Titan is hard because your camera isn't zoomed out, not because of server-side delays

Am I the first one to ask...

Who uses their keyboard for movement?!

I'd say this is the reason you're dying in Titan more than anything. Learn to move with the mouse and leave your hands off WASD. Then your camera-type is pretty much a non-issue, and you instantly run in the direction you point the camera at. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Allyra

I have never had this issue in other MMOs, including both American and Korean ones.

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Of course you wont, beside Tera, there is no MMO that demanding character positioning and much less room for error as this one.

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Originally Posted by Vapes

This made me lol and facepalm.

Granted, I don't have a lot of problem with Titan personally, but I won't use my ability to adapt to a terrible situation to try to justify that situation.

How long are they going to put their head in the sand about the delay issue and not acknowledge it exists?

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seen as the 300ms latency is something they are probably not going to be able to fix they will probably just keep blaming other things.. i learnt how to pre-dodge and force location update (by casting when leaving an aoe) none of this was fixed the second i zoomed out lol.. if anything you cant zoom out far enough on titan

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Originally Posted by Allyra

You are not going to see the person move during a lag spike, or sometimes my fc people will see me run in place instead of actually moving out. The lag means that the servers aren't registering your movements, so the game is obviously not going to display those movements to the others playing the game.

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But i'm not getting any lag spikes and I clearly see them trying to get out of the plumes are landslide or whatever. I see clearly that they are not out of the clear but low and behold, their first response was "man that lag sucks". I'm not saying it doesnt exist because I do see it but people are using it as an excuse when they do get hit way to often when it's actually not the case to save face.

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Originally Posted by Allyra

How can you even know that's true? Just because it doesn't happen to you?

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I can tell when someone is lagging, and when they're just not moving their asses. It's especially obvious when it comes to Landslide and what direction they fly in when they're hit. In my experience, better than half the time a person blames "lag" for being hit, they're just using that as an excuse and hoping no one questions them.

That's not to say people don't lag. Like I said, I've seen it. But it isn't as common as some would like to have us believe.

If someone turned off your screen before a WotL, certain players who are extremely good can still avoid it, but nobody would consider this to be justification for turning off your screen before a WotL. You can avoid this stuff if you're either good enough or you have workarounds, but the game is still at fault for basically showing you a completely out of date view of the battlefield that forces you to need either extreme reflexes or memorize the pattern since you cannot trust your screen to tell you the right thing.

Yea titan is hard when ur fully zooned in but its altest its a challange.

Legacy controls help so much in that fight or if you are used to the standard controls like I am you strafe.
The only times I have ever died to plumes has been in bad positioning where everyone decides its awesome to surround me and i litterally have no escape. Or i mess up on bombs by either running in to soon or to the wrong place. regardless these were my fault. One thing i do notice and explain in titan fights is to the people who think its awesome to turn with their wasd then try to run out which gets them killed. I explain how strafing or legacy makes it easier to run out of danger and not have to waste time spinning their char to then move to the direction they want.


Many caster try taking chances to finish a cast then dying to plumes to it. people admitting they did not see the other plumes close by or bombs because they didnt zoom out. Titan is a joke a real joke when you know his rotations its darn easy and if everyone cooperates into positioning, plumes is nothing of a problem. It easy to blame lag or latency when many people have beaten titan.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

So you're telling me that I'm being willfully ignorant because i don't suffer from lag issues that prevents me from beating Titan? (3rd relic in progress btw.)

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I have two relics too, that is completely irrelevant. The point is because it doesn't happen to YOU, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It seems east-coast friends aren't having this issue, but those on the west coast/EU are.

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Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

Yeah, I've been in groups where someone in the party gets hit by landslide and automatically they bust out "Man I was totally out of that" when me and other people noticed that in fact they moved to late. With that said, I don't doubt some people have lag issues but people blaming the lag when they clearly messed up is getting out of hand.

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You do realize that maybe on their screen they moved and then the server has to update and it shows them still in and running at the wrong moment? It still lends evidence of server lag. Ive seen cases in AK where someone was purely running all the time and still got hit, thier char was rubberbanding before our eyes.

So yes, there is an issue. Im sorry, its just an elephant in the room. But im glad you can get through it all with no issues. I however KNOW that people are having legit probs.