Easy Mode Coil Proposal

So.. we want an easy mode to practice (no rewards), so we learn the mechanics to do the normal mode (with rewards)

Hmm.. How about those who are ready to get their toes dipped into Coil, just get into it, and practice, and learn.. it's the same already with normal mode.

No need to make everything easier in this casual game..

If you want to get better at a specific thing, you practice and fail and learn until you succeed. And no, DF doens't count. You want to down everything? PF, FC, LS.

If you still can't beat it down, change group.

Then once you are at ease with one trial/dungeon, you can DF, for the real challenge lol

oh! bad players - good players - there will always be a mix of both.

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Originally Posted by wicked-one

Researchers stated the zenith of a video gamer is at Age of 24, after that, reaction degrades, no matter what ^^

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Wow.. so that means I was a god at 24..

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Originally Posted by Moqi

Still waiting on the increased Echo to try T5 lol. I'm not really interested in the loot or the fights (so far they've been pretty boring), so I like this idea. I'm just playing it for the story.

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Keep waiting. They said they were done. Also, increasing Echo doesn't make it easier to dodge/perform mechanics and it never will. T5 will not suddenly be made easier by increasing echo.

And on that point any "easy" mode of coil would require a drastic reduction not in just the strength of the enemies but in the mechanics you must perform. T1-T4 are already on easy mode due to increased gear quality with solidery gear and the 15% echo buff. There is literally no reason for an easier t1-t4 at this moment. If you're too afraid to try them then it's time to stop being afraid of easy fights. These ones just aren't difficult any more. It's time to give them a try.

However, T5 is a very different story. There are a ton of mechanics that are the problem. Not the damage.

Conflags/Fireballs - People have to pay attention and move quickly. Players must identify when to feed to a conflag or explode on the stack.
Divebombs - Players must know positioning, and how to move correctly all on top of paying close attention to the timing especially during snakes.
Twisters - Players must watch the boss and be aware of the twister cast and move accordingly.
Liquid Hell Spam/Eggs - Players must know how to dodge without spreading liquid hell EVERYWHERE. Tanks must know how to eat mechanics and stretch out the viable time to use the neurolink. Players must know how to do the proper mechanic if the tank neurolink becomes spammed.

If you wanted an easy mode of T5 so that players could practice it when it's easier then you would literally need to remove many of the mechanics listed above that you would actually want/need to practice. Which would make the entire suggestion akin to "please remove mechanics so we can tank and spank it."

I think the issue that some players are having in the game now is that (aside from Atma-novus quest) most of the content that we are being funneled into is group oriented.

I learned Titan EX in about 5 failed runs. 3 were to the heart, and 2 were to the super bombs. The issue wasn't that I was super elite and everyone else was trash, nor was it that I wanted to be carried. It came down to the simple fact that with every PF group up to my win, we had one or two people get caught out of position. And that alone was enough to diminish the spirits of the "alive" players and/or prompt someone who had been playing for hours to just give up and leave the instance.

I love the mechanics of this game, but without a solid static (which is a tug-o-war in and of itself since i have weeks where i get pulled away from the game) it's hard to get anything of note done. Aside from atma farming....which is quite possibly the easiest (but most frustrating) thing to do in the game.

like it was said earlier. there is a 15% echo on top of the higher gear that was not available at the original installment of 1st coil. if you still do not have the dps or health then you better keep working on your gear and/or rotation. more echo is going to make transitions more annoying than it already is if your team is pushing high dps.

as was also stated, if you want to practice and learn mechanics, then make a pf group. stop being lazy, hoping people will cater/carry you. You have the option to set a learning group up or find a group willing to help. dont sit around begging se for things to be easier than it already is when you have no real desire to go out and do it yourself

Didn't read thread but, all I want is a "story mode" coil, I don't care about loot, I just want to know the story and see the cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Xairos

I learned Titan EX in about 5 failed runs. 3 were to the heart, and 2 were to the super bombs. The issue wasn't that I was super elite and everyone else was trash, nor was it that I wanted to be carried. It came down to the simple fact that with every PF group up to my win, we had one or two people get caught out of position. And that alone was enough to diminish the spirits of the "alive" players and/or prompt someone who had been playing for hours to just give up and leave the instance.

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What do you expect from an extreme node battle? A pillow fight? They are labeled as the toughest fights the game for a reason. If every fight for nerfed because someone thought it was tough then we'd have no challenge at all. Besides Titan Ex easy would just be Titan hard. So I'm not sure how this fits here.

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

What do you expect from an extreme node battle? A pillow fight? They are labeled as the toughest fights the game for a reason. If every fight for nerfed because someone thought it was tough then we'd have no challenge at all. Besides Titan Ex easy would just be Titan hard. So I'm not sure how this fits here.

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I used that as an example to show that with the fights in this game, going about story progress or anything of the sort solo is a huge roll of the die because you arent just attempting to expose yourself to the mechanics of a given fight. You are also crossing your fingers to get other players with a similar outlook/temperament as yourself. ex: I can log in, and setup a learning party. I could get 4 people who just logged in as well and are itching to tackle the content. I can also get 2 people who have been trying for hours to down the content. All of that comes into play with how many attempts we go. Which in turn, feeds into the frustration and gauge of if/how that player can even get past said content.

As far as using Titan EX. I feel that Titan EX and T5 were about the same. Most parties get about half way through then just get floored.

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Originally Posted by Moqi

Still waiting on the increased Echo to try T5 lol. I'm not really interested in the loot or the fights (so far they've been pretty boring), so I like this idea. I'm just playing it for the story.

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Hate to disappoint but increased echo won't make the fight any easier or make mechanics disappear. You should probably attempt it now if you haven't already.

Story mode Coil, no reward (remember Gilgamesh ?)

Let everyone enjoy the story, gate loot behind difficulty.


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