correct me if im wrong but isnt LB damage static?

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Originally Posted by Grotesque

No secondaries ever outweight the gain of +2 Weapon Damage, Period. You gimp yourself and the LB output of your group by taking a lower weapon. Only reason for taking another than the highest weapon is, if HA weapon has no ACC and you're below cap then.

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I got bored and tested something with 2 WD difference, Allagan and weathered. Turns out, weathered only produced about 300 more damage with optimal rotations... Both using the same set. I'll get back to this thread later tonight or tomorrow with a handful of tests to show what I mean.

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Originally Posted by Gamex

prove it, and correct me if im wrong but isnt LB damage static?

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No, LB Dmg is influenced by the partys ilvl of the weapons. Get one in your party using a ilvl1 weapon and watch the LB dropping :)

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Originally Posted by Eardstapa

I got bored and tested something with 2 WD difference, Allagan and weathered. Turns out, weathered only produced about 300 more damage with optimal rotations... Both using the same set. I'll get back to this thread later tonight or tomorrow with a handful of tests to show what I mean.

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Which class, which timeframe, which stat allocation, ... If they share the same allocation you should notice a DPS increase of at least 15 from my eperience over a long timeframe of maybe 3-5 minutes. Increase is an increase IMO, and pushing the groups LB output underlines this fact.

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Originally Posted by Grotesque

No, LB Dmg is influenced by the partys ilvl of the weapons. Get one in your party using a ilvl1 weapon and watch the LB dropping :)

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Isn't it also affected by the stat bonus provided by having a diversity of jobs compared to stacking?
Like if you do Titan HM with 1 PLD, 2 WHM, 5 BLM, you only get VIT, MND and INT stat bonus for the party, while if you have more diversity, you can get VIT, STR, DEX, MND, PIE and INT bonus...

At least it's my belief that having all 6 stat bonuses give better LB damage than if it's only 3 stat bonuses... or maybe it only affects LB generation rate...

I think its generation rate

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Originally Posted by Grotesque

Which class, which timeframe, which stat allocation, ... If they share the same allocation you should notice a DPS increase of at least 15 from my eperience over a long timeframe of maybe 3-5 minutes. Increase is an increase IMO, and pushing the groups LB output underlines this fact.

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So in essence a minimal increase at best and not consistent probably. Advantage to LB yes but not a critical issue, i110 will still get you where you need to go on that front. So to sum up in response to OP's post we can say that Novus is not worthless?

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Originally Posted by Grotesque

Which class, which timeframe, which stat allocation, ... If they share the same allocation you should notice a DPS increase of at least 15 from my eperience over a long timeframe of maybe 3-5 minutes. Increase is an increase IMO, and pushing the groups LB output underlines this fact.

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Solely looking at "DPS" doesn't mean anything when with the proper secondaries, you can match the outgoing damage with 10 less DPS... And each run is around 4 1/2 minutes, so.