Worthless effort

[Kajidourden]

Basically sums up Novus weapons. Even with the optimal setup of materia, they still won't be better than a High allagan weapon, and they require WAY more time and effort to get. Why would anyone ever bother with it?

[ruinedmirage]

Because - if I'm allowed to make a generalization - relic weapons were made for people that don't have the skill or static group required to obtain the HA weapons.

[Blackhalo]

Because - if I'm allowed to make a generalization - relic weapons were made for people that don't have the skill or static group required to obtain the HA weapons.

Or the regular playtime to be part of a static group.
Not being able to take part in 2nd coil because of how I work basically locks me out of ever getting the best or 2nd best gear in the game, with the exception of Novus. Even though it's a mindless crawl to get it, I'm thankfull for it.

Well, locked out would be more correct since we now can get sand/oils/UAT from ST

[subteraneanbird]

It's almost as if the best weapon in the game is...the best? And that other choices are mostly an availability thing? My god, you've cracked the code.

[Kajidourden]

It's almost as if the best weapon in the game is...the best? And that other choices are mostly an availability thing? My god, you've cracked the code.

That would be true if, like the last set of weapons, the next step down was a simple matter of a few Tomestone items. This is much much more for basically the same thing.

[RayneBoemir]

Because - if I'm allowed to make a generalization - relic weapons were made for people that don't have the skill or static group required to obtain the HA weapons.

There are many reasons why someone would not be able to get high allagan for example my FC just recently started doing endgame content we don't have enough members we are short 1. Recently killed Garuda Ex and working on Titan Ex got him to 50% on our first night technically second night but 1st time didn't count since I had atrocious lag. This is my second month playing and I got my atmas swiftly working on Animus because it would be a while before we are able to get high allagan.

[ruinedmirage]

my FC just recently started doing endgame content we don't have enough members we are short 1.

I think this falls under the part of my sentence that mentioned not having a static group......

Or the regular playtime to be part of a static group.
Not being able to take part in 2nd coil because of how I work basically locks me out of ever getting the best or 2nd best gear in the game, with the exception of Novus. )

This might be stretching it, but I'm gonna say if you have the "time" to get a Novus weapon (really, how long did it take?), you have the time to learn a bit of second coil.... but everyone's time not matching up with yours (or vice versa) would also fall under not having a static group to get it done.

[Yukonjack]

Just wait till they add a relic only bonus skill, you will be sorry you never did it.....

[TomTom1968]

Novus is the 2nd best weapon in the Game and as an extra, it is customizable. It was never supposed to be the best one, otherwise people would not want to beat the last turn of the actual Coil. And it's good like that because Novus only needs time and Patience. A lot, I agree lol but there is nothing more to it. I assume it will always be this way. If we get the 3rd incarnation of Coil and the Weapon is Item Level 125, the highest Level of the Relict weapon will be 120 and so on and on.

[givemeraptors]

Novus is the 2nd best weapon in the Game and as an extra, it is customizable. It was never supposed to be the best one, otherwise people would not want to beat the last turn of the actual Coil.

Ehhh, I don't know. How many more people opted for Levi or soldiery weapon instead of farming ATMA? A lot, judging by SE's choice to push the Novus questline back. Frankly at this point I think people would do coil anyway, because you still get superior gear. I don't think the situation is similar anymore to the original Coil/Relic weapon scenario.